Re: Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Media Thread - Fan Forum - Discussion Thread #3

by atem Sat Jul 19, 2014 1:53 am

Isn't it the show inviting speculation with that video? So, how can one expect no one to speculate about it?

by Guest Sat Jul 19, 2014 2:49 am

2observe wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
cantstopwatchin wrote:Perhaps this is why Nick was in LA around the MTA - perhaps he and Andi pre-taped their segment without an audience and it'll be shown at the ATFR. The descriptions says only that she talks to CH live, not both suitors.

Good catch CSW! That makes total sense to me.
What I don't get is the filming of Nick in Milwaukee along with the picture of Nick with Bella. How does all of that fit in with the LA pre-taped "begging for another chance" segment?

my thought is maybe they do a segment with nick back at home with his cute sister bella and they are showing how heartbroken he is over andi. he still has feelings for her, thinks she really did make a mistake in sending him home and wants to try to win her back. so, he flies to LA the weekend of the MTA because he knows she'll be there and delivers a letter for her but probably doesn't get to see her and that is why andi receives a letter from the F2. something like that, or it's just a silly letter from her F3 who she'll see onstage at the MTA in 5 minutes. giggling

just had a thought about the edit. where is JBF when you need him? chris b. trying to crash the first epi is foreshadowing for nick possibly coming to the MTA to see andi. who knows really? i'm just throwing out ideas.

by 2observe Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:34 am

gabriele wrote:
2observe wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:

Good catch CSW! That makes total sense to me.
What I don't get is the filming of Nick in Milwaukee along with the picture of Nick with Bella. How does all of that fit in with the LA pre-taped "begging for another chance" segment?
my thought is maybe they do a segment with nick back at home with his cute sister bella and they are showing how heartbroken he is over andi. he still has feelings for her, thinks she really did make a mistake in sending him home and wants to try to win her back. so, he flies to LA the weekend of the MTA because he knows she'll be there and delivers a letter for her but probably doesn't get to see her and that is why andi receives a letter from the F2. something like that, or it's just a silly letter from her F3 who she'll see onstage at the MTA in 5 minutes.

just had a thought about the edit. where is JBF when you need him? chris b. trying to crash the first epi is foreshadowing for nick possibly coming to the MTA to see andi. who knows really? i'm just throwing out ideas.

I just have a problem with the timing of the filming; since according to the plane video, Nick didn't argue with Andi's decision to let him go. If Nick didn't bother to pursue Andi immediately after the ATFR, what could possibly have happen to cause him to change his mind? scratch

by Guest Sat Jul 19, 2014 3:58 am

2observe wrote:
gabriele wrote:
2observe wrote:
What I don't get is the filming of Nick in Milwaukee along with the picture of Nick with Bella. How does all of that fit in with the LA pre-taped "begging for another chance" segment?
my thought is maybe they do a segment with nick back at home with his cute sister bella and they are showing how heartbroken he is over andi. he still has feelings for her, thinks she really did make a mistake in sending him home and wants to try to win her back. so, he flies to LA the weekend of the MTA because he knows she'll be there and delivers a letter for her but probably doesn't get to see her and that is why andi receives a letter from the F2. something like that, or it's just a silly letter from her F3 who she'll see onstage at the MTA in 5 minutes.

just had a thought about the edit. where is JBF when you need him? chris b. trying to crash the first epi is foreshadowing for nick possibly coming to the MTA to see andi. who knows really? i'm just throwing out ideas.
I just have a problem with the timing of the filming; since according to the plane video, Nick didn't argue with Andi's decision to let him go. If Nick didn't bother to pursue Andi immediately after the ATFR, what could possibly have happen to cause him to change his mind?

that's a good question. did you read the US Weekly article? supposedly he's been trying to contact her since the FRC. i don't know if i believe that even though US is usually pretty reliable. it may be nothing and all completely made up going off the plane video comment of pulling a jason/molly switch.

by luvlady345 Sat Jul 19, 2014 8:19 am

2observe wrote:
gabriele wrote:
2observe wrote:
What I don't get is the filming of Nick in Milwaukee along with the picture of Nick with Bella. How does all of that fit in with the LA pre-taped "begging for another chance" segment?
my thought is maybe they do a segment with nick back at home with his cute sister bella and they are showing how heartbroken he is over andi. he still has feelings for her, thinks she really did make a mistake in sending him home and wants to try to win her back. so, he flies to LA the weekend of the MTA because he knows she'll be there and delivers a letter for her but probably doesn't get to see her and that is why andi receives a letter from the F2. something like that, or it's just a silly letter from her F3 who she'll see onstage at the MTA in 5 minutes.

just had a thought about the edit. where is JBF when you need him? chris b. trying to crash the first epi is foreshadowing for nick possibly coming to the MTA to see andi. who knows really? i'm just throwing out ideas.
I just have a problem with the timing of the filming; since according to the plane video, Nick didn't argue with Andi's decision to let him go. If Nick didn't bother to pursue Andi immediately after the ATFR, what could possibly have happen to cause him to change his mind?

