Re: Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Media Thread - Fan Forum - Discussion Thread #3

[Ash2214]

I remember during Sean's season there was a bunch of media and press, such as magazines, running with the theme that Sean had last minute "freak out" meetings with Catherine and Lindsay because he was torn and then he made his decision. Again, look how that turned out. That's what the media needs to do. They hype things up and by writing headlines such as this one then it gets people to go to their website/article.

Honestly, it's just my opinion, but the dramatic ending to this is that she lets one of the guys go the morning before the FRC. They have shown us that she has good relationships with each guy, so I think for most people, seeing her let one go before the FRC would be a shock. I personally think that it's Nick, but regardless, it's going to be a shock to most viewers. She'll get engaged to the other guy. We'll see Andi talk to whichever guy wrote her the letter. They'll discuss that and what happened with their relationship. I personally don't think the letter will be too much of a big deal to be honest. They're hyping it up. Then we'll see the happy couple.

[Ariela]

I'm not buying this "last minute" switch at all. Fleiss is trying to create drama. I recall the ad for when Catherine gave the letter to Sean. They were trying to make it sound as though Catherine was going to break up with him in the letter....

Andi has been all over Josh since their first date. She's completely different with him than any of the others. If she is displaying any doubts it's because she is being "an actress" for ABC. I cannot believe that the dumb media is running with it.

[GuardianAngel]

Speculation makes me speculate more! What if, there really was a letter given to her before the FRC but they had to get footage for it so they taped it before MTA?, and lets say it's from Nick, or vice versa Josh and he tells her if she's not choosing him then he wants to leave. To save her from letting him go, tell him ahead of time. Now "it could all blow up in my face". BTW, I've heard Nick say that as well at some point.

I A with everyone that it's for dramatic purposes, but how are they going to spin the meaning of the letter?

[isittrue]

I think maybe she does not choose anyone at least at FRC. Now what happens at the ATFR is anyone's guess but the SM and rumors still favor Josh as F1 so maybe this is just more drama.

[isittrue]

Speculation makes me speculate more! What if, there really was a letter given to her before the FRC but they had to get footage for it so they taped it before MTA?, and lets say it's from Nick, or vice versa Josh and he tells her if she's not choosing him then he wants to leave. To save her from letting him go, tell him ahead of time. Now "it could all blow up in my face". BTW, I've heard Nick say that as well at some point.

I A with everyone that it's for dramatic purposes, but how are they going to spin the meaning of the letter?

Or what if Nick left and she could not make a decision but Nick assumed she chose Josh hence the plane video. But in reality, she was waiting and the letter is from one or the other pleading for a chance or alternatively, bowing out of the race. The speculation can go on and on..

[GuardianAngel]

I think maybe she does not choose anyone at least at FRC.  Now what happens at the ATFR is anyone's guess but the SM and rumors still favor Josh as F1 so maybe this is just more drama.  

She looks very happy walking with CH, and yet she did a good job putting on her sad face when Mailman CH delivered the letter.

In that video, he tells her its from one of the F2 and he thinks she should read it, IIRC. But it doesn't give any indication as to when that was leaving the viewer thinking it was during the final episode. That's what got me thinking there really was a letter during the finale, even though we know it was given to her pre MTA taping. The location and timing was sleuthed, I can't see TPTB making Josh or Nick write a letter after the fact?

Was the letter from Catherine sleuthed? Is this a recycled script?

[umngirl]

I think maybe she does not choose anyone at least at FRC.  Now what happens at the ATFR is anyone's guess but the SM and rumors still favor Josh as F1 so maybe this is just more drama.  

She looks very happy walking with CH, and yet she did a good job putting on her sad face when Mailman CH delivered the letter.

In that video, he tells her its from one of the F2 and he thinks she should read it, IIRC. But it doesn't give any indication as to when that was leaving the viewer thinking it was during the final episode. That's what got me thinking there really was a letter during the finale, even though we know it was given to her pre MTA taping. The location and timing was sleuthed, I can't see TPTB making Josh or Nick write a letter after the fact?

Was the letter from Catherine sleuthed? Is this a recycled script?

Litta, along with others, figured out a great deal of the wording on the letter and compared writing samples to determine it was from Catherine. I never doubted it was from her, they passed notes all season, but watching them figure it out was entertaining and awesome.

