Re: Andi Dorfman & Josh Murray - Media Thread - Fan Forum - Discussion Thread #3

[dw_a_mom]

How could Andi have changed her mind minutes before they were set to tape IF she let him go early.  The write up and what we are seeing is not matching up.

I agree that it's unlikely that Andi changed her mind while the guys were both being driven around in limos, which would be the only way she could REALLY have changed her pick at the "last minute".  And I personally don't believe she did anyway, but they could be using "at the last minute" as a figure of speech, and what happened was, Andi went to bed after her final LCD (with Nick, I guess), telling producers that he was her pick, then woke up the next morning having done a 180 overnight (that must have been some dream about Josh :giggle: ), at which time she convinced producers to allow her to act immediately on her new decision and let Nick go before the FRC took place (and before she changed her mind again   ).  And IMO, if it really happened like that, she had no business getting engaged to either one of them.  But I seriously doubt any of this is true, and I think that the magazine is just looking for a more sensational angle than what actually happened in order to sell more copies.

Remember one thing: these engagements are not real. They are made-for-TV. The real relationship doesn't start until the show is over. All Andi really is doing is deciding who she wants to seriously date.

Per Jason and Molly, couples will have spent less than 48 hours together before the proposal. They don't know each other well. That is what makes me believe that last minutes changes of mind actually ARE entirely possible. While most leads seem to reach certainty before the last dates, I could see how it might not be that way. It isn't about being in love with more than one person, it is about having chemistry with and seeing a possible future with more than person, enough to want to date them after filming is over.

[Di_ATL]

I think that would be terrible.  I don't want to see conflict at ATFR.  I just want to see a happy couple no matter if it's Josh or Nick.  

Either way they will have drama at the AFTR, as CH insist he will bring up tht lie detector test again and not this letter...Oh well CH, you aint dicoutning the love between Team Sushi.   

[dw_a_mom]

I just worry that she does in fact start to accept or even accept Nick's proposal at the FRC and then change her mind minutes later after ending Josh home - hard to watch.

Your speculations are so funny if one of them happens, it'll be bad I feel for my boys  

Oh gosh THAT would be AWFUL.

[nannymargie]

In my Tv Guide, CH is saying that Andi's  decision is not the ultimate ending and the true ending might be in the ATFR.  So does she put off getting engaged to F1 until the show ends or does she indeed pull a Mesnick or just typical CH talk?

I don't believe it.  Everything post show leads to them already leads to them already being engaged.  Do you think mama Murray would have a viewing party to show her son being blindsided on national TV.  She would be to broken hearted for her son.  This might be CH bringing up the da** lie detector test again.

[dw_a_mom]

In my Tv Guide, CH is saying that Andi's  decision is not the ultimate ending and the true ending might be in the ATFR.  So does she put off getting engaged to F1 until the show ends or does she indeed pull a Mesnick or just typical CH talk?

I think the key word is might not that she did

I think it is a tease to keep us watching. Maybe they will devise some cliff hanger, but I think the reality will be a lot less dramatic than suggested by the teasers.

[Guest]

I hope that's not the way it happened either. If it did, how would Josh feel knowing that she chose Nick, but changed her mind at the last minute.

However, this does fall in line with CH saying something like this never happened, or whatever it was that he said.

ETA: I suppose it's better than pulling a Mesnick, now that I think about it.

per the bold i don't think andi changed her mind at all. she's been calling josh babe since at least HTDs and has never called nick that. the producers are using the plane vid to shape the story which is rather bizarre but we will probably see more and more of this in future shows with the prevalence of SM & spoilers.

i believe andi will send nick home the morning of the FRC. she picks josh. all is well. then da da dun. the letter! right at the end of the FRC and cut to commercials. at the ATFR we see the whole thing with nick and the letter. does she even read it? who knows? maybe not. nick comes out, they talk. nick leaves. josh comes out and it's happy couple time. the end.

