Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - Thread #6

[soccermom333]

It is ALL your fault, Andi. Right from Juan Pab's season you've shown you are a coldhearted b*tch! You were unlike any other lead, you ALONE led on your F2. How could you?! You had meaningless sex with me when you knew all along I love you? You know how know how special sex is to me? You knew that in the FS, I would not make love to you If I knew days after you were choosing Josh who is a great guy by the way! The only reason I attempted a few times to contact you is for me to have closure. You see, I do not understand. I thought you loved me?! You made me feel very special. I knew you could not say I love you back or "I'll marry you" but how could you give me the Hometown date rose when I thought you gave me that important rose to express you love me back? How could you? You did not specifically say why you did not choose me at the morning of the FRC. I had to know whyyyyy. So I had to. I had to call Chris if I can contact you. I had to know whyyyyy. I need closure. I had to. Because have to move on. I cannot. First, i had to know whyyyy. I learned you were in Mexico with Josh who is a great guy by the way. But I'm not sure if you're happy with him because I cannot forget what we had. It was special. You made me very special. You made me feel very loved. So... I had to know whyyyy. Watching the episodes they made me a villain. My family is angry. I really did not say those things. I had to. They made me do it. It is just editing, Andi. I know in my heart you do not believe I was a villain they made me to be. Because we are so connected. We get each other. We are each other's half. I do not understand whyyyyy. So I had to go to the MTA. I had to. I want to know whyyyyyy you did not choose me. I cannot wait for the AFTR. But I do not understand why you don't want to. You told Ali I did not try to contact you. I did. I had to know whyyyy. I know Josh would not mind because he's a great guy. You read my letter. Dint you remember the special time we had when you read that letter? Yes I hoped a little. Because I'm not sure if you are happy with Josh who am sure dint mind that letter. Surely he did not because he is a great guy. He did understand, right? I am certain you understood where I was coming from. What we had was special. I felt your love. That is why I.NEED.TO.KNOW.WHYYYY. That is not creepy at all because I know you understood. You get me. I know you understood why I need closure before the AFTR. I need to know as soon as possible so I can finally move on. And yet, what happened?! Why were you so cold in the AFTR as if we had nothing special. How could you tell me you never loved me? Whyyyyy. You gave me the Hometown Date Rose which I felt is your way of saying I love you back! Whyyyyy. You should have not given me that rose. How could you? We made sweetest love in the FS. You knew how I felt? I thought you loved me? Then you say you never loved me? You made me very, very special. You gave me the freaking Hometown Date Rose! how could be so cold at the AFTR? How could you? I was surprised you were indifferent. Where is the Andi I loved?  I'm sorry for my mistake. I should have said it differently. I was so shocked I was a loss for words. And those were words unfortunately that came out. I did not mean to hurt you. Really. I want to apologize for that mistake. I was just surprised by your demeanor. No, no, I'm not blaming you. I'm surprised that's all. I thank Sean for allowing me his space as my platform to apologize. I truly did not mean to hurt you. I'm urging my supporters not bash you. I'm sure after that what I said in my blog post no one will bash you. I really mean it when I say I wish you and Josh happiness. The blog post is my way of apologizing for my mistakes. I'm sorry for the slip up, Andi. I honestly would not have said that if only you did not have sex with me if you did not share my feelings. My blog post is a way of sharing my perspective especially the next Lead to not have sex if you are not sure of what you feel. My blog post is saying you should not have done that in the FS if we are not in the same page. The blog post is an apology and an explanation. I'm sorry I did not mean to hurt you but you see the FS is for those who love each other. So I'm sorry. I have not slipped up if you were not cold at the AFTR. Cross my heart. And I was so brokenhearted because you had sex with me when it meant nothing to you. You had sex with me when you are going to be engaged with another man days after. Do not mind what others would say about you. I made it clear in my blog post. They will not bash you. Again, I am truly sorry. I really wish you and Josh well. I'm sure with the blog post I cleared my side am sure you and Josh would understand, he's a great guy and I know we would be friends again someday. Once again, Andi I am sorry. If I could turn back the hands of time. I really did not mean it. Im moving on and learned from my mistakes. I wish you and Josh happiness.

