Andi Dorfman - The Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - #2

Sprite wrote:

atem wrote:There isn't anything to hear from the interview to me.  Waste of time.  They broke up.  Happens every dang day.

I'm just watching to see if she has become a better actress...

I think Andi has a hard, direct approach when speaking but I think there is true heartfelt emotion behind that shell that I am hoping to see that part of Andi come through.

Yeah, I agree. I do think that she was becoming a softer person when with Josh. So I do think that being in a loving relationship changes you for the better. Had she stayed with him, we would have seen even more growth.

eliza3 wrote:I think Andi has a hard, direct approach when speaking but I think there is true heartfelt emotion behind that shell that I am hoping to see that part of Andi come through.

Totally agree! Unfortunately, even if she is being honest and genuine in this interview many won't buy it and will say she's acting. She won't be able to win either way.

Laudergirl wrote:

eliza3 wrote:I think Andi has a hard, direct approach when speaking but I think there is true heartfelt emotion behind that shell that I am hoping to see that part of Andi come through.

Totally agree! Unfortunately, even if she is being honest and genuine in this interview many won't buy it and will say she's acting. She won't be able to win either way.

IA unfortunately the Red Carpet acting did her in for many viewers. Her behaviour can be justified till the cows come home, but the bottom line is she lied through her teeth in a convincing way. She has a long way to go before she can repair her image. Before she tries to win the approval of the general public, she needs to look at herself, be honest with herself and stop acting the way she thinks everyone wants her to act.

She needs to figure out what makes her happy and spend her days focusing on that, rather than focusing on what's going to make her famous. IMO

It's been over 1 yr since she filmed JPG's season. What has she accomplished. Comparing to all the other ett's who all went back to work and got into a normal routine. Even Emily who didn't work, started blogging and selling jewellery and was involved in some charities.

GuardianAngel wrote:

Laudergirl wrote:

eliza3 wrote:I think Andi has a hard, direct approach when speaking but I think there is true heartfelt emotion behind that shell that I am hoping to see that part of Andi come through.

Totally agree! Unfortunately, even if she is being honest and genuine in this interview many won't buy it and will say she's acting. She won't be able to win either way.

IA unfortunately the Red Carpet acting did her in for many viewers. Her behaviour can be justified till the cows come home, but the bottom line is she lied through her teeth in a convincing way. She has a long way to go before she can repair her image. Before she tries to win the approval of the general public, she needs to look at herself, be honest with herself and stop acting the way she thinks everyone wants her to act.

She needs to figure out what makes her happy and spend her days focusing on that, rather than focusing on what's going to make her famous. IMO

It's been over 1 yr since she filmed JPG's season. What has she accomplished. Comparing to all the other ett's who all went back to work and got into a normal routine. Even Emily who didn't work, started blogging and selling jewellery and was involved in some charities.

Emily also had her own place, pets and an active child. Even if she had help, it did not appear as if she was floating aimlessly. 
Having a focus of your own and daily goals are important. The only focus I have seen in the last year is travel, eating out and shopping. That's a lot of fun, but gets old real fast.

I just watched the red carpet interview again. While Andi did talk most of the time, Josh also talked about wanting to calm down and spend time together when asked about the wedding. So she isn't the only one the deceived people but she seems to be the only one who is getting called out for it.

eliza3 wrote:I just watched the red carpet interview again.  While Andi did talk most of the time, Josh also talked about wanting to calm down and spend time together when asked about the wedding.   So she isn't the only one the deceived people but she seems to be the only one who is getting called out for it.

Exactly, I doubt Andi dragged Josh out with a collar to the red carpet event. He rode in the same car as she did, took a picture of the event and stood by her side as her fiancé and answered questions in his role as a fiancé. So they are both culpable, just that Andi was probably more overt about it. Even Tenley said in a radio interview I believe that Josh was asking her where is his "fiancé" and this was off camera. If Josh was so concerned about not deceiving the public, he would have stayed home. That way, seeing Andi on the red carpet alone would have spiked rumors of the end of the relationship. He is just to blame. We speak not only by what we say but what we do, and what we don't do.

Josh has a General Discussion thread as well where conversations can take place there if anyone wants to discuss further.

eliza3 wrote:I just watched the red carpet interview again.  While Andi did talk most of the time, Josh also talked about wanting to calm down and spend time together when asked about the wedding.   So she isn't the only one the deceived people but she seems to be the only one who is getting called out for it.

Maybe it is because Andi has terrible history with Eric, JPG and Nick.

I think he is at fault too but from what I read in blogs and magz people are blaming Andi. Lets hope for her sake her interview does not do worse damage.

Neither is completely innocent in the whole thing, both have done wrong.  But for me, there are a couple of reasons I tend to put the fault more on her.  The two main ones would be: 1.  She was the lead and repeat, so she knows how TPTB work.  It appears as if she willingly went along with dishing out and acting however and whatever they wanted.  And no, that's not all because it's contractual.  There are times she could've said no, other's in the past have.  2.  As others have mentioned many times, how she handles situations, rubs some people, me included, the wrong way.  I don't like how she has to make others look bad to make herself look good.   

I don't hate her by any means, I don't hate, anyone.  I dislike some people and/or their actions more than others.  So for the reasons mentioned, as well as others, she won't make my list of most liked bach/ette contestants from the show.  But I do hope she figures out who she is, what she wants to do, what she wants out of life, etc.  and after much personal discovery finds that someone that she wants to spend forever with.  She deserves happiness, just like we all do.

StacyNor wrote:

eliza3 wrote:I just watched the red carpet interview again.  While Andi did talk most of the time, Josh also talked about wanting to calm down and spend time together when asked about the wedding.   So she isn't the only one the deceived people but she seems to be the only one who is getting called out for it.

Maybe it is because Andi has terrible history with Eric, JPG and Nick.

I think he is at fault too but from what I read in blogs and magz people are blaming Andi. Lets hope for her sake her interview does not do worse damage.

Andi can't win with some people no matter what she does.  This could be the best interview and some people will slam  her for it anyway.

People say Andi is a daddy's girl but they seem to forget Josh is a mama's boy.[/quote]