Re: Nick Viall Bachelorette 10 - Fan Forum - Updates - Discussion - Thread #9

by Catdwoman50 Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:40 am

mercieme wrote:
nutty1 wrote:Here are my foggy thoughts this morning, before I have even finished my first cup of coffee……

I don't think Nick will be the next Bachelor, because, in his own words, the infamous question, which naturally spills over to include Nick in general, was very "polarizing". Other years, I think Fleiss would have peed is pants for someone like Nick, but coming off of JP's season, I'd say he will play it safe. And as much as I'd love to see him on my TV each week, I am afraid he'd be bashed by a lot of people. He'd be loved by many, but again….polarizing.

I think JJ will provide us with plenty of weekend pictures….YAY!

I am still curious as to who set up all those interviews for Nick….and why?

TPTB (Megan Firestone one of the producers) & ABC publicity were seen with him at the GMA interview. So Andi saying he is being manipulative made me LOL. Everything he said on his media tour was approved by the powers that be at ABC. Nick is clearly not the problem here so Andi needs to redirect her anger at ABC if she had a problem with his media rounds

One more thing and then I'll staaap, I think I am with most of y'all in the final stages of grief because we are finally accepting that:

Much of the ATFR and after the ATFR is about reading between the lines:

Andi: I can't tell you it's not you on national TV because TPTB will just delete it (whatever reason for breakup has to fit the story will be kept in the edits)
Nick: I cannot say it out loud but half of this rigamarole is TPTB induced - however I do have a few things I want to clarify and feelings that I need to validate
Nick: Also, please note my running after you is a continuation of the story that I really only have to do because I got caught divulging the ending
Andi to Ali: Nick is only doing this because he's a TPTB puppet - Manipulative!
Me: Pot call the kettle, please!

I think the truth is somewhere in the middle, there were feelings involved - how can it not be? The show captured all of them in the bubble, this magnifies feelings due to desperation. So, reading between the lines, knowing the show, and understanding that human beings were involved, they all made decisions (right, wrong, or indifferent) our interpretation of these will always be colored by our belief system so no one is wrong or right. I think we need to take the necessary steps to get to our brand of "acceptance" including Nick. Woohoo!

by happygolucky Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:42 am

Notarose, Sue bestbud!

all good

I only responded, because usually I do agree with you on everything, so no need for me to write, but that's one part I don't see it the same way.
I know, I thought so too, that they are this amazing match, watching them together was beautiful and all you wrote, but the way Andi talked on the day of the break-up, even the night before ... gave me the idea, my opinion, that she never really understood the essence of Nick, she didn't really get him and the way she is responding to him (about him) after ATFR (and on the same night) is giving me this conclusion. That she saw one part, never got to understand the other side of him and after she broke it off, she changed her tune about what she believes about him.
I wrote word 'hate', probably was too strong, maybe like Kasha wrote, is more about the resentment and anger ... so I will continue reading you all and try to see it from your point of view, then I'll come back commenting.

by SueSt Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:42 am

nutty1 wrote:Can someone please help me? I am looking for the origin of Cecelia's avi picture, or the original post that explains where it came from, or a link to it. I have looked but couldn't find it.
THANK YOU!

http://marymurnane.com/2013/11/27/nick/

by SueSt Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:45 am

happygolucky wrote:Notarose, Sue all good
I only responded, because usually I do agree with you on everything, so no need for me to write, but that's one part I don't see it the same way.
I know, I thought so too, that they are this amazing match, watching them together was beautiful and all you wrote, but the way Andi talked on the day of the break-up, even the night before ... gave me the idea, my opinion, that she never really understood the essence of Nick, she didn't really get him and the way she is responding to him (about him) after ATFR (and on the same night) is giving me this conclusion. That she saw one part, never got to understand the other side of him and after she broke it off, she changed her tune about what she believes about him.
I wrote word 'hate', probably was too strong, maybe like Kasha wrote, is more about the resentment and anger ... so I will continue reading you all and try to see it from your point of view, then I'll come back commenting.

All good Happy. bestbud!

by isittrue Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:45 am

sdmom wrote:So JJ arrived in Chicago before Nick did yesterday. That makes me think all these media tours were scheduled later because of Nick's controversial ATFR. Media loves drama and controversies, and requested Nick. Has there ever a F2 on GMA?