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Perfectly clear. Right from the beginning it is MeAndi's fault. Right from. JuanPab's season we've seen her true colors. This would have not happened if Andi did exactly what Nick was advicing in the blog post.

Andi, whatever people think of you now is because you were inconsiderate, unkind and unforgiving. Suck it up, Meandi! And if you react with Nick's post, will only confirm what a horrible person you really are.

NOT.

Cari, you are my hero tonight.     

Saying exactly what most are thinking. IMO, this is getting a little ridiculous. Andi and Josh have moved
WAY past this. I do pray for Nick because he is clearly still hurting. I hope he gets the help he needs... somewhere.  I truly do.  

[Guest]

Mocking? Where in my post did I mention the members of this forum?

    

I thought it was very funny and with lots of truth in it. I can't see how anyone could feel mocked by this. (Well perhaps Nick) Have you read the letter Kelly T linked to in one of her tweets? It's very funny too, but yours was better.

[luvlady345]

It is ALL your fault, Andi. Right from Juan Pab's season you've shown you are a coldhearted b*tch! You were unlike any other lead, you ALONE led on your F2. How could you?! You had meaningless sex with me when you knew all along I love you? You know how know how special sex is to me? You knew that in the FS, I would not make love to you If I knew days after you were choosing Josh who is a great guy by the way! The only reason I attempted a few times to contact you is for me to have closure. You see, I do not understand. I thought you loved me?! You made me feel very special. I knew you could not say I love you back or "I'll marry you" but how could you give me the Hometown date rose when I thought you gave me that important rose to express you love me back? How could you? You did not specifically say why you did not choose me at the morning of the FRC. I had to know whyyyyy. So I had to. I had to call Chris if I can contact you. I had to know whyyyyy. I need closure. I had to. Because have to move on. I cannot. First, i had to know whyyyy. I learned you were in Mexico with Josh who is a great guy by the way. But I'm not sure if you're happy with him because I cannot forget what we had. It was special. You made me very special. You made me feel very loved. So... I had to know whyyyy. Watching the episodes they made me a villain. My family is angry. I really did not say those things. I had to. They made me do it. It is just editing, Andi. I know in my heart you do not believe I was a villain they made me to be. Because we are so connected. We get each other. We are each other's half. I do not understand whyyyyy. So I had to go to the MTA. I had to. I want to know whyyyyyy you did not choose me. I cannot wait for the AFTR. But I do not understand why you don't want to. You told Ali I did not try to contact you. I did. I had to know whyyyy. I know Josh would not mind because he's a great guy. You read my letter. Dint you remember the special time we had when you read that letter? Yes I hoped a little. Because I'm not sure if you are happy with Josh who am sure dint mind that letter. Surely he did not because he is a great guy. He did understand, right? I am certain you understood where I was coming from. What we had was special. I felt your love. That is why I.NEED.TO.KNOW.WHYYYY. That is not creepy at all because I know you understood. You get me. I know you understood why I need closure before the AFTR. I need to know as soon as possible so I can finally move on. And yet, what happened?! Why were you so cold in the AFTR as if we had nothing special. How could you tell me you never loved me? Whyyyyy. You gave me the Hometown Date Rose which I felt is your way of saying I love you back! Whyyyyy. You should have not given me that rose. How could you? We made sweetest love in the FS. You knew how I felt? I thought you loved me? Then you say you never loved me? You made me very, very special. You gave me the freaking Hometown Date Rose! how could be so cold at the AFTR? How could you? I was surprised you were indifferent. Where is the Andi I loved?  I'm sorry for my mistake. I should have said it differently. I was so shocked I was a loss for words. And those were words unfortunately that came out. I did not mean to hurt you. Really. I want to apologize for that mistake. I was just surprised by your demeanor. No, no, I'm not blaming you. I'm surprised that's all. I thank Sean for allowing me his space as my platform to apologize. I truly did not mean to hurt you. I'm urging my supporters not bash you. I'm sure after that what I said in my blog post no one will bash you. I really mean it when I say I wish you and Josh happiness. The blog post is my way of apologizing for my mistakes. I'm sorry for the slip up, Andi. I honestly would not have said that if only you did not have sex with me if you did not share my feelings. My blog post is a way of sharing my perspective especially the next Lead to not have sex if you are not sure of what you feel. My blog post is saying you should not have done that in the FS if we are not in the same page. The blog post is an apology and an explanation. I'm sorry I did not mean to hurt you but you see the FS is for those who love each other. So I'm sorry. I have not slipped up if you were not cold at the AFTR. Cross my heart. And I was so brokenhearted because you had sex with me when it meant nothing to you. You had sex with me when you are going to be engaged with another man days after. Do not mind what others would say about you. I made it clear in my blog post. They will not bash you. Again, I am truly sorry. I really wish you and Josh well. I'm sure with the blog post I cleared my side am sure you and Josh would understand, he's a great guy and I know we would be friends again someday. Once again, Andi I am sorry. If I could turn back the hands of time. I really did not mean it. Im moving on and learned from my mistakes. I wish you and Josh happiness.

