Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - Thread #6
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - Thread #6
Bashing or snarking? He is a viewer, just like all of us who watch BIP here and has every right to make fun of contestants.
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Honestly, anyone who goes on this show(bp/bip) is roadkill for the asking.
No good deed goes unpunished.
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sdmom wrote:Bashing or snarking? He is a viewer, just like all of us who watch BIP here and has every right to make fun of contestants.
Exactly, what Nick was doing was no different than what everyone else (including present and past contestants) does when watching these shows - even during the Bachelor, there was plenty of snarking by fans and contestants alike. What Marcus tweeted was more of a bash of Nick IMO and I read that Andi favored it so... what does that say about her and Marcus.
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sdmom wrote:Bashing or snarking? He is a viewer, just like all of us who watch BIP here and has every right to make fun of contestants.
In my opinion, therein lies the rub as I see a very fine line between the two and one that is often blurred.
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IMO Reality tv is not for the thin-skinned or those lacking a sense of humor.
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I enjoy Nick's tweets.
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - Thread #6
From fan forum:
By that ... we don't need to go far in the history to recall Marcus talking about Nick.
Let's see:
episode 2 - "questioning" whether Nick is showing his true colors or just going along his plan so that he can come far and hides the true motive for being there [The Bette],
episode 5 - "talking" about Nick's D-move for going after Andi to console her [before anyone else could],
episode 6 - "expressing his frustration" over Nick's "arrogant" move for taking Andi away right at the beginning of cocktail part before RC (as if Andi was taken hostage and didn't go along on her own will),
episode 7 - "stating his opinion" that Nick is a douchebag, who shouldn't be trusted, that he will walk away if he comes to F2 and that Nick is there [TB] only for himself, for some other reasons.
in all of those episodes Nick hasn't said a word about Marcus.
So maybe, just maybe ... it's time. So if all the above was just TALK ... then I don't see Nick doing any bashing.
Beside, I don't see Nick going to another reality show and going after a girl [on TV] only few weeks after stating to have his heart broken, because he felt that she [Andi] is his soulmate.
Now talking about other's motive, own agenda, true colors and right reasons.
And before anyone jumps on board to let me see Marcus' point of view, let me be clear, that despite it all, I still like Marcus, I do find him a nice guy, with a lot to offer, a very sensible guy who knows how to behave ... but just like Nick ... is no angel.
copy-paste quoting myself wrote:I think things said and done during the Bachelorette can be forgiven, I say that with all honesty, everyone had his/hers own right to act as they did, if that served them best to make a good choice for their life ahead.
It's hard to forget tho', because you can't erase ... specially when it's all over the internet.
It's even harder to preach, when one should first live by example.
I'm sure I'm guilty of that too ... so I laugh it off.
By that ... we don't need to go far in the history to recall Marcus talking about Nick.
Let's see:
episode 2 - "questioning" whether Nick is showing his true colors or just going along his plan so that he can come far and hides the true motive for being there [The Bette],
episode 5 - "talking" about Nick's D-move for going after Andi to console her [before anyone else could],
episode 6 - "expressing his frustration" over Nick's "arrogant" move for taking Andi away right at the beginning of cocktail part before RC (as if Andi was taken hostage and didn't go along on her own will),
episode 7 - "stating his opinion" that Nick is a douchebag, who shouldn't be trusted, that he will walk away if he comes to F2 and that Nick is there [TB] only for himself, for some other reasons.
in all of those episodes Nick hasn't said a word about Marcus.
So maybe, just maybe ... it's time. So if all the above was just TALK ... then I don't see Nick doing any bashing.
Beside, I don't see Nick going to another reality show and going after a girl [on TV] only few weeks after stating to have his heart broken, because he felt that she [Andi] is his soulmate.
Now talking about other's motive, own agenda, true colors and right reasons.
And before anyone jumps on board to let me see Marcus' point of view, let me be clear, that despite it all, I still like Marcus, I do find him a nice guy, with a lot to offer, a very sensible guy who knows how to behave ... but just like Nick ... is no angel.
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Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 - Discussion - Thread #6
sdmom wrote:I enjoy Nick's tweets.
So do I. I am sure if it was anyone besides Nick that was tweeting, it would be accepted as entertaining snark, but since it's Nick, then it's called bashing.. and I don't think his tweets were that bad.
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in one of post show interview Marcus said Nick "just wants to be on TV". Who's on back to back reality show?
I don't hate on Marcus, and he has every right to say how he feels about Nick. I just find the above comment ironic.
I don't hate on Marcus, and he has every right to say how he feels about Nick. I just find the above comment ironic.
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sdmom wrote:in one of post show interview Marcus said Nick "just wants to be on TV". Who's on back to back reality show?
I don't hate on Marcus, and he has every right to say how he feels about Nick. I just find the above comment ironic.
You hit the nail on the head. Nick has every right to say his opinion. But...... Marcus has every right to state his opinion or REACT to someone else's.
There is obviously bad blood and no love lost between these two. Dylan and Marquel are still on the show. Will be interesting to see if Nick is an "equal opportunity snarker." LOL
Funny how Nick is showing parts of his personality now that Andi is seeing as "polarizing" and she now knows there is no way they ever would have worked out as a couple. He made it easy for her to "sail that ship" and close the lid throw away the key on any regrets what so ever. IMO as always.
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Can I just clarify that this isn't a fan thread and that Nick does have his own fan thread where only positive opinions should be posted? I would infer from that distinction that THIS thread is for the not so positive opinions, no? Don't quite understand the purpose of two threads about Nick otherwise.
It's pretty clear to me now that Nick made friends with certain guys from the show and alienated others. During the airing, many of the guys rallied around him, and very few, even the ones who probably didn't care for him, felt comfortable "piling on", considering the beating he was already taking on SM from some viewers. Now that the dust has settled a bit, it will probably be more apparent which guys he REALLY became friends with, ie, who continues to support and socialize with him. Josh said nobody liked him, which was obviously an exaggeration, but how much of one remains to be seen. I'm particularly curious about guys like Chris and Brian, who seemed to fall on both sides of the fence at various points during the season. Have they continued showing support for him post finale?
It's pretty clear to me now that Nick made friends with certain guys from the show and alienated others. During the airing, many of the guys rallied around him, and very few, even the ones who probably didn't care for him, felt comfortable "piling on", considering the beating he was already taking on SM from some viewers. Now that the dust has settled a bit, it will probably be more apparent which guys he REALLY became friends with, ie, who continues to support and socialize with him. Josh said nobody liked him, which was obviously an exaggeration, but how much of one remains to be seen. I'm particularly curious about guys like Chris and Brian, who seemed to fall on both sides of the fence at various points during the season. Have they continued showing support for him post finale?
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I suppose Nick fans want to defend him anyway even though it's not his fan thread. Happens in most of the discussion threads I think.
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