Plus we analyzed how little luggage he had for the number of days he ended up being down there. I think maybe Molly was on GMA of course she was with Jason by that time. (someone said Clair - but I did not watch that season so she might have been on it)

by california90 Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:47 am

Can someone tell me this whole Ali story- all I read was Ali and the word 'manipulative' and when I think of that, I think of the time during Des's season, she would try to tell Des that James was manipulative or w/e. Ali really uses that word a lot and really tries to get into the heads of these 'ette's because she did that with Des.

by isittrue Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:53 am

Ali was one bachelorette that I liked better during her show than post-show. Post-show it is apparent, IMO, what her intentions were being on the show. I liked both Roberto and Chris L. and still do.

by SueSt Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:57 am

california90 wrote:Can someone tell me this whole Ali story- all I read was Ali and the word 'manipulative' and when I think of that, I think of the time during Des's season, she would try to tell Des that James was manipulative or w/e. Ali really uses that word a lot and really tries to get into the heads of these 'ette's because she did that with Des.

The short of it California is that Ali interviewed Nick on Tuesday and had a very good impression of him, tweeted cool guy, etc..
Then she came back on the show Wednesday and said that she had spoken with Andi who called Nick manipulative, that she wasn't taking sides, but that 'ettes needed to stick together.
We here on the board were speculating that Ali got orders from TPTB to change her tune.

by happygolucky Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:57 am

isittrue wrote:
sdmom wrote:So JJ arrived in Chicago before Nick did yesterday. That makes me think all these media tours were scheduled later because of Nick's controversial ATFR. Media loves drama and controversies, and requested Nick. Has there ever a F2 on GMA?
Plus we analyzed how little luggage he had for the number of days he ended up being down there. I think maybe Molly was on GMA of course she was with Jason by that time. (someone said Clair - but I did not watch that season so she might have been on it)

Yeah, definitely wasn't planned in advance before ATFR, it was all because of his "controversial" comment. Also, do you think TPTB lent him that jacket and a shirt for GMA, he did undress and leave it with the producer.

by SueSt Fri Aug 01, 2014 11:59 am

happygolucky wrote:
isittrue wrote:
sdmom wrote:So JJ arrived in Chicago before Nick did yesterday. That makes me think all these media tours were scheduled later because of Nick's controversial ATFR. Media loves drama and controversies, and requested Nick. Has there ever a F2 on GMA?
Plus we analyzed how little luggage he had for the number of days he ended up being down there. I think maybe Molly was on GMA of course she was with Jason by that time. (someone said Clair - but I did not watch that season so she might have been on it)
Yeah, definitely wasn't planned in advance before ATFR, it was all because of his "controversial" comment. Also, do you think TPTB lent him that jacket and a shirt for GMA, he did undress and leave it with the producer.

I think the GMA jacket was his suit jacket from ATFR... he changed before leaving the studio for the airport.

by nutty1 Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:01 pm

SueSt wrote:
nutty1 wrote:Can someone please help me? I am looking for the origin of Cecelia's avi picture, or the original post that explains where it came from, or a link to it. I have looked but couldn't find it.
THANK YOU!

http://marymurnane.com/2013/11/27/nick/

Thank you!!!

by Guest Fri Aug 01, 2014 12:01 pm

happygolucky wrote:
isittrue wrote:
sdmom wrote:So JJ arrived in Chicago before Nick did yesterday. That makes me think all these media tours were scheduled later because of Nick's controversial ATFR. Media loves drama and controversies, and requested Nick. Has there ever a F2 on GMA?
Plus we analyzed how little luggage he had for the number of days he ended up being down there. I think maybe Molly was on GMA of course she was with Jason by that time. (someone said Clair - but I did not watch that season so she might have been on it)
Yeah, definitely wasn't planned in advance before ATFR, it was all because of his "controversial" comment. Also, do you think TPTB lent him that jacket and a shirt for GMA, he did undress and leave it with the producer.

Clare was on GMA briefly too..telling her insight, since she didnt show up at ATFR :Nod:

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