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Perfectly clear. Right from the beginning it is MeAndi's fault. Right from. JuanPab's season we've seen her true colors. This would have not happened if Andi did exactly what Nick was advicing in the blog post.

Andi, whatever people think of you now is because you were inconsiderate, unkind and unforgiving. Suck it up, Meandi! And if you react with Nick's post, will only confirm what a horrible person you really are.

NOT.

     Well said!

Not really, because it is mocking other posters opinions.

How is it mocking other posters? Her post is about Nick and personally it's spot on IMO, Nick's MO is always someone else is the blame.....

[Bet2Win]

Mocking? Where in my post did I mention the members of this forum?

    

If you weren't mocking, then I apologize. However, to my knowledge, Nick has never called Andi "MeAndi". That term is used by several members, and was coined by me at the very beginning of the season.

[bleuberry]

Josh is a great guy btw . Funny post, reads just like Nick. I was looking for a 'fiancé type of stuff' reference. Please edit accordingly.

[Cari]

Mocking? Where in my post did I mention the members of this forum?

    

If you weren't mocking, then I apologize.  However, to my knowledge, Nick has never called Andi "MeAndi".  That term is used by several members, and was coined by me at the very beginning of the season.  

I apologize, too! My sentence with Meandi is from me. Not anymore from "Nick". I used Meandi as I thought it was pertaining to Andi's general tenor/description as a cold hearted b*tch she is perceived outside the forum. They are nasty in IG!     I'm honestly not mocking you at all!  I dint know you coined it.  I just hope Andi knows how to use the block button because they are cruel out there!

[albean99]

I'm trying to see where that fits in a Nick discussion thread. Maybe an Andi discussion thread? I agree with Bet that it seems to be mocking other posters but guess that's subjective. That's the way it came across to me.

I'm sure I missed all the discussion and am not going back to find them so will say that I thought Nick's piece was well said and if Andi doesn't like it - too bad.

[Guest]

The example with Lindsay is to show that someone like Nick who didn't get much closure, but she didn't go after Sean once the show was over. She had enough respect for both Sean and Catherine to respect their relationship.

Lindsay didn't need to go after Sean for closure. He stated it to her when he let her go - that he cared for her, but he felt more deeply for someone else. Nick needed to hear this vs. you never meant anything to me.

[Sprite]

Cari, you are my hero tonight.      

Saying exactly what most are thinking.  IMO, this is getting a little ridiculous.  Andi and Josh have moved
WAY past this.  I do pray for Nick because he is clearly still hurting.  I hope he gets the help he needs... somewhere.   I truly do.     