Nothing had to happen, if it's true that Nick is trying to get her back maybe it because he feel/thinks he still has feelings for her nothing less or more and because TPTB loves drama to the end why not? I don't remember who made the post but I believe this is true that how during Brad's 2.0 season that the TPTB didn't want Brad to chose Emily that the tried everything in their power for that not to happen.. If Josh is the F1 they did everything for that NOT to happen, so if Nick is still trying to pursue Andi even after their engagement TPTB is in on this...

by pander3575 Sat Jul 19, 2014 9:21 am

luvlady345 wrote:
2observe wrote:
gabriele wrote:
my thought is maybe they do a segment with nick back at home with his cute sister bella and they are showing how heartbroken he is over andi. he still has feelings for her, thinks she really did make a mistake in sending him home and wants to try to win her back. so, he flies to LA the weekend of the MTA because he knows she'll be there and delivers a letter for her but probably doesn't get to see her and that is why andi receives a letter from the F2. something like that, or it's just a silly letter from her F3 who she'll see onstage at the MTA in 5 minutes.

just had a thought about the edit. where is JBF when you need him? chris b. trying to crash the first epi is foreshadowing for nick possibly coming to the MTA to see andi. who knows really? i'm just throwing out ideas.
I just have a problem with the timing of the filming; since according to the plane video, Nick didn't argue with Andi's decision to let him go. If Nick didn't bother to pursue Andi immediately after the ATFR, what could possibly have happen to cause him to change his mind?

Nothing had to happen, if it's true that Nick is trying to get her back maybe it because he feel/thinks he still has feelings for her nothing less or more and because TPTB loves drama to the end why not? I don't remember who made the post but I believe this is true that how during Brad's 2.0 season that the TPTB didn't want Brad to chose Emily that the tried everything in their power for that not to happen.. If Josh is the F1 they did everything for that NOT to happen, so if Nick is still trying to pursue Andi even after their engagement TPTB is in on this...

Wow, that certainly would be low to try and break up a couple just to get the lead they might want. It's one thing if you knew they broke up so they could have a possible surprise ending like Mesnick but I just have a hard time thinking they'd do this.

I can understand why Nick said he didn't argue when he was let go because he was shocked he wasn't the one but then later I'm sure there were things that he thought about that he wished he'd said. I don't have a problem with him trying to get her a letter however I will hate it if it even comes up at ATFR which from the previews it will be like Arie's journal. Hated that at the time and I still hate it. Just let the F2 say their goodbye and lets get to the happy couple.

by 2observe Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:12 am

pander3575 wrote:
luvlady345 wrote:
2observe wrote:
I just have a problem with the timing of the filming; since according to the plane video, Nick didn't argue with Andi's decision to let him go. If Nick didn't bother to pursue Andi immediately after the ATFR, what could possibly have happen to cause him to change his mind?

Nothing had to happen, if it's true that Nick is trying to get her back maybe it because he feel/thinks he still has feelings for her nothing less or more and because TPTB loves drama to the end why not? I don't remember who made the post but I believe this is true that how during Brad's 2.0 season that the TPTB didn't want Brad to chose Emily that the tried everything in their power for that not to happen.. If Josh is the F1 they did everything for that NOT to happen, so if Nick is still trying to pursue Andi even after their engagement TPTB is in on this...
Wow, that certainly would be low to try and break up a couple just to get the lead they might want. It's one thing if you knew they broke up so they could have a possible surprise ending like Mesnick but I just have a hard time thinking they'd do this.

I can understand why Nick said he didn't argue when he was let go because he was shocked he wasn't the one but then later I'm sure there were things that he thought about that he wished he'd said. I don't have a problem with him trying to get her a letter however I will hate it if it even comes up at ATFR which from the previews it will be like Arie's journal. Hated that at the time and I still hate it. Just let the F2 say their goodbye and lets get to the happy couple.

See, I can understand Nick sending a letter, but what I don't understand is the need to film Nick in his hometown and possibly filming Bella just for him to send that letter.

by Alanna Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:17 am

I dont think tptb are trying to break them up. Why cast Andi's perfect paper fit and not anticipate or at least plan for her falling for him chemistry-wise as well? He was cast primarily for Andi, and to be the lead secondary if she didn't choose him imo.

by Guest Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:40 am

I think the nick letter is going to be something very innocent. I think he's going to wish her luck and say I want you to be happy sort of thing. He may not even appear on the ATFR if they filmed that segment. I think it's clear that Andi is happy post show and the letter changes nothing. I don't believe Nick is going to give into producer temptation yet again, he's too smart for that. This is a way to repair his image w most. I hope this is the way it goes down. Despite my obvious love for Andi and Josh I really do like Nick. I'd probably rather see him as the bachelor than Chris honestly.

by 2observe Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:47 am

dpao84 wrote:I think the nick letter is going to be something very innocent. I think he's going to wish her luck and say I want you to be happy sort of thing. He may not even appear on the ATFR if they filmed that segment. I think it's clear that Andi is happy post show and the letter changes nothing. I don't believe Nick is going to give into producer temptation yet again, he's too smart for that. This is a way to repair his image w most. I hope this is the way it goes down. Despite my obvious love for Andi and Josh I really do like Nick. I'd probably rather see him as the bachelor than Chris honestly.

I really don't think the letter is from Nick since we haven't seen Andi reject him yet. So the letter is probably from Chris. I just mention this in the episode thread. ETA: So the letter doesn't explain why Nick was in LA during the filming of the MTA.

by Luvvy Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:54 am

I think the letter is from Chris B. Is it Monday, yet?

by Guest Sat Jul 19, 2014 11:57 am

cI feel like they won't show the letter at the men tell all and will be shown at the ATFR. Men tell all just gave them a chance to tape it. with the US weekly story and the plane video I think ABC just said let's give them something to think about. I do think the letter is from Nick

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