Bachelor 19 - Chris Soules - FD- LCD - FRC - F1/2/3 - *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

Litta123 wrote:

Lucas15 wrote:***snipped***
On Sean's season Catherine was able to say she "wasn't nervous because she trusted Sean", but "she was excited" about the prospects of a proposal - which suggests that Sean told her she was F1. In fact, for anyone who happens to have followed the dialog on their LCD, we could actually hear Sean clue her in that she was F1. But somehow I don't think that Chris did something like this on this season; I'm not sure why I feel like he didn't but I just think he held that close to his vest - maybe only because they gave us what Sean said and haven't given us anything similar that Chris has said - yet.

To be fair we only got what Sean said on the last episode of the season and we have yet to see the last episode of THIS season. From some past seasons we've seen that all the suspense and build-up to create viewer uncertainty about the final choice climaxes with the fantasy date RC where it's down to just two. The last episode (MTP and LCD) sometimes is, IMHO, incredibly lopsided and makes the final choice totally obvious. For example, on Brad 2 he was totally shut down towards Chantal on the LCD. And on Sean's season he was totally shut down to Lindsay - he barely touched her on their date but was all over Catherine. I guess by that time the show feels they have already got you watching and there's little need for more suspense so they instead give you reasons to see why the choice made was made.

A little OT, but Sean disclosed in his book that he was granted time with Catherine off camera the night before the FRC, regarding needing/wanting a wife that could challenge him in his faith. He needed to know if Catherine was able and willing to be this kind of woman. It was a rare in moment in the bach world. Sean had to promise that he would give Catherine no indication of his final decision. But, come on, woman's intuition...I'm guessing Catherine sensed a proposal was coming.

Sorry for the interruption...back to this season.

Last fall, when Cat was speaking at a luncheon, she said that when Sean came to her room, she just KNEW he was going to dump her! But after the talk, she felt very hopeful.

Question: Have they ever shown the F2 leaving in the preview before? Don't they usually put scenes from when the girls are going to the FRC versus shots of the F2 leaving in the limo after being let go?

True San..voice of reason!

Litta123 wrote:...snipped

A little OT, but Sean disclosed in his book that he was granted time with Catherine off camera the night before the FRC, regarding needing/wanting a wife that could challenge him in his faith. He needed to know if Catherine was able and willing to be this kind of woman. It was a rare in moment in the bach world. Sean had to promise that he would give Catherine no indication of his final decision. But, come on, woman's intuition...I'm guessing Catherine sensed a proposal was coming.

Sorry for the interruption...back to this season.

This is what I think Chris did in the s/cap of him talking to Becca. I can't find the s/cap right now, but I wondered if the top that she was wearing is the same as her FRC dress and if Chris wanted a few minutes with her before he left for the FRC.

When did Becca find out about her GGM passing? And when did Chris find out?

sanlee088 wrote:Question: Have they ever shown the F2 leaving in the preview before? Don't they usually put scenes from when the girls are going to the FRC versus shots of the F2 leaving in the limo after being let go?

I don't recall seeing previews of F2 leaving; it would be counter productive to the strategy of keeping the ending a secret - IF it could be identified as F2 leaving anyway.

I may well be wrong about this but I think there's at least some evidence this season that the shot of Becca in a limo is not of her going to the FRC but rather of her leaving from the FRC. The primary reason I say that is she's being driven east but the FRC location is west of where she (and Whitney) stayed the previous night. Now it could be that there's a section of that trip that goes go east and then goes back to west and they just happened to take that image in that moment. But if this is Becca and she is leaving I'd guess they were betting that no one would notice how you can tell the direction of travel from the direction of the light source and everyone would think she's being taken to the FRC.

GuardianAngel wrote:***snipped***
This is what I think Chris did in the s/cap of him talking to Becca. I can't find the s/cap right now, but I wondered if the top that she was wearing is the same as her FRC dress and if Chris wanted a few minutes with her before he left for the FRC.

This one, GA? If so, different outfit than her FRC dress.

GA - you meant this SC? - I believe it is The Dress.

Lucas15 wrote:

sanlee088 wrote:Question: Have they ever shown the F2 leaving in the preview before? Don't they usually put scenes from when the girls are going to the FRC versus shots of the F2 leaving in the limo after being let go?

I don't recall seeing previews of F2 leaving; it would be counter productive to the strategy of keeping the ending a secret - IF it could be identified as F2 leaving anyway.

I may well be wrong about this but I think there's at least some evidence this season that the shot of Becca in a limo is not of her going to the FRC but rather of her leaving from the FRC. The primary reason I say that is she's being driven east but the FRC location is west of where she (and Whitney) stayed the previous night. Now it could be that there's a section of that trip that goes go east and then goes back to west and they just happened to take that image in that moment. But if this is Becca and she is leaving I'd guess they were betting that no one would notice how you can tell the direction of travel from the direction of the light source and everyone would think she's being taken to the FRC.

My only qualifier on this, Lucas, is the drive into Chris's family's property is south. It is lined with trees. There is one cap with Becca having some sunlight on her face where you can see a tree through the window...so possibly the arrival shot.

It still puts Becca as the first to arrive, imo.

My does she remind me of the younger Priscilla Presley. Dame ! Just so gorgeous!

Jolena wrote:My does she remind me of the younger Priscilla Presley. Dame ! Just so gorgeous!

I posted the comparison photos on 3/3 in the CS/Becca fan forum thread. if you get a chance you will see how right we are. Another poster suggested Lisa Marie but I see a closer resemblance to PP myself.

I think becca going first was because of her grandma passing and needing to catch a plane. Not because she was actual F2. Don't know how all the variables play out but becca arrives first but there is the magic of kaboom and firsts happening so it doesnt dissuade from thinking becca is F2 because she arrives first.