[Mirzam]

In my Tv Guide, CH is saying that Andi's  decision is not the ultimate ending and the true ending might be in the ATFR.  So does she put off getting engaged to F1 until the show ends or does she indeed pull a Mesnick or just typical CH talk?

I think the key word is might not that she did

They are hyping up the letter that she was given before the MTA, which of course will change absolutely nothing. She has been with her F1 for months now, and she isn"t changing her mind.

[GuardianAngel]

I hope that's not the way it happened either. If it did, how would Josh feel knowing that she chose Nick, but changed her mind at the last minute.

However, this does fall in line with CH saying something like this never happened, or whatever it was that he said.

ETA: I suppose it's better than pulling a Mesnick, now that I think about it.

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i believe andi will send nick home the morning of the FRC. she picks josh. all is well. then da da dun. the letter! right at the end of the FRC and cut to commercials. at the ATFR we see the whole thing with nick and the letter. does she even read it? who knows? maybe not. nick comes out, they talk. nick leaves. josh comes out and it's happy couple time. the end.

I hope that doesn't happen either. Give me all the drama before the Final Rose. I want to see a happy couple, live happily ever after, end of story. That would totally ruin it for me. JMHO

[Tiggerlgh]

I think he is tryng to hype the letter and that it might change something.  I don't see any change in the last two weeks no matter who the F1 is.

I could be wrong but I don't think they have a ton of drama this season or else they would be playing up what they had more and not manufacturing drama after the fact.

[Guest]

I hope that's not the way it happened either. If it did, how would Josh feel knowing that she chose Nick, but changed her mind at the last minute.

However, this does fall in line with CH saying something like this never happened, or whatever it was that he said.

ETA: I suppose it's better than pulling a Mesnick, now that I think about it.

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i believe andi will send nick home the morning of the FRC. she picks josh. all is well. then da da dun. the letter! right at the end of the FRC and cut to commercials. at the ATFR we see the whole thing with nick and the letter. does she even read it? who knows? maybe not. nick comes out, they talk. nick leaves. josh comes out and it's happy couple time. the end.

I hope that doesn't happen either. Give me all the drama before the Final Rose. I want to see a happy couple, live happily ever after, end of story. That would totally ruin it for me. JMHO

i agree. nick has been thru enough, but i think they will have to address this letter at some point because it wasn't just in a preview but at the end of the MTA.

[dw_a_mom]

I hope that's not the way it happened either. If it did, how would Josh feel knowing that she chose Nick, but changed her mind at the last minute.

However, this does fall in line with CH saying something like this never happened, or whatever it was that he said.

ETA: I suppose it's better than pulling a Mesnick, now that I think about it.

He'll be fine. He knows something we don't: that they are in a bubble, they don't really know each other, and TB engagements are for TV much more than for real life.

If he wants Andi, he will deal with her having trouble figuring things out. Molly just wanted Jason; that is why she was able to get over the Melissa pick. Josh just wants Andi. I'm sure that whatever it takes to get there, he'll find a way to deal with.

Unless they were never meant to be in the first place. Then he'll have issues with it all and that will be just one more nail in the coffin.

Nothing about this show is a normal situation.

[isittrue]

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i believe andi will send nick home the morning of the FRC. she picks josh. all is well. then da da dun. the letter! right at the end of the FRC and cut to commercials. at the ATFR we see the whole thing with nick and the letter. does she even read it? who knows? maybe not. nick comes out, they talk. nick leaves. josh comes out and it's happy couple time. the end.

I hope that doesn't happen either. Give me all the drama before the Final Rose. I want to see a happy couple, live happily ever after, end of story. That would totally ruin it for me. JMHO

i agree. nick has been thru enough, but i think they will have to address this letter at some point because it wasn't just in a preview but at the end of the MTA.

CH seemed to be pumping it in the TV guide I got saying her decision may not be the ultimate one but I don't think the letter changes anything.

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