Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #3

[Guest]

That's for sure. I hope we're on the same team again, Nutty.   :Nod: 

Here's the deal breaker for me- Andi calling Josh "babe". That may be the only thing I can't overlook. Everything else is subjective or could be manipulated but she said it more than once.

She called Marcus babe as well right before booting him off  

I can't recall...did she call Marcus "babe" or did she refer to him as "a babe?"  

ETA: Scratch the question.  

yeah, she called him babe (around 3:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2LAAInVBrA&index=12&list=PLkB4oXgMAPBNqjMEpB8_3NUadjGSBy1kA

[Guest]

I totally missed that with Marcus, murasaki. I cringed through that date knowing what was going to happen. Nice to see you & others are keeping the faith. I'd love it if you're right but just want Nick to be happy no matter what happens. He's certainly looking good in LA.   :Nod: 

IA that the stats were very cute, soccermom. Andi clearly enjoyed it. I think she also loved Nick's gift.

thanks albean..

im positive and optimistic by nature, yet rational by life and work experience....i just need to remember all is already said and done... Nick looking good and happy...All is good. ..I have made a lot of new friends this season, and had fun plus learned a lot with my sleuthing. Thats all that matter 

[Piper61]

She called Marcus babe as well right before booting him off  

I can't recall...did she call Marcus "babe" or did she refer to him as "a babe?"  

ETA: Scratch the question.  

yeah, she called him babe (around 3:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2LAAInVBrA&index=12&list=PLkB4oXgMAPBNqjMEpB8_3NUadjGSBy1kA

Thank you!

[mtnlvr55]

I can't recall...did she call Marcus "babe" or did she refer to him as "a babe?"  

ETA: Scratch the question.  

yeah, she called him babe (around 3:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2LAAInVBrA&index=12&list=PLkB4oXgMAPBNqjMEpB8_3NUadjGSBy1kA

Thank you!

IMO, this "babe" has a way different tone than the one she used with Josh. This felt more like "a babe" than you are my "babe" that she used with Josh. Hard to say.

[pander3575]

yeah, she called him babe (around 3:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2LAAInVBrA&index=12&list=PLkB4oXgMAPBNqjMEpB8_3NUadjGSBy1kA

Thank you!

IMO, this "babe" has a way different tone than the one she used with Josh. This felt more like "a babe" than you are my "babe" that she used with Josh. Hard to say.

That's the way I took it and we never saw her use it under just the normal times with the guys except with Josh. I'd probably call Marcus babe to if he'd just stripped for me.   

[Alanna]

yeah, she called him babe (around 3:00)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=h2LAAInVBrA&index=12&list=PLkB4oXgMAPBNqjMEpB8_3NUadjGSBy1kA

Thank you!

IMO, this "babe" has a way different tone than the one she used with Josh. This felt more like "a babe" than you are my "babe" that she used with Josh. Hard to say.

IMO all her reactions to Josh's gifts and attention and affection are different than other guys. When he gave her the roses and she called him babe, it wasn't just what she said but she was literally squealing and throwing herself at him. Even the baseball card thing, instead of bristling that he's already changed her last name like she did with Nick and the front runner comment, she is happy and giddy. Jmo.

[albean99]

Thank you!

IMO, this "babe" has a way different tone than the one she used with Josh. This felt more like "a babe" than you are my "babe" that she used with Josh. Hard to say.

IMO all her reactions to Josh's gifts and attention