Bachelor Canada - Season 2 - *Sleuthing - *Spoilers* - *Speculation* - Discussion #2

AllAboutLove wrote:It is getting redundant but general/average viewers don't read blogs neither do they follow Social Media or even the BachCan blogs, webpage, FB, etc. Fans may, but not general viewers. None of my friends do anything to participate/interact with anything BachCan or read the blogs, they just watch the show and they all think that it is Trish=F1, especially since the Italy date.

General/average viewers, imo = just watch what is on the television each week and that is it.


Imo...
Insiders/Expert sleuthers > Sleuthers > Superfans > Fans > General/average viewers > Watch-if-nothing-else-on-viewers > Watch-to-hate-viewers

Sorry, but I am going to disagree with you again, The average viewers ABSOLUTELY pay attention to Brad's blogs and articles out there that are in the general public for all to read. The average viewer is also watching the show on the website. It is overwhelming in favor of April as F1 so for it to be said that they aren't getting it, is not correct. IMO, all you have to do is to pay attention to the website chat on episode night to see where the average viewer is thinking. I am not just talking about the blogs. There are so many generalized articles out there that have basically said that it's done and April will be the F1. Because of all of that combined, they are more into it than you are giving them credit I believe.

Aunties_Love wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:I appreciate  you bringing those over, but to be honest, they still mean so little.  IMO, it could all be of the producers campaign to cast doubt on Trisha.  So far we have more of Trisha in Moorea than April and the little of what we do have for April including the family stuff really doesn't bode well for April.  We have nothing else for April past the family stuff so did she actually go home?  Me thinks so.

The average viewer watches the previews and sees April crying, April looking awkward with Tim's mom during MTP. If anything, the average viewer is thinking April is going home based on this drama/awkwardness.

As you stated, what is seen doesn't bode well for April.

The average viewer is not following Tim's personal twitter account and then, after seeing no tweets by him about BachCan looks to see if he has favorited anything relating to one of the F2 girls (and scrolls to see there are 3).

None of my friends that watch this show follow the social media, let alone 2 accounts of Tim. They watch it and have a laugh, cry, what-have-you.

Other than fans or sleuthers, the average viewer is interpreting April going home or leaving (something bad happening) based on what they see on TV. To cast doubt by having Tim favourite tweets relating to only April makes no sense for the average viewer who doesn't even follow BachCan related social media.

A terrible way to cast doubt if that is the case. Better off casting doubt on Trisha by not showing Trisha smiling adorably at Tim on their HTD, or smiling while hugging his mom, or having a bad HTD instead of a very easy one. Compared to April crying, stressing, saying she wants to leave? The average viewer sees April going home and no three favorited tweets by Tim's personal (producer managed) twitter account is going to change their minds on that, imho.

To be honest with you...most viewers that aren't sleuthers feel that April will be the F1.  Look at the blogs out there, especially Brad's(which most pay attention to), articles and other sm all point to April as F1.  The general viewing and tweets as well as the chat window on the bachelor canada site are overwhelmingly for April.  To me, that means that the editor's campaign of geting the heat off of trisha as they did with Bianka is working.  Mosst viewers watching the show really feel that April is the F1 and is locked down.  Again, looking at the suptble hints, it truely is leaning into Trisha's direction without a  doubt.

I agree Auntie....I have read for the past weeks how Tim & April have this great love and everyone sees it that is here, on SM, in anyone and everyone blogs. It is hard to tell what the average viewer is thinking ..... as for our own personal viewership of friends just might be better words to say and not a blanket of everyone kind of words. That is why I stay over in my happy world (Trisha's thread) because certain words are used in sleuthing, discussion like ALL, ALWAYS, EVERYONE. As for twitter or SM I would have to beg the differ on the general viewership isn't aware or looking at SM.....the general audience is on SM and Tim's life will change because of it.

4health wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

AllAboutLove wrote:

The average viewer watches the previews and sees April crying, April looking awkward with Tim's mom during MTP. If anything, the average viewer is thinking April is going home based on this drama/awkwardness.

As you stated, what is seen doesn't bode well for April.

The average viewer is not following Tim's personal twitter account and then, after seeing no tweets by him about BachCan looks to see if he has favorited anything relating to one of the F2 girls (and scrolls to see there are 3).

