Re: Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 10 - Men Tell All - July 21/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion 2

by bilolo Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:27 pm

I like Nick and Josh they're my boys but even if he was mad and heartbroken that doesn't make what he said about Josh right or not an insult, it was meant to be negative (even what he said about Andi) because he was mad and blindsided. The thing is we see what we want to see and it depends on weither we like/don't like the person who's saying them and weither we like/don't like the person who's talked about. IMO

by sdmom Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:29 pm

I am not going to argue if Nick was bashing/bitter, BUT Nick never called Andi passive aggressive. He said "ummm, she’s incredibly stubborn, and if someone is passive aggressive and bottles it up, it probably…you know what I’m sayin" :soapbox

Thank you FLAChica for stating " Nick actually said if a person has passive-aggressive tendencies not that MeAndi was passive-aggressive"

OK, I think this is the last time I am going to dwell on this not so significant detail....
Carry on, people.

by Guest Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:32 pm

sdmom wrote:I am not going to argue if Nick was bashing/bitter, BUT Nick never called Andi passive aggressive. He said "ummm, she’s incredibly stubborn, and if someone is passive aggressive and bottles it up, it probably…you know what I’m sayin"
Thank you FLAChica for stating " Nick actually said if a person has passive-aggressive tendencies not that MeAndi was passive-aggressive"

OK, I think this is the last time I am going to dwell on this not so significant detail....
Carry on, people.

But that 'someone' is Andi. That was one complete sentence. I think we can logically assume he was talking about Andi.

by Ash2214 Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:34 pm

I don't know if it's just me, but I've seen plenty of pro Josh posts and plenty of pro Nick posts. I've seen people post that she is 100% with Josh and I've even seen posts that state she's 100% with Nick. It's a forum where people post their opinions, so unfortunately it's just the way it will be. I think it's tough for both fan groups. It's the way it goes. Is it Monday yet!?

by cindebugg Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:39 pm

chloep wrote:
He didn't have nice things to say about Andi either - the girl he was claiming to love just days before.

Okay, I am starting to get annoyed by the fact that whenever the vid is discussed, a****Edited******, but for some reason never elaborates...
Was it when he said that she was really close to her family, or how he LOVED her family? or how he was completely caught of guard bc he wanted to spend his life with her... Calling her stubborn? Really, I say Andi would be the first one to admit that she is.....
He did NOT dish her AT ALL. I know its easier for some people to say that and make him out to be the villain, who lead her on and Joshie the prince in shining armor, but the fact that he would NOT bash her, despite just having had his heartbroken by her, speaks volumes.... Bashing the person when your ego is hurt(saying "eh, she wasn't worth it anyway.") would be the easiest thing to do. It's the perfect coping mechanism of heartbreak. Yet he chose not to go down that route. He has his opinion of Josh and he is perfectly entitled to it. (Honestly, he spent more time with Josh then Andi did). However, that has nothing to do with Andi personally.

No he decided to trash the person who wasn't doing the choosing. Trashed the guy who was at the mercy of the same woman he was. Trying to plant seeds of doubt about Josh just makes it look like sour grapes even more.

by sdmom Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:39 pm

Ash2214 wrote:I don't know if it's just me, but I've seen plenty of pro Josh posts and plenty of pro Nick posts. I've seen people post that she is 100% with Josh and I've even seen posts that state she's 100% with Nick. It's a forum where people post their opinions, so unfortunately it's just the way it will be. I think it's tough for both fan groups. It's the way it goes. Is it Monday yet!?

JIMO: it's OK if people in fan threads claim Josh is 100% the winner or she definitely picked Nick. But, I would appreciate people will add IMO in other threads so I will know if it's a fact or just speculations. I am not a mod so if what I say is against the rules, please delete or correct me. I think it's absolutely fine to express our opinions, but we also have to be prepared not everyone will agree and our opinions will be challenged.
One thing ITA with you: Monday can't be here fast enough! I need my life and sanity back!!

by luvlady345 Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:40 pm

Nick's opinion of Josh is so off base, it's ridiculous.... Josh and Eric where the only two men who stood up to Andi.. Like Nick doesn't shit, eat and sleep that's why what he said about Josh is just so ridiculous/silly I am almost embarrass for his opinion of Josh after watching the season play out.....

by USAGold Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:45 pm

luvlady345 wrote: Nick's opinion of Josh is so off base, it's ridiculous.... Josh and Eric where the only two men who stood up to Andi.. Like Nick doesn't shit, eat and sleep that's why what he said about Josh is just so ridiculous/silly I am almost embarrass for his opinion of Josh after watching the season play out.....

Many others feel the same way & that is our opinion !! Everyone is entitled ! Monday will show the truth!!

by USAGold Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:46 pm

USAGold wrote:
luvlady345 wrote: Nick's opinion of Josh is so off base, it's ridiculous.... Josh and Eric where the only two men who stood up to Andi.. Like Nick doesn't shit, eat and sleep that's why what he said about Josh is just so ridiculous/silly I am almost embarrass for his opinion of Josh after watching the season play out.....

Many others feel the same way & that is our opinion !! Everyone is entitled ! Monday will show the truth!!

I am agreeing with you luvlady

by Alanna Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:48 pm

luvlady345 wrote: Nick's opinion of Josh is so off base, it's ridiculous.... Josh and Eric where the only two men who stood up to Andi.. Like Nick doesn't shit, eat and sleep that's why what he said about Josh is just so ridiculous/silly I am almost embarrass for his opinion of Josh after watching the season play out.....

I know, ITA. IMO, it just shows that Nick had no idea what's going on all season and who these people - Josh and Andi - were in reality. He must think watching the show back is like alternate reality or something.

by Jeepers Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:51 pm

luvlady345 wrote:
chloep wrote:
He didn't have nice things to say about Andi either - the girl he was claiming to love just days before.

Okay, I am starting to get annoyed by the fact that whenever the vid is discussed, ***Edited*** but for some reason never elaborates...
Was it when he said that she was really close to her family, or how he LOVED her family? or how he was completely caught of guard bc he wanted to spend his life with her... Calling her stubborn? Really, I say Andi would be the first one to admit that she is.....
He did NOT dish her AT ALL. I know its easier for some people to say that and make him out to be the villain, who lead her on and Joshie the prince in shining armor, but the fact that he would NOT bash her, despite just having had his heartbroken by her, speaks volumes.... Bashing the person when your ego is hurt(saying "eh, she wasn't worth it anyway.") would be the easiest thing to do. It's the perfect coping mechanism of heartbreak. Yet he chose not to go down that route. He has his opinion of Josh and he is perfectly entitled to it. (Honestly, he spent more time with Josh then Andi did). However, that has nothing to do with Andi personally.

NOPE not almost every single Josh/Andi fans bring this up I have seen a few but not almost all of their fans....

Thank you

by eirekay Wed Jul 23, 2014 7:52 pm

sdmom wrote:JIMO: it's OK if people in fan threads claim Josh is 100% the winner or she definitely picked Nick. But, I would appreciate people will add IMO in other threads so I will know if it's a fact or just speculations. I am not a mod so if what I say is against the rules, please delete or correct me. I think it's absolutely fine to express our opinions, but we also have to be prepared not everyone will agree and our opinions will be challenged.
One thing ITA with you: Monday can't be here fast enough! I need my life and sanity back!!

ITA - I expect to see those kinds of declarations in the FAN threads and even in the Contestant threads, but in the general threads, it would be nice if stances were softened a bit with IMO.

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