Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Bachelorette 10 - General Discussion

mindless wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

mindless wrote:
WORD. I don't even like Andi and Josh, yet I still wouldn't feel comfortable making assumptions about their family matters based on some unfollows. I agree that it seems there's something off, but we really have no idea what, so what is the point of speculating? Going over every family member's mistakes and personality flaws in order to figure out who's to blame... It's just disrespectful IMHO. Far be it from me to tell others what to post, but if you call yourself a fan of these people, then shouldn't you be respectful of all their loved ones? At least until there's a concrete reason not to be. Innocent until proven guilty and so on. What's worse is that we know for a fact someone in the family reads these forums.

That's what the Fan threads are for. this is a discussion thread, and therefore discussions speculation positive or negative take place in this thread.

Regardless of who reads this board, opinions are always welcome as long as they are within the rules.

I haven't been to the fan thread in a while, since I'm not a fan, but according to some posts here the criticising family members has been going on in the fan thread as well. That's what I don't get. If I like someone, then I'm not gonna say bad things about their family members based on some figments of imagination, which this whole Kacie/Andi feud seems like to me at the moment. Like I said, it's not my intention to tell people what to post, I'd just encourage everyone who cares about this couple to consider if they might be overstepping some boundaries. Discussing things we actually know about and sharing negative as well as positive opinions on them is one thing, but making assumptions and then forming opinions based on those assumptions is another. Some things are private for a reason. But that's just my opinion and of course everyone's free to post what they like, if they have no reservations about it.

I'm with you mindless, we don't know them as much as we think we do.

nannymargie wrote:

Alanna wrote:

nannymargie wrote:

How do you feel about MM removing all pictures of her other son and his fiance' from her timeline?  Just wondering.

She didn't remove them, the last one was September 30th when they were at Eric and Jessie's party. I think Josh defriended her around this time actually.

I do not see it on her timeline but in an album.

Read my previous post! They are definitely all still there! You just have to know how to see all posts and not just the condensed posts. Her most recent post of Josh was the Advocare video with Sabel licking him. She also included Josh in the collage with Todd Gurley pics. But all the older posts with Josh and Andi back from the finale airing are still there.

Laudergirl wrote:

Alanna wrote:

nannymargie wrote:I just checked MM timeline on face book.  There is not one picture of Andi and Josh together.  There are plenty of Aaron and Kacie and Stephanie and Chandler.  She does have the video Josh did for Advocare.

I did find the pictures in an album she had.

That cannot be right, she's posted a lot of pics from their charity events and other adventures. I think mm is kind of stuck in the middle because she seems pretty neutral to me so far, other than genuinely being friends with Kacie and not knowing Andi as well. I wonder if she'll post pics of them from tonight, I guess if Josh didn't call her yesterday, she probably won't post anything.

They are all still there, NannyMargie. No worries! If you scroll down farther on her timeline there comes a spot where it only shows Highlights. You can click "all stories" and all the older posts show up including Josh and Andi at the Decker event, UGA game, Pong Pong Challenge etc. She didn't delete anything, FB just can be tricky when looking at older posts on the timeline. They get condensed. Hope this makes you feel better!

Ok thanks for letting me know. I missed the that highlight twice. Sorry if I mislead anyone it was not intentional.

Lets hope there is a picture of Josh and Andi from tonite that she likes and will post to have a picture of all 3 of her kids and their significant other front and center.

This is my last comment in this thread because we are discussing something that we have 0% knowledge of.

My comment is: I don't follow anyone of my family in SM. Anyone. Does that mean that I'm a bad person for not following my brother, my parents or cousins? No.
When I talk to them is via Whatsapp, SMS, Skype, or I call them. To my that's better than talking to them on SM, it's more private and more family oriented that sending tweets or something of that nature. To me social media is more of showing off than to have deep or family oriented conversations and that's okay because that is the finality of it.

Like Glow worm and Emila23_12 said, I don't take my social media at all seriously and never will.

motheroffive wrote:I see a difference between being at a public function and walking through an airport. At a party you should have the expectation that as a public figure pictures will be taken. To me, walking through an airport should afford some level of privacy. You don't know what might be going on with them at that time - some serious discussion or even a small disagreement. I believe any public figure should have the right to say no in those circumstances, even Andi and Josh.

Totally agree.
Even if I saw my favorite person in the world in an airport I really wouldn't have stopped her or shout at her. I will probably passed out and cry my eyes out (the order may vary) because I freaking saw her!
We have to remember we are all human beings. A&J are just acting like ones. Seriously, I think 90% of all the fans of them had said that they are so nice.

Out. Have a great week guys! And remember this is just a tv show, it really doesn't affect us in our lives.

stuckinsc wrote:

timfan wrote:They are just probably tired of every were they go they have to stop to take pictures they are not actors or singers yes they appeared on tv but when does it stop maybe they figure if they say no sometimes people will stop asking then they can get on with living there life

It will stop when they stop posting themselves all over SM.  The less you post yourself the less others will ask for your pictures.  It is that simple.  And Andi went on tv twice, not once and realized it was too overwhelming but twice.

As for our speculation, Josh used to post to his family on SM all the time, that was his choice of how to do things.  So when he changes how he is doing things we can speculate.  Changes in behavior usually signify something.  

