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Post by Diana Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:12 pm

Alanna wrote:IA with you about A/R vs. JPash. A/R is a storybook fairytale romance. JPash is a real life fairytale romance.
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Post by emusha Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:12 pm

bilolo wrote:Emusha tu parles français ?

ahhh non, je ne parle francias! haha Smiley I WISH!!
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Post by cfck2222 Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:26 pm

Wellllll, I usually skip Bachelor seasons and watch the B'ette seasons because I'm more about having a pick of attractive guys. This'll be the 1st B'ette season that I've watched where I picked out the F1 and saw the love story from early on. It's fun! :awesome:

I've liked the presentation of the Ashley/JP love story so far better than the other lead-F1 relationship presentations because we've gotten chemistry but we've also gotten a glimpse of honest, heartfelt conversations where they acknowledge this process, how hard it is, and how that can make even the obvious F1 feel. Not that the other lead-F1 couples didn't have those conversations on or after the show (I'm sure Ali and Roberto did at some point), but we were actually shown those conversations for once which I appreciated. It's felt healthier and more realistic than anything I've ever seen on this show and it surprised the dickens out of me that they actually showed it!

That IMO is actually a positive lesson for the editors to take out of this season. They did screw up the edit early with the Bentley arc and turned off a lot of people but at least they handled the Ashley/JP interactions pretty well and showed us a viable, real couple.

I wish Ashley and JP the best after the show! I feel like I've seen why 2 imperfectly charming people are right for each other and I hope the show keeps showing us that and they're able to carry that forward together.
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Post by emusha Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:29 pm

Seriously cfck...do you write for a living? cos if you don't you should!! haha you're very articulate in framing your thoughts! :D
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Post by cfck2222 Fri Jul 22, 2011 4:46 pm

emusha wrote:Seriously cfck...do you write for a living? cos if you don't you should!! haha you're very articulate in framing your thoughts! :D
Ha, thank you, you're making me blush! You're no slouch in the writing and insight department yourself, emusha and you always keep an even keel. It's made me feel better that this season I've been seeing the same things you are! Could my radar finally be improving? :Woah-hoo:

Seriously we've got some great writers here on this site - snark, wit, analysis, all kinds of insight, and most of all, heart. What a fun place to be and thanks again to Love_Me and San for that for you


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Post by Guest Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:06 pm

Finally had a minute to read all of RS and his reader email responses.
He said that Ashley and JP have been spendings their weekends together.
Maybe RS may has good source in NYC? His grandmother lives in NYC.

Q: is ashley back in school? do you know what ashley is doing this summer?

RS: "She had a few credits to finish up this summer. Finishing up her credits. And watching the show.
And spending weekends with JP. Sorry, I don’t have access to her day planner"

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Post by Love_Me Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:40 pm

I think RS' source might be someone from Ashley or JP's camp. JMO
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Post by emusha Fri Jul 22, 2011 5:54 pm

cfck2222 wrote:
emusha wrote:Seriously cfck...do you write for a living? cos if you don't you should!! haha you're very articulate in framing your thoughts! :D
Ha, thank you, you're making me blush! You're no slouch in the writing and insight department yourself, emusha and you always keep an even keel. It's made me feel better that this season I've been seeing the same things you are! Could my radar finally be improving? :Woah-hoo:

Seriously we've got some great writers here on this site - snark, wit, analysis, all kinds of insight, and most of all, heart. What a fun place to be and thanks again to Love_Me and San for that for you

Awww thanks cfck you're too kind!! though I could barely accept the compliment :shy: but you are so right!! thank yous all around to all the great love story sleuthers here - I love the positive energy and smarts of all of you guys -- great company to be amongst! Rock on rockstars!! rock
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Post by Cecilia Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:08 pm

JP and Ashley are my favorite couple too! First time on the Bachelorette since Trista and Ryan that I cared and the bette picked the one I wanted.

I love two things. I think she always called JP "cute" - she says it on multiple dates, and like 5 times at the HTD. Don't recall her ever calling the other guys cute. Second - I love how she said sex was important to making a relationship last in that Philly interview. This seems to insinuate that they are getting along very well intimately and since they are always making out on this show it's another indicator that he is F1.


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Post by JBF Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:23 pm

cfck2222 wrote:Wellllll, I usually skip Bachelor seasons and watch the B'ette seasons because I'm more about having a pick of attractive guys. This'll be the 1st B'ette season that I've watched where I picked out the F1 and saw the love story from early on. It's fun! :awesome:

I've liked the presentation of the Ashley/JP love story so far better than the other lead-F1 relationship presentations because we've gotten chemistry but we've also gotten a glimpse of honest, heartfelt conversations where they acknowledge this process, how hard it is, and how that can make even the obvious F1 feel. Not that the other lead-F1 couples didn't have those conversations on or after the show (I'm sure Ali and Roberto did at some point), but we were actually shown those conversations for once which I appreciated. It's felt healthier and more realistic than anything I've ever seen on this show and it surprised the dickens out of me that they actually showed it!

That IMO is actually a positive lesson for the editors to take out of this season. They did screw up the edit early with the Bentley arc and turned off a lot of people but at least they handled the Ashley/JP interactions pretty well and showed us a viable, real couple.

I wish Ashley and JP the best after the show! I feel like I've seen why 2 imperfectly charming people are right for each other and I hope the show keeps showing us that and they're able to carry that forward together.

The whole point of Bentley was to provide the Heartbreak Story for Ashley and demonstrate that she and JP are on "the same track". I also think her family didn't understand the Bentley drama at the time and needed it shown to them.

I think one reason this season was edited with The Love Story up front was partly for Ashley's family. Hopefully, everything gets settled by FRC... maybe all of the sisterly shoutfest is over within two days and everybody is happy in the end. If not, than this explains why the edit of JP has been flawless, his hometown family very supportive and the strong emphasis on "we" and "us".

Bottom line, Chrystie supports Ashley's decision now. Wonder if she'll be at ATFR?

In addition, we have all of these death/bad break-up stories: Ben, William and Ames losing their fathers, Mickey his mother, West his wife, Lucas having a bitter divorce... No doubt, we will hear about Ashley's ex in the finale. Perhaps Jordan resembles him too much for Chrystie's comfort? Just a wild guess here. No clue how it will play out.
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Post by mnmhughes Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:27 pm

Cecilia wrote:JP and Ashley my favorite couple too! First time on the Bachelorette since Trista and Ryan that I cared and the bette picked the one I wanted.

I love two things. I think she always called JP "cute" - she says it on multiple dates, and like 5 times at the HTD. Don't recall her ever calling the other guys cute. Second - I love how she had sex was important to making a relationship last in that Philly interview. This seems to insinuate that they are getting along very well intimately and since they are always making out on this show it's another indicator that he is F1.

I never doubted that they would "get along very well." giggling
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Post by Guest Fri Jul 22, 2011 6:39 pm

Cecilia wrote:JP and Ashley my favorite couple too! First time on the Bachelorette since Trista and Ryan that I cared and the bette picked the one I wanted.

I love two things. I think she always called JP "cute" - she says it on multiple dates, and like 5 times at the HTD. Don't recall her ever calling the other guys cute. Second - I love how she said sex was important to making a relationship last in that Philly interview. This seems to insinuate that they are getting along very well intimately and since they are always making out on this show it's another indicator that he is F1.

She called him cute when they were putting on their rollerskates and when he fell. It was adorable. Can't wait to count how many times she calls him cute in the next 2 episodes. Another word she's used only with JP is 'smitten.' heartbeat

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