The Bachelor Australia - Season 2 - Blake Garvey - *Sleuthing* - *Spoilers* - MEDIA & Social Media Discussion -

JayBee wrote:Hi, New to this, never posted anything like this before.

Just wanted to include a link to an article about said "ex-gf" of Blake, that I came across while reading your discussions....not sure if it will be relevant?

http://entropicorgan.blogspot.com.au/2014/09/the-bachelors-ex-girlfriend-in-alleged.html

Just noticed her mentioned lately and not sure if anyone else has seen this too? If she is a fake, then some of the theories/insights may need re-thinking? Should I have posted this?

Thank you all for your insights - I have enjoyed following this discussion and hope it's fine to continue to do so.

Welcome. Someone who claimed to be Blake's friend posted here to fill us in on this, we were open to listening to all perspectives, this person was still in an eight month relationship with Blake so did know something of him.

dirtystreetpie wrote:ok I was once on here and was banned......not sure why.  However I have never given any information that wasn't true and most, if not all at this point has been proven truthful.  

I happen to know the scoop about who the phone call could have been about.  Could have been about two of the girls.  Jess was an escort in Sydney is what i have been told.  I have also been told that Lisa has a past in Japan.  As well as working in a strip club in Sydney as a waitress.  

this is what the instagram comment that allforlove posted said as well wonder if its true/rumor jess has been a bit incognito compared to other girls

So blake runs a male stripping company and has been diagnosed with depression after the show and also jess is an escort... All from a reliable source. This show has just been full of drama! 9h
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i wonder if this is true about his health i hope he gets better if so

Regarding watching the face this article makes sense. Thought to share if one wants to gauge who is telling what in the interviews. 

Although this myth [eye movement] has been debunked, there are some ways to analyze an interviewee’s behavior to get hints on whether they’re lying–but the methods are far more complicated that simply tracking the direction a person is looking. ”There are some actual cues that might indicate lying—such as being static or talking less or dropping in terms of emotionality,” says Wiseman, “but I don’t think there’s any reason to keep holding onto this idea about eye movement.”

http://www.smithsonianmag.com/science-nature/myth-busted-looking-left-or-right-doesnt-indicate-if-youre-lying-1922058/?no-ist

"We tried our best because the love between us was so real. … Ultimately we are at different points in our lives.” (People press release from Emily and Jef breakup)  

"Once Blake returned to his everyday life, he realised that they both wanted different things from a relationship and had different priorities

Do you think the franchise has a manual? We won't get the truth from Blake or Channel 10/Shine.

One of the problems I have when watching Blake's interviews is that he HAS to lie to some extent. He cannot tell who the F1 is pre-FRC, etc, etc. (yet he is horrible at keeping it hidden as we sleuthed, thus making him genuinely happy with his choice). So that makes it difficult to figure out whether he is trying to not talk about something he has been told not to talk about, or because he doesn't want to/it is not true. 

Blake's interviews where he talks about not being able to see his F1 (Sam, since that is who he chose). 

- He comes across initially that he hasn't seen her because that is part of what you sign up for and though he doesn't like it, he realizes it is what it is. http://www.couriermail.com.au/video/id-5rNDI5cDqJk6_DpvDCnJepFiRLi8PCsd/Bach-off:-Blake-and-Tim

- he seems very excited and happy but a bit wishful to see her https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcpl-MbXySY

- this interview I immediately knew he had chosen Sam by his trying to misdirect and obviously so. He couldn't hide it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yqU70ph4jzk (around 5:00)

- last interview I saw, the anonymous call one, he truly is dumbfounded, he ends the interview saying he doesn't even get to see her ... He says it in such a way, on his own volition without being asked, that it seems like he is now baffled as to why he cannot see her. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mcpl-MbXySY

I just don't see how he is faking all this?
Unless he is so, so good. But he has no one to mirror. Sam is not with him. Yet his face, when he talks about her, he looks like how he looked when he was with her. It was how I knew he had chosen Sam. 

If this was a whole conspiracy to 'hire' a bachelor with a sleazy past to promote another agenda (first Bette) and then throw him under the bus that would be sad. I find it odd in a way, that Blake didn't really seem to give a statement, it was made FOR him. It seems like a LOT was done where he was out of the loop... and bewildered about not having seen Sam yet.


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If he is single, and with no one at all, that will say something. I just don't see based on his interviews how this was an early breakup. He seemed open to relocating, etc. Granted that could be for someone else, but when he described love here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3087m9PxDCs  he described Sam, which I pointed out earlier (but I guess that is easy to do if he is thinking of who he chose, rather than the person themselves. Hmmm..)

I am just putting these together as a baseline of sorts, because, short as it will be, there will be something to compare it to in regards to how he speaks on his interview on The Project. I definitely think there is something in the way he says things, change of tone, that shows lying/sincerity. 

Occupation/behaviour aside, I am willing to give him the benefit of the doubt for some things. People do want to change, he may have seen TB as a way to make a different life for himself than the one he had. I don't know. How he would recover emotionally if he has been set up would be hard. Jury is out... 

There was mention made by the caller of a photo on a website of the F5 girl involved in whatever it was he was alluding to but would be guessing that has been taken down now.

AEF wrote:"We tried our best because the love between us was so real. … Ultimately we are at different points in our lives.” (People press release from Emily and Jeff breakup)  

"Once Blake returned to his everyday life, he realised that they both wanted different things from a relationship and had different priorities

Do you think the franchise has a manual? We won't get the truth from Blake or Channel 10/Shine.

It would not surprise me... Interesting difference here though...

