The Bachelor Australia - Season 2 - Blake Garvey - ATFR - *Spoilers* - Media & Social Media Discussion #2

He sent the letter to Louise after the finale. Lisa said he contacted her after the finale. Looks like he was confused between Lisa or Louise so Lisa turned him down so he ran to Louise and she accepted him..

Can someone send me the link to Chantal interview on kiis

"I feel like I went on this journey to meet Sam" - Lisa

Before it gets deleted... it needs to be reiterated that Louise favourited a tweet posted Oct 1st, that she deserves waay better than Blake.

I am sure she will unfavourite it as soon as she realises. But this is a key part of the narrative since she had already received the letter by then, according to her and Blake's words on the interview. She had also told Lisa that she was not with Blake. Semantics aside, we know she watched the final knowing Blake wanted her (but not knowing Blake wanted Lisa before her). IMHO, "what a web we weave when first we practice to deceive". I hope it works out to be a happy ending for all.


Still favourited by Louise at the time of this post in this thread https://twitter.com/MaeganStewart_/status/517449840205111296

Can't forget this now-deleted Oct 9 post by Blake... implying he is not with Louise. He deleted this tweet once the paid Woman's Day article was announced. Everyone suspected Louise because she wasn't responding to confirm/deny anything and so Zoe was doing the asking...

AllAboutLove wrote:Before it gets deleted... it needs to be reiterated that Louise favourited a tweet posted Oct 1st, that she deserves waay better than Blake.

I am sure she will unfavourite it as soon as she realises. But this is a key part of the narrative since she had already received the letter by then, according to her and Blake's words on the interview. She had also told Lisa that she was not with Blake. Semantics aside, we know she watched the final knowing Blake wanted her (but not knowing Blake wanted Lisa before her). IMHO, "what a web we weave when first we practice to deceive". I hope it works out to be a happy ending for all.


Still favourited by Louise at the time of this post in this thread https://twitter.com/MaeganStewart_/status/517449840205111296

It is really sad that Louise has been under Blake's spell, maybe it is love. Love is blind...it can intoxicate a person and delusion her/him that he/she is not able to see the truth. Louise wanted so much to win that she just turned a deaf ear to all his lies. Louise is an Oxford graduate. She deserves far better than Blake a stripper and owner of a shady business. I am really surprise that Patricia, Louise's mum and her dad is ok with all the lies that the man courting their daughter been throwing at his ex-fiancée mean nothing to them. I wonder if their daughter's winning the competition means more than her welfare. Blake is a troubled man...how could he be a man who could be her protector. He dumped her so that he could protect her. What kind of logic is that? I am really gobsmacked at how easy he tells a lie. As if it is in his blood. I am really disturbed with the fact that Blake and his agent Max and the producers and everyone who is connected to this scandal tried now to defame Sam...calling her drunk and partying girl. This is the kind of society we live in today.... will do whatever in order to gain fame or in the TV world “rating”. I really wish the bachelorettes could sue these people for playing with their life. Sam quit her job to join and so are some other girls...so just the audiences could get some cheap entertainment and the producers could get their TV rating rocket high. It is enough that Blake purposely picked Sam to be the F2 in order to dump her in the end, when he has said earlier in the show that he wanted to protect her. I really do not understand why Sam and Lisa have to be hurt in order to protect Blake. It really depressing to find out the betrayal.

What Lisa said on The Project:

“He actually called me after the finale. He was quite upset with everything that had gone on. I was giving him a bit of support, but still letting Sam know that he was in contact with me, but then he asked me if I still had feelings for him and if I could see a future with him.

“I told him to get lost. I said how dare you say that to me and how dare you try to ruin the friendship between Sam and I.

“If you wanted to choose me, you choose me as your number one, not your number two. I would never be second to anyone.”

” I messaged Louise and told her he contacted me and she hasn’t replied. I think she’s a little bit naive to believe it.”

“I feel like I went on this journey to find Sam"

Read more at http://www.mamamia.com.au/entertainment/lisa-and-sams-interview-on-the-project/#jIXLM8VIpkVjCbHh.99

ETA: Regarding the bold, Yes, you read that correctly. He called her after the finale aired to ask if she had feelings for him once she had watched him cry letting her go on the finale. And we know that he had sent a letter to Louise before the Finale. It explains why he was evasive about whether he was with someone else. He was holding out...

