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Post by Aunties_Love Tue Nov 04, 2014 9:58 pm

AllAboutLove wrote:One cannot prove either way. So, implausible as it may seem, implausibility does not cancel out possibility. There is no evidence of April out partying post ATFR/WTA. What is known is that all the girls know who the F1 is (if there is one) and whether Tim is still with her. The likelihood of Trish going out to party until 3am if she is F1 and still with Tim is just as implausible, but possible.

Again, no statement can be categorically made one way or the other. Only speculation. Speculation on my part is based on what is seen/evidenced supported, not on what one thinks may or may not be plausible. The concept of TB in itself, one man with many women and this setup leading to a life-long healthy committed marriage is implausible, but very possible. Again, jmho.
Well, all we know from the tweets, etc is that Tim touched down in Vancouver at around 10am on the Friday, did the taping and was back home in Toronto at 12:03 am on the Saturday...he flew in and out same day. Where as April was spotted having lunch and a spa date till after noon sometime on the Saturday.


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Post by AllAboutLove Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:03 pm

The implausibility of my speculation is not lost on me. I agree it is implausible. As for the evidence of April on the lunch and spa date. Where did this evidence come from? I follow all the bettes that have IG, FB, etc. Just because someone posts something on SM does not mean it is posted in real time, meaning, it can possibly be the day before and posted the following day. Tim's post makes sense since the time he posted it matches flights. The same goes for Kaylynn's post with Trish (where Trish looks to be crying/upset and Kaylynn is consoling her) is posted with a caption of 3am that matches the date of the post, 3am.

Again, no need to discuss implausibilies vs. impossibilies. Just as there is room for looking at the season from both perspectives, (comparing first to current, or just current alone) so too is there room to look at imlausbibilies from both perspectives. I see both sides as implausibile but possible. Jmho Smiley
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Post by Guest Tue Nov 04, 2014 10:09 pm

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sophienette wrote:Auntie, I think  AAL wanted to know how it is so certain?



Sophie  do you have a link that I can watch the show on here in the US? Thank you. ; )

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Post by Aunties_Love Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:01 am

To me, Brad has been over-pushing the April F1 angle.

Brad Smith wrote:At this point, we all just want to see which lovely lady Tim picks! (We all know it’s AB, right?)

To me, he's pushing it too much for it to actually be the F1. He is still the "company man" as he's working for CityTV and that is the company that is showing and in cahoots with producing the show in the beginning.


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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:09 am

So... now we have THREE April tweets that Tim on his personal account has favorited and again, zero for anyone else or for Trish (so this is not about balance where he is favoriting both Trish and April on his public twitter).

1-3 = Less to most recent (today)...
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Tara-Dawn @TaraDawnOnChay  ·  Oct 15
So glad April got another rose on @bachelorCA from @TimWarmels ! #YouGoGirl #makewasagaproud #integrity #keepinitreal
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realitytvobsess @realitytvobsess  ·  Oct 31
CUTEST MOMENT EVER. APRIL AND TIM'S FIRST KISS @BachCanTim @bachelorCA #TEAMAPRIL
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Protea Rose @protea_rose  ·  3h
@TimWarmels If you led April on only to dump her I will lose all respect. If she leaves/wants to leave I hope you fought for her! #BachCan

Tim liking that most recent tweet about leading April on says a lot, imo. Someone is definitely on these forums or thinking alike concerning leading April on and dumping her. Will have to see whether he fought for her and whether it made a difference...
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Post by Aunties_Love Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:49 am

I appreciate you bringing those over, but to be honest, they still mean so little. IMO, it could all be of the producers campaign to cast doubt on Trisha. So far we have more of Trisha in Moorea than April and the little of what we do have for April including the family stuff really doesn't bode well for April. We have nothing else for April past the family stuff so did she actually go home? Me thinks so.


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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Nov 05, 2014 3:57 am

Aunties_Love wrote:I appreciate  you bringing those over, but to be honest, they still mean so little.  IMO, it could all be of the producers campaign to cast doubt on Trisha.  So far we have more of Trisha in Moorea than April and the little of what we do have for April including the family stuff really doesn't bode well for April.  We have nothing else for April past the family stuff so did she actually go home?  Me thinks so.

The average viewer watches the previews and sees April crying, April looking awkward with Tim's mom during MTP. If anything, the average viewer is thinking April is going home based on this drama/awkwardness.

As you stated, what is seen doesn't bode well for April.

The average viewer is not following Tim's personal twitter account and then, after seeing no tweets by him about BachCan looks to see if he has favorited anything relating to one of the F2 girls (and scrolls to see there are 3).

None of my friends that watch this show follow the social media, let alone 2 accounts of Tim. They watch it and have a laugh, cry, what-have-you.

Other than fans or sleuthers, the average viewer is interpreting April going home or leaving (something bad happening) based on what they see on TV. To cast doubt by having Tim favourite tweets relating to only April makes no sense for the average viewer who doesn't even follow BachCan related social media.

A terrible way to cast doubt if that is the case. Better off casting doubt on Trisha by not showing Trisha smiling adorably at Tim on their HTD, or smiling while hugging his mom, or having a bad HTD instead of a very easy one. Compared to April crying, stressing, saying she wants to leave? The average viewer sees April going home and no three favorited tweets by Tim's personal (producer managed) twitter account is going to change their minds on that, imho.
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Post by 4health Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:19 am

So to add to the discussion:
Videos of girls after WTA - Question asked Who will get Tim's last rose?