[soccermom333]

I hope that's not the way it happened either. If it did, how would Josh feel knowing that she chose Nick, but changed her mind at the last minute.

However, this does fall in line with CH saying something like this never happened, or whatever it was that he said.

ETA: I suppose it's better than pulling a Mesnick, now that I think about it.

per the bold i don't think andi changed her mind at all. she's been calling josh babe since at least HTDs and has never called nick that. the producers are using the plane vid to shape the story which is rather bizarre but we will probably see more and more of this in future shows with the prevalence of SM & spoilers.

i believe andi will send nick home the morning of the FRC. she picks josh. all is well. then da da dun. the letter! right at the end of the FRC and cut to commercials. at the ATFR we see the whole thing with nick and the letter. does she even read it? who knows? maybe not. nick comes out, they talk. nick leaves. josh comes out and it's happy couple time. the end.

Gabriele you have the right scenario I believe! She lets Nick go early... Josh proposes and she says she loves him and accepts.... The note is brought up at the ATFR but Andi wants nothing to do with it because she would be disrespecting Josh.... Josh comes out and all is well.  :cutesmile!: 

[USAGold]

I hope that's not the way it happened either. If it did, how would Josh feel knowing that she chose Nick, but changed her mind at the last minute.

However, this does fall in line with CH saying something like this never happened, or whatever it was that he said.

ETA: I suppose it's better than pulling a Mesnick, now that I think about it.

per the bold i don't think andi changed her mind at all. she's been calling josh babe since at least HTDs and has never called nick that. the producers are using the plane vid to shape the story which is rather bizarre but we will probably see more and more of this in future shows with the prevalence of SM & spoilers.

i believe andi will send nick home the morning of the FRC. she picks josh. all is well. then da da dun. the letter! right at the end of the FRC and cut to commercials. at the ATFR we see the whole thing with nick and the letter. does she even read it? who knows? maybe not. nick comes out, they talk. nick leaves. josh comes out and it's happy couple time. the end.

Yes IMO I totally feel this is spot on!

Gabriele you have the right scenario I believe!    She lets Nick go early... Josh proposes and she says she loves him and accepts.... The note is brought up at the ATFR but Andi wants nothing to do with it because she would be disrespecting Josh.... Josh comes out and all is well.   :cutesmile!: 

[Alanna]

I hope that's not the way it happened either. If it did, how would Josh feel knowing that she chose Nick, but changed her mind at the last minute.

However, this does fall in line with CH saying something like this never happened, or whatever it was that he said.

ETA: I suppose it's better than pulling a Mesnick, now that I think about it.

per the bold i don't think andi changed her mind at all. she's been calling josh babe since at least HTDs and has never called nick that. the producers are using the plane vid to shape the story which is rather bizarre but we will probably see more and more of this in future shows with the prevalence of SM & spoilers.

i believe andi will send nick home the morning of the FRC. she picks josh. all is well. then da da dun. the letter! right at the end of the FRC and cut to commercials. at the ATFR we see the whole thing with nick and the letter. does she even read it? who knows? maybe not. nick comes out, they talk. nick leaves. josh comes out and it's happy couple time. the end.

Gabriele you have the right scenario I believe!    She lets Nick go early... Josh proposes and she says she loves him and accepts.... The note is brought up at the ATFR but Andi wants nothing to do with it because she would be disrespecting Josh.... Josh comes out and all is well.   :cutesmile!: 

I wonder if she'll read it. I would be so curious, even if I knew tptb had manipulated the guy into writing it! I would probably break down and read it. Maybe not if I with Josh though, he's a good deterrent from note-reading from other men

[GuardianAngel]

Litta, along with others, figured out a great deal of the wording on the letter and compared writing samples to determine it was from Catherine. I never doubted it was from her, they passed notes all season, but watching them figure it out was entertaining and awesome.

I remember that! I don't remember what the story line was around the letter. Did they make a big deal about the letter which supposedly was going to make for a shocking ending? I'm thinking maybe the letter is in fact from the F1 as it was in Catherine's case.

ETA: forget that. CH says its' from one of her F2

EETA: I'm confusing myself! When did Sean get Catherine's letter?

[nutty1]

Oh yes….it looked like he was getting terrible news, like someone wasn't going to show up.

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