Don't respect unfollowing his mom.  As I have said, this is a particularly difficult time for MM, I am disappointed to see her oldest son cut her off in anyway.  Over stupid silly things.  

from what I can tell andi and josh do not even post a lot on sm as in twitter I have seen days go by were she has not posted anything so I guess if you are on sm you give up your right to have some private time and I guess being on tv twice means she just signed her right to privacy which i do not believe in even regular celebrity should have some privacy jmo

Whewww!!  Thank goodness the pics are still there.  I don't know what to make of all this "unfollowing" on SM. I hope all is ok with them.  

Is it possible Josh and Andi got back in town yesterday in time to see the whole gang?  Who knows, they may have had a private family dinner together last night to celebrate MM's birthday.

Steel2009 wrote:Whewww!!  Thank goodness the pics are still there.  I don't know what to make of all this "unfollowing" on SM. I hope all is ok with them.  

Is it possible Josh and Andi got back in town yesterday in time to see the whole gang?  Who knows,  they may have had a private family dinner together last night to celebrate MM's birthday.

Andi posted they were home in atl last night.

Steel2009 wrote:Whewww!!  Thank goodness the pics are still there.  I don't know what to make of all this "unfollowing" on SM. I hope all is ok with them.  

Is it possible Josh and Andi got back in town yesterday in time to see the whole gang?  Who knows,  they may have had a private family dinner together last night to celebrate MM's birthday.

Just to clarify the gang was in KC this weekend. So Josh and Andi getting back to ATL would not get them near the Murrays.

I posted this last night, but it's long gone now, but Aaron favorited a tweet from Josh's best friend. Chad posted a tweet that had both Josh and Aaron in the tweet along with two other friends and was joking about how many of the Dawgs are engaged. If there is an issue, I don't think it's something that can never be fixed.

In regards to Lauren, all of her posts about Andi and Josh are still there. Lauren posts stuff about herkids when they attend events and what not. A lot has been happening with Aaron and Kacie, therefore, Lauren has posted a lot about them. I wouldn't be surprised to see Lauren post about Josh and Andi in NY this week if she gets some pictures.

Ash2214 wrote:I posted this last night, but it's long gone now, but Aaron favorited a tweet from Josh's best friend. Chad posted a tweet that had both Josh and Aaron in the tweet along with two other friends and was joking about how many of the Dawgs are engaged. If there is an issue, I don't think it's something that can never be fixed.  

In regards to Lauren, all of her posts about Andi and Josh are still there. Lauren posts stuff about herkids when they attend events and what not. A lot has been happening with Aaron and Kacie, therefore, Lauren has posted a lot about them. I wouldn't be surprised to see Lauren post about Josh and Andi in NY this week if she gets some pictures.

Didn't he also favorite a tweet this weekend that the Murray boys have great taste in women or are very lucky or something along those lines? Those two bros and their lil sis were such cute BFFs, I hope they don't let anything get in the way.

timfan wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

timfan wrote:They are just probably tired of every were they go they have to stop to take pictures they are not actors or singers yes they appeared on tv but when does it stop maybe they figure if they say no sometimes people will stop asking then they can get on with living there life

It will stop when they stop posting themselves all over SM.  The less you post yourself the less others will ask for your pictures.  It is that simple.  And Andi went on tv twice, not once and realized it was too overwhelming but twice.

As for our speculation, Josh used to post to his family on SM all the time, that was his choice of how to do things.  So when he changes how he is doing things we can speculate.  Changes in behavior usually signify something.  

Don't respect unfollowing his mom.  As I have said, this is a particularly difficult time for MM, I am disappointed to see her oldest son cut her off in anyway.  Over stupid silly things.  

from what I can tell andi and josh do not even post a lot on sm as in twitter I have seen days go by were she has not posted anything so I guess if you are on sm you give up your right to have some private time and I guess being on tv twice means she just signed her right to privacy which i do not believe in even regular celebrity should have some privacy jmo

I haven't gone to her IG, but on twitter in a 30 day period she put multiple posts up most days and of 30 days she didn't post on 7. So 75% of the time she is posting and sharing about her life and Josh. Her twitter is public, since I am not on twitter and can look it up. So yup, to me that is a lot. She also posts a lot of selfies. She is seeking attention. It is okay, but if you do that then be willing to take the good with the bad. It is just the way it is. And yes, she chose to put herself on tv twice and keeps putting herself out there. She is enjoying the benefits, so she will also have to deal with the less pleasant parts too. Again, post less and don't go to as many public events then you won't get as much flack. It really goes both ways. I am a Nikki fan, but I also will say her attitude towards fan ticked me off too. I feel this way for all these people. I made fun of Des for posting she was at a Mariner's game and then when someone asked where said she was hiding. If you want to hide, don't tell everyone where you are. Simple.

Also if you want privacy then go to private places. There are plenty of places that are a lot more private. And don't post where you are going. That works too.

Also, I am not saying that Andi is actually complaining, but one way to get everyone to back off is to stay out of the limelight.

stuckinsc wrote:

Steel2009 wrote:Whewww!!  Thank goodness the pics are still there.  I don't know what to make of all this "unfollowing" on SM. I hope all is ok with them.  

Is it possible Josh and Andi got back in town yesterday in time to see the whole gang?  Who knows,  they may have had a private family dinner together last night to celebrate MM's birthday.

Just to clarify the gang was in KC this weekend.  So Josh and Andi getting back to ATL would not get them near the Murrays.

Thanks Stuck!! For some reason, I thought they were all at UGA game on Saturday in Georgia. I'm just now realizing the game was in KC.