'We' versus 'Blake'

Emily/Jeff definitely a unified statement of mutual decision.
Blake... only him, one sided. (Either set up to look bad - it is a passive aggressive statement - or truly one sided, thus Sam in the dark)

emusha wrote:

dirtystreetpie wrote:ok I was once on here and was banned......not sure why.  However I have never given any information that wasn't true and most, if not all at this point has been proven truthful.  

I happen to know the scoop about who the phone call could have been about.  Could have been about two of the girls.  Jess was an escort in Sydney is what i have been told.  I have also been told that Lisa has a past in Japan.  As well as working in a strip club in Sydney as a waitress.  

this is what the instagram comment that allforlove posted said as well wonder if its true/rumor jess has been a bit incognito compared to other girls

So blake runs a male stripping company and has been diagnosed with depression after the show and also jess is an escort... All from a reliable source. This show has just been full of drama! 9h
Read more at http://websta.me/p/823594594936858424_20527344#m7w09i3cWZqrywFx.99

i wonder if this is true about his health i hope he gets better if so

If it is Jess then that would explain a lot. He could have run back to Jess, after all, she had no desire for a husband, but just to date. And if she has this hidden in her life she would understand Blake's predicament and be able to play both side (Sam and Blake). He did say it was too raw to watch, like watching an ex, so he had strong feelings (his words, not mine). Watching it back, he would see what everyone saw, this *thing* with Jess. He was upset when she left. With Lisa? I think he was more exhausted, thus so much emotion. Jess is private on lots of SM, so hard to decipher. Her IG has very few followers.. especially out of all the girls. If Sam is in the dark, it may not be easy to just look at who she is spending time with. Louise could just not be one of the girls they had that kinship with - very plausible considering the Stepford moniker they gave her.

Sam's most recent IG photo..

 fro01 Sunday Funday  #sorryforspammingyourfeed #iwillpullupmysockstomorrow @mleighw @caitylucas @amywormald_ @gleesonic 2h
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Hi everyone.   I'm a bach/bette watcher from Australia. I've been reading through this forum since it got down to about F5 I think. Every time I thought I had something to say, one of you would be thinking the exact same thing and post about it , so I never got around to actually registering til now. But I did have a couple of comments I wanted to contribute now:

mercieme wrote:Because Mike Fleiss is very much involved with Bach AU, I will not be surprised if producers engineered the Meisnick & it will corroborate what Rosie said about Channel 10 being in chaos on finale day; they were planning an AFTR for sure but what maybe after the Meisnick attempt failed, then they had to force the media blackout. I am convinced the full story will come out soon, & I think for sure the Bachie girls will be the ones to give us the full download once they are able to talk.

Re the bolded bit. One thing that struck me with the timeline of the break-up: If Ch10 only found out about it a few days before the finale, why was that Friday 9.30pm timeslot (which was much speculated to be the ATFR) sitting there for over a week with a big fat 'TBA' in the program schedule..? I'm thinking that they knew earlier, whacked the TBA in their program info, and hoped like mad that Sam & Blake would work things out so they could do their ATFR show.. maybe?

atem wrote:I don't think a Bachelorette show will do well.  That's just my opinion though.

I completely agree. There's such a double-standard with how we view this show. We seem to tolerate a bloke 'dating' multiple women a lot better than we tolerate a woman doing it. I think Sam would be nuts to do a Bachelorette series, her 'good girl' reputation would be shot to pieces.

dirtystreetpie wrote:I happen to know the scoop about who the phone call could have been about.  Could have been about two of the girls.  Jess was an escort in Sydney is what i have been told.  I have also been told that Lisa has a past in Japan.  As well as working in a strip club in Sydney as a waitress.  

Have also heard this story about Jess too, and also that she does drama classes. Was told this a few days after the 'Vile & Jackie-O Show' was on the radio, but whether it is right or not I still don't know for sure, other than hearsay. Nothing surprises me these days with the people who sign up for these sorts of shows over here though, most of them seem to have an agenda of some sort to push.

Re Blake himself... I'm not sure why he would go on a show like this, especially as the lead, if he didn't want his background info/occupation etc, to get out. He lives in Australia for goodness sake, we love to cut tall poppies down, especially in the media!!!   So that makes absolutely no sense to me, the notion that he'd be embarrassed or not wanting it to be known. So I think that he's probably not as worried about everyone finding out as some might think...

Jess!s bio reads, her passion for dance and acting took her to Perth.....do you think it's possible she met Blake in stripping circles there, that's why the caller was saying that Blake knew who he was talking about? Especially if Blake was trying to get Alpha Angels up?

ellmack wrote:Hi everyone.   I'm a bach/bette watcher from Australia. I've been reading through this forum since it got down to about F5 I think. Every time I thought I had something to say, one of you would be thinking the exact same thing and post about it , so I never got around to actually registering til now. But I did have a couple of comments I wanted to contribute now:

Re Blake himself... I'm not sure why he would go on a show like this, especially as the lead, if he didn't want his background info/occupation etc, to get out. He lives in Australia for goodness sake, we love to cut tall poppies down, especially in the media!!!   So that makes absolutely no sense to me, the notion that he'd be embarrassed or not wanting it to be known. So I think that he's probably not as worried about everyone finding out as some might think...

to your first post! thanks for posting with us

actually if you think about it...blake's business -- the primary audience is women!! that's the same audience that TB focuses on...if he portrays himself in the right way that's the exact demographic he's trying to get his business to reach...

regarding Tbette interesting that sam's good girl image would be shot if she does the bette -- it is quite a double standard! does the bette air in aussie? how do people react to it? relationship standards seem to be a bit more conventional than the us with men chasing women etc...