None of my friends that watch this show follow the social media, let alone 2 accounts of Tim. They watch it and have a laugh, cry, what-have-you.

Other than fans or sleuthers, the average viewer is interpreting April going home or leaving (something bad happening) based on what they see on TV. To cast doubt by having Tim favourite tweets relating to only April makes no sense for the average viewer who doesn't even follow BachCan related social media.

A terrible way to cast doubt if that is the case. Better off casting doubt on Trisha by not showing Trisha smiling adorably at Tim on their HTD, or smiling while hugging his mom, or having a bad HTD instead of a very easy one. Compared to April crying, stressing, saying she wants to leave? The average viewer sees April going home and no three favorited tweets by Tim's personal (producer managed) twitter account is going to change their minds on that, imho.

To be honest with you...most viewers that aren't sleuthers feel that April will be the F1.  Look at the blogs out there, especially Brad's(which most pay attention to), articles and other sm all point to April as F1.  The general viewing and tweets as well as the chat window on the bachelor canada site are overwhelmingly for April.  To me, that means that the editor's campaign of geting the heat off of trisha as they did with Bianka is working.  Mosst viewers watching the show really feel that April is the F1 and is locked down.  Again, looking at the suptble hints, it truely is leaning into Trisha's direction without a  doubt.

I agree Auntie....I have read for the past weeks how Tim & April have this great love and everyone sees it that is here, on SM, in anyone and everyone blogs.  It is hard to tell what the average viewer is thinking ..... as for our own personal viewership of friends just might be better words to say and not a blanket of everyone kind of words.    That is why I stay over in my happy world (Trisha's thread) because certain words are used in sleuthing, discussion like ALL, ALWAYS, EVERYONE.  As for twitter or SM I would have to beg the differ on the general viewership isn't aware or looking at SM.....the general audience is on SM and Tim's life will change because of it.  

I agree completely. It is actually shocking how you can't go on social media, be it twitter, facebook, internet and newspapers without hearing, seeing something that directly relates to Bachelor Canada. Here in Canada, we do have a lot of outlets for the information so yea, the average viewer definately knows about this show and who will likely be the F1. Heck, just watch the show on the bachcan site to get to see the viewers thoughts and I am sorry but you can't tell me that everyone watching the show on that site are fanatics like us.

Watched Tim's Q&A from this week... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Tim's response to this question is hilarious considering he seemed to wear the same clothes again and again and again!  

Q: If you could change one thing from this journey [on the bachelor] what would it be?
Tim: The amount of clothes I had to lug around.

Tim's answer to this question is really interesting... can't wait to see how it all pans out especially considering how Tim has stated that being TB was the most rewarding experience of his life. Strong words there. But, it could be because he found the love of his life or he learned life-changing lessons (or both).

Q: What advice do you have for the next Bachelor?
Tim: To not be scared of feeling insecure about anything that happens. It is only natural to feel insecure about certain things and what's even better is overcoming those things

AllAboutLove wrote:Watched Tim's Q&A from this week... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Tim's response to this question is hilarious considering he seemed to wear the same clothes again and again and again!      

Q: If you could change one thing from this journey [on the bachelor] what would it be?
Tim: The amount of clothes I had to lug around.

Tim's answer to this question is really interesting... can't wait to see how it all pans out especially considering how Tim has stated that being TB was the most rewarding experience of his life. Strong words there. But, it could be because he found the love of his life or he learned life-changing lessons (or both).

Q: What advice do you have for the next Bachelor?
Tim: To not be scared of feeling insecure about anything that happens. It is only natural to feel insecure about certain things and what's even better is overcoming those things

Well, to me it could be referencing his fear about ending up alone in this process. Now the only one he talked to about that was Trisha. I think that was his big fear coming into this.

AllAboutLove wrote:Watched Tim's Q&A from this week... [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]

Tim's response to this question is hilarious considering he seemed to wear the same clothes again and again and again!      

Q: If you could change one thing from this journey [on the bachelor] what would it be?
Tim: The amount of clothes I had to lug around.

Tim's answer to this question is really interesting... can't wait to see how it all pans out especially considering how Tim has stated that being TB was the most rewarding experience of his life. Strong words there. But, it could be because he found the love of his life or he learned life-changing lessons (or both).

Q: What advice do you have for the next Bachelor?
Tim: To not be scared of feeling insecure about anything that happens. It is only natural to feel insecure about certain things and what's even better is overcoming those things

Well it's obvious to me which girl made him feel insecure pretty much all season ..... and then favoring a tweet about hoping that he fought for her and didn't let her go, ties it in to all my other views on the season.

The viewing audience being divided about who F1 is proof that the producers are doing their job, and all the little things the sleuthers uncovered mean nothing to the average viewer, which is why they really don't care about SM so much as it doesn't really mean diddly squat to them and to the outcome.

^^ I absolutely agree NV. No need for Tim to favourite that tweet at all. There are so many why bother only favouriting the one's relating to April on his non-BachCan personal twitter? Yup, diddly squat is the word right there. The finale is done nearly five months ago. The edit itself is already keeping people in suspense and the viewing audience is nearly 50:50. What will 3 little favorited tweets do to change that? Not much at all, not much at all (but for me, it only confirms what I thought day one, hehe).

Aunties_Love wrote:I appreciate  you bringing those over, but to be honest, they still mean so little.  IMO, it could all be of the producers campaign to cast doubt on Trisha.  So far we have more of Trisha in Moorea than April and the little of what we do have for April including the family stuff really doesn't bode well for April.  We have nothing else for April past the family stuff so did she actually go home?  Me thinks so.

The producers campaigning on a twitter account with 1000 followers? Sorry Auntie, I can see 2 points of views on a lot, but that's stretching it in my opinion...

Even Andi and Josh could SM all they wanted and we all know the US TPTB are a lot more manipulative!

The producers want us to think that April goes home next week, so they're obviously not going to give up any sc's after that.... I think they're smart enough not to do that...

Most of the ladies see a fun side of Tim with Trisha so they say he will end up with her. I hear Tim saying he prefers kind to fun. I just dont see that relationship growth with Trisha, not the begining, not the middle and i am to accept they end up together? Nope. The havent talked about anything meaningful except glazing over her breakup and him telling her about his fears of ending up alone. Wih April, they started with admitting to feeling a spark and wanting to get to know more. The moved to seeing what live could be like on shark date, then came the home date to show her his day to day life . Meeting people he holds dear, telling her about his life and learning a bit about hers, getting to fun stuff in Italy, learning my more about why she is who she is on her hometown, getting her to trust him more. It is there on our screens the building of a relationship with April. That is not to say April wont leave but at least we can see something substantial to believe they tried at a relationship. I camt say the same for Trish. The kissed in the ocean when he was unsure( his words not mine), they kissed and danced in Italy when he wanted to see if there was a connection( his words not mine), he alredy fell for home on her Hometown( i camt explain where or when that happened as i missed it). If Trish ends up being F1 then the producers and the storytelling department failed the viewing audience IMO. And i still believe April is F1

see2love wrote:Most of the ladies see a fun side of Tim with Trisha so they say he will end up with her. I hear Tim saying he prefers kind to fun. I just dont see that relationship growth with Trisha, not the begining, not the middle and i am to accept they end up together? Nope. The havent talked about anything meaningful except glazing over her breakup and him telling her about his fears of ending up alone. Wih April, they started with admitting to feeling a spark and wanting to get to know more. The moved to seeing what live could be like on shark date, then came the home date to show her his day to day life . Meeting people he holds dear, telling her about his life and learning a bit about hers, getting to fun stuff in Italy, learning my more about why she is who she is on her hometown, getting her to trust him more. It is there on our screens the building of a relationship with April. That is not to say April wont leave but at least we can see something substantial to believe they tried at a relationship. I camt say the same for Trish. The kissed in the ocean when he was unsure( his words not mine), they kissed and danced in Italy when he wanted to see if there was a connection( his words not mine), he alredy fell for home on her Hometown( i camt explain where or when that happened as i missed it). If Trish ends up being F1 then the producers and the storytelling department failed the viewing audience IMO. And i still believe April is F1

100% agree ! you can tell tim has fun with april too, if they didnt im sure he would not even bother listening to her. she was willing to swim with the sharks, something which i believe shows that she is up for anything and in fact is fun to hang around. im so sold that april is f1, that i will srsly be so shocked if trish was f1.

Amen see2love Amen!