I wouldn't necessarily say most, but I agree that it is getting a little ridiculous.

While Nick may or may not still be hurting, I don't think he really needs any more help than any other person whose been through the wringer on this show. Nick seems to be moving on just as much as Andi and Josh. I think the article was part of that and he has more serious issues to deal with than Andi.

@nick_viall28 To one of the most amazing men, uncles, and brothers in the world. Your love, compassion, and spirit you shared with everyone you touched will never be forgotten. I love you very much uncle mark. Hang in there buddy. All my love and prayers. #family #prayforcomfort

[stuckinsc]

I'm trying to see where that fits in a Nick discussion thread. Maybe an Andi discussion thread? I agree with Bet that it seems to be mocking other posters but guess that's subjective. That's the way it came across to me.

I'm sure I missed all the discussion and am not going back to find them so will say that I thought Nick's piece was well said and if Andi doesn't like it - too bad.

The post and the responses may clarify why some of us see hate and bashing. Many prayers for the Vialls who are made fun of in that post, as they deal with the illness and imminent lost of their brother and uncle.

[Ash2214]

The example with Lindsay is to show that someone like Nick who didn't get much closure, but she didn't go after Sean once the show was over. She had enough respect for both Sean and Catherine to respect their relationship.

Lindsay didn't need to go after Sean for closure. He stated it to her when he let her go - that he cared for her, but he felt more deeply for someone else. Nick needed to hear this vs. you never meant anything to me.

Right, but don't you think Sean telling her he loved her (no matter what he really meant by saying that) could have been possibly confusing to Lindsay? I would certainly think so. I wouldn't even know how to process that if I were in her shoes.

Andi gave that to him at the ATFR. She never said he meant nothing to her. She actually reiterated that she cared for him and that if she were to do the whole thing over, she would still have the great relationship with Nick that she did. She told him she liked him and that everything she said about him on the show was true, such as him making her feel like a woman, but in the end she fell in love with Josh and their relationship was stronger. She even admitted her mistake and said she probably should have told him that months ago. He got the closure that all F2 look for, and he didn't like what she said, so he retaliated against her.

Let's face it, dumping Nick, picking someone else and deciding to get engaged to that person, and then turning Nick down the first time should have given him more than enough of a realization that she didn't want to be with him. If that wasn't enough, he should have realized it completely the second time he tried to speak with her after filming had ended.

[Alanna]

The example with Lindsay is to show that someone like Nick who didn't get much closure, but she didn't go after Sean once the show was over. She had enough respect for both Sean and Catherine to respect their relationship.

Lindsay didn't need to go after Sean for closure. He stated it to her when he let her go - that he cared for her, but he felt more deeply for someone else. Nick needed to hear this vs. you never meant anything to me.

Right, but don't you think Sean telling her he loved her (no matter what he really meant by saying that) could have been possibly confusing to Lindsay? I would certainly think so. I wouldn't even know how to process that if I were in her shoes.

Andi gave that to him at the ATFR. She never said he meant nothing to her. She actually reiterated that she cared for him and that if she were to do the whole thing over, she would still have the great relationship with Nick that she did. She told him she liked him and that everything she said about him on the show was true, such as him making her feel like a woman, but in the end she fell in love with Josh and their relationship was stronger. She even admitted her mistake and said she probably should have told him that months ago. He got the closure that all F2 look for, and he didn't like what she said, so he retaliated against her.

Let's face it, dumping Nick, picking someone else and deciding to get engaged to that person, and then turning Nick down the first time should have given him more than enough of a realization that she didn't want to be with him. If that wasn't enough, he should have realized it completely the second time he tried to speak with her after filming had ended.  

Deviating from the sex topic, I think it's so interesting that Nick said he watched the entire show, which I assume means her relationships with the other men too, including Josh, and still didn't "get it." Even Andi said she hoped watching the show would help give him closure if he saw her relationship with Josh but apparently that wasn't the case.

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