Rileigh - Trish
April Borg - ? torn
Kaylynn - first thought April but sense watching it back she thinks Trisha
Lisa - First thinks neither but after watching Trisha
Sonia - Trisha
Dom - Trisha
Jenny - 1st April but sense watching Trisha
Christine - beginning torn but now says Trisha
Alison - April
Martha - April
Sachelle - Trisha she brings the fun side out of Tim but thinks the distance might be an issue


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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:30 am

^^ Thanks for posting that 4health. Much appreciated

It only reaffirms that Tim favoriting just 3 tweets of April and a blog by Brad is not going to be enough to cast doubt that Trish is anything other than F1 for general viewers who watch the show and don't follow SM/blogs. Even the edit with Trish has been smooth sailing and previews show this continues while with April things have been less fun and more emotional or as Tim said in his blog 'an emotional rollercoaster'. The girls mostly choosing Trish only supports Trish as F1 and what they have watched on the show. Again, whether the girls knew who the F1 was when they stated this I cannot say. But the ATFR was taped with them there so it is entirely possible they knew and may mislead or they knew and wanted to further support F1 as Trish. Will be an exciting end to be sure... I am looking forward to it. hehe
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Post by Aunties_Love Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:49 am

AllAboutLove wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:I appreciate  you bringing those over, but to be honest, they still mean so little.  IMO, it could all be of the producers campaign to cast doubt on Trisha.  So far we have more of Trisha in Moorea than April and the little of what we do have for April including the family stuff really doesn't bode well for April.  We have nothing else for April past the family stuff so did she actually go home?  Me thinks so.

The average viewer watches the previews and sees April crying, April looking awkward with Tim's mom during MTP. If anything, the average viewer is thinking April is going home based on this drama/awkwardness.

As you stated, what is seen doesn't bode well for April.

The average viewer is not following Tim's personal twitter account and then, after seeing no tweets by him about BachCan looks to see if he has favorited anything relating to one of the F2 girls (and scrolls to see there are 3).

None of my friends that watch this show follow the social media, let alone 2 accounts of Tim. They watch it and have a laugh, cry, what-have-you.

Other than fans or sleuthers, the average viewer is interpreting April going home or leaving (something bad happening) based on what they see on TV. To cast doubt by having Tim favourite tweets relating to only April makes no sense for the average viewer who doesn't even follow BachCan related social media.

A terrible way to cast doubt if that is the case. Better off casting doubt on Trisha by not showing Trisha smiling adorably at Tim on their HTD, or smiling while hugging his mom, or having a bad HTD instead of a very easy one. Compared to April crying, stressing, saying she wants to leave? The average viewer sees April going home and no three favorited tweets by Tim's personal (producer managed) twitter account is going to change their minds on that, imho.
To be honest with you...most viewers that aren't sleuthers feel that April will be the F1. Look at the blogs out there, especially Brad's(which most pay attention to), articles and other sm all point to April as F1. The general viewing and tweets as well as the chat window on the bachelor canada site are overwhelmingly for April. To me, that means that the editor's campaign of geting the heat off of trisha as they did with Bianka is working. Mosst viewers watching the show really feel that April is the F1 and is locked down. Again, looking at the suptble hints, it truely is leaning into Trisha's direction without a doubt.


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Post by AllAboutLove Wed Nov 05, 2014 4:51 am

It is getting redundant but general/average viewers don't read blogs neither do they follow Social Media or even the BachCan blogs, webpage, FB, etc. Fans may, but not general viewers. None of my friends do anything to participate/interact with anything BachCan or read the blogs, they just watch the show and they all think that it is Trish=F1, especially since the Italy date.

General/average viewers, imo = just watch what is on the television each week and that is it.


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Insiders/Expert sleuthers > Sleuthers > Superfans > Fans > General/average viewers > Watch-if-nothing-else-on-viewers > Watch-to-hate-viewers
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Post by 4health Wed Nov 05, 2014 5:00 am

AllAboutLove wrote:^^ Thanks for posting that 4health. Much appreciated

It only reaffirms that Tim favoriting just 3 tweets of April and a blog by Brad is not going to be enough to cast doubt that Trish is anything other than F1 for general viewers who watch the show and don't follow SM/blogs. Even the edit with Trish has been smooth sailing and previews show this continues while with April things have been less fun and more emotional or as Tim said in his blog 'an emotional rollercoaster'. The girls mostly choosing Trish only supports Trish as F1 and what they have watched on the show. Again, whether the girls knew who the F1 was when they stated this I cannot say. But the ATFR was taped with them there so it is entirely possible they knew and may mislead or they knew and wanted to further support F1 as Trish. Will be an exciting end to be sure... I am looking forward to it. hehe

AAL I know you have mentioned these things like the favorited tweets on Tim's personal account you are right the general public wont' know the difference.....even I who does twitter would never put all my apples in the basket just because of those tweets (personal account/bachelor account I truly don't think shows anything special JMO) ....as for Brad's blog will he is the company man and though the company (Bachcan) probably looks over his blog they wouldn't care who he chooses but glad that his choice go in line with their edit so no skin off their nose and they let him fly with it or the do tell him what to write.....I wouldn't bet my money on what Brad Smith says in his blog but that is just me.

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