If you look at Lisa's instagram after the finale is when she posted "sisters before misters" and that Sam and her found each other in the end. The timeline for the girls, Sam and Lisa, matches perfectly with their SM and what they are saying. Funny enough, even Blake's dodgy behaviour only serves to give more evidence to Lisa and Sam's story...

dirtystreetpie wrote:Have we forgotten the history of this man?  Blake is all about Blake. He left a girl waiting for him while he went on the show, he pashed at least half the girls on the show, he lives "in the moment", he picked out a wedding ring before knowing who he wanted to spend the rest of his life with, he unequivocally declared his undying love to Sam and then turns around immediately and doesn't show her any affection (immediately!!), he lies about his business, he lies about not having the  "headspace" to move on to another relationship (when he clearly already had declared his love for Louise via letter), he tweeted and deleted the statement that he  was NOT with louise when in fact he was, he just said he called Sam and said he was in love with louise yet sam still felt the need to text them both and ask them to tell her if it was true......  I could go on and on......  In the end it's his life and he is free to do what he pleases.  If louise wants that kind of man in her life  then they are a perfect match.  I do feel bad for the public for investing so much time and energy into all of this.   I feel bad for Sam because she put her heart on the line and gave him all she had.  His statement that he let louise go f3 because he was protecting her, what about Sam, why didn't he protect her when she expressed over and over how reluctant she was to go all in?  I digress. I too see the holes in his story and I don't think it will ever be resolved. My honest opinion is stop interviewing him and louise.  Stop giving them rewards for this behavior.  Let them slink off and live happily ever after, or for three or four months max.

I think only dumb person would not be able to see the lies after lies that Blake is throwing to the public. What did he think we are...as dumb as him. It is really a waste of education on Louise being an Oxford graduate and not able to put 2 and 2 together. I think she is in denial. She so wanted to win that she did not care anymore. Even his parents' face in the midst of all this scandal. She has dragged her family along in the name of fame.

I found this on Sam's instagram.
http://instagram.com/p/uSsoFrJKXd/?modal=true

[melissaparisleighdubber @fro01 Hey Sam, I use to share an apartment with Louise in Ashgrove - Brisbane 2013. She stole my stuff, and screwed me over big time with money so I feel for you re: Her stealing Blake. He is obviously a cheeseball and they are WELL suited. No loss for you sweet. I wouldn't normally comment on these things but felt you should know what she's really like xx]

Remembering that she did something similar with the recipe she stole from someone... I think this girl is not far out. I say her perfect character on TV was really too good to be true. There is not such thing as a perfect person. We are all human, we have our weaknesses. Now we could see what is Louise's weaknesses. I really hope that she can mother him without feeling bored at the end of it. This blakey boy is really a mama's boy... his mum keeps running after him, picking up the mess he made and tries to make them right.

I really Louise's parents did the right thing for her. Not down the road... in a few years time.... something terrible happened and they regretted it too late. Louise could easily get a nice true Aussie bloke..she does not have to be desperate. But I guess the competitive side of her is telling her that she finally won the Bachelor's heart...even if it is only the third choice. I really hope that Blake will not cheat on her like he did on his previous girl. He even got a ticket for talking on the phone with his girl's sister. I am really worry that Louise will one day regret but then it will be too late...ahhh...at least she will have children with Blake. The children will keep her happy.

The hard part of watching the interview tonight was seeing Lisa teary when talking about how Blake had treated her.

I really agree that the difference between Jason and Blake is that Jason did not try to spin the story, he knew really quickly he had made a mistake and did not mislead the public. Hence when the shock waned he was able to rebuild support and trust amongst many. I don't believe Blake will win the public back.

If I was one of Lou's girlfriends, after seeing Lisa tonight, I'd be organising an intervention.

yvi123 wrote:

Sundy wrote:Did Lisa say that Blake contacted her 'after' the finale aired and asked her about a future together. If so this is after he sent the letter to Louise!  The plot thickens

to me it sounded like he contacted her before the finale, like in the early stages of post-show when he had just been engaged to Sam.

Her being 'supportive' of him I took as meaning that she was willing to be a friend to him, and she was understanding of his mental exhaustion post-filming. But it seems he had other motives when he called Lisa up, rather than just having her as a friend to confide in.

But I could be wrong with how I interpreted it! Hopefully someone will post up a link soon. It was a really short segment tonight.

Actually I stand corrected. I have rewatched it and Lisa stated that Blake contacted her after the finale and that she sent a message to Louise to tell her but she didn't respond. It would still be interesting to see how close these declarations to both Lou and Lisa were.

Timeline (using evidence from Blake, Louise, Sam, and Lisa words/actions, if missing anything or errors let me know)

Week before finale: Blake breaks off the engagement, Sam doesn't really know why

Before finale: Letter given to Louise from Blake via her dad ( Oct 1: Louise favourites tweet about getting someone waay better than Blake, before or after letter?)

Oct 2: The finale episode airs (media blackout ensues)

After finale (Oct 2,3?): Blake calls Lisa to ask if she still has feelings/see a future. 
- Lisa says no way, she won't be 2nd choice and won't have anyone break up her friendship with Sam. 
- Lisa tells Sam what Blake did.


Oct 3 (noon): Breakup is announced, Blake's official statement via Network 10
- Bette's post support of Sam (Jess, Zoe, Laurina, Lisa, etc..)
- Out of F5, only Louise does not post any support or message to Sam (she is active posting on her SM though)

Oct 3 (evening): Lisa posts on IG "Sister before Misters" and that she went on journey to find Sam (evening of Oct 3).

Oct 6: The Project Interview with Blake and Sam. 
- Sam says it is all rubbish (she has been told by Lisa what Blake did). 
- Sam's not sure if he is with anyone else. (She knows from Lisa he contacted her so it is possible) but hopes not. 
Sam calls Blake the jack word. 
- Blake says he proposed because he loves Sam (present tense usage). She is just a "beautiful person"
- Blake says his heart is broken, because 'all the women' said goodbye (Lisa has told him no post-finale). 
- Blake says it is not about anyone else (he still has Louise potentially wanting to be with him?). 
- He says all too raw, he needs healing, time, and no headspace for anyone else
- Other radio interviews (confirms no one else at all, "definitely not". Confirms he did speak to Lisa after the show to talk about 'pregnant rumours')

Oct 9: Blake posts on Twitter "who is confirming these allegations I am with Louise?"
- Zoe asks if he is confirming "no" to rumours with Louise 
- Rumours about Louise been rampant since breakup news
- Lisa and Sam have unfollowed her IG prior to his tweet (Louise was only F5 not posting to support Sam. Louise hasn't responded to Sam's text about rumours, she confirms this in her Project Interview with Blake.)
- Max Markson, PR follows Blake on Twitter

Oct 13: Louise and Blake post on SM
- Louise posts "Be happy and smile" on her IG/Twitter
- Blake posts on Twitter about cabbage patch dolls, doesn't own a strip club.
- They spent a week? in Thailand (so either during or after posts)
- Max Markson retweets Blake's tweet about cabbage patch dolls/no strip club

Oct 14: Blake deletes Tweet about "Louise" rumour

Oct 17: Announcements that Blake and Louise together confirmed
- Woman's Day Magazine article announcement
- Blake, Louise, and Max retweet Woman's Day "Out of Hiding" promotion
- Network Ten TBAU announcement on SM, etc
- The Project Interview announced Blake and Louise (filmed in Thailand)

Oct 20: Woman's Day paid Magazine and The Project Interview
- WD mag spread (Blake's love letter before finale, Louise watched finale knowing he wanted only her, Sam was a drunk partier, and just a friend. Louise confirms she never responded to Sam contacting her prior to her trip to meet Blake about rumours. Too delicate a situation)
- TP Interview (Blake loved Louise in Cape Town, let Louise go to protect her. Sam told him not to mention Louise. Sam knew he "had feelings" but didn't know, since Blake didn't know till post-show whether he and Louise together. Louise says she can't question just support Blake. It is a true love story).

Oct 21: Sam radio, Lisa & Sam The Project Interview
- Sam on radio interview (Says she didn't know but suspected Louise since Louise never texted her back about rumours post-finale. Feels bad for Louise and hopes Blake is really genuine with her but for Louise to make sure Blake is telling her the truth. Says so many holes in Blake's story it is ridiculous to her and Lisa).
- Sam and Lisa watch Blake and Louise's interview...
- Sam says absolute rubbish coming from Blake about her not wanting him to speak about Louise as the reason he dumped her (Louise had yet to even respond to Blake about letter pre-finale). Sam had asked Blake and he denied it. Asked Louise and no response. 
- Lisa says Blake called her after the finale aired. Wanted to know if she had feelings and saw a future. Lisa says no, will never be 2nd choice. Told Sam what Blake did and that for her she went on the journey to meet Sam. 
- Lisa says she contacted Louise to tell her what Blake had done, coming to her after finale to see if she would get back with him.
- They both feel bad for Louise, says Louise wants to believe what Blake says. Hopes she will be okay.

HodanG wrote:He sent the letter to Louise after the finale. Lisa said he contacted her after the finale. Looks like he was confused between Lisa or Louise so Lisa turned him down so he ran to Louise and she accepted him..

Louise = stated in The Project Interview that she received the letter before the finale. Carrie said to Louise, so you watched the finale knowing that he wanted you? Louise says yes.
Lisa = states Blake contacted her after the finale. She turned him down and said get lost. She told Sam that Blake had contacted her (explains why Sam calls him a jack***). 

Anyway... this timeline best it explains why he was heartbroken (Lisa told him no) as well as hopeful (Louise he still working on hearing yes.. they see each other first time in Thailand) during his TheProject Interview.

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Also, there is evidence (Interviews, WD mag, radio interviews, for each point on the timeline and can scroll back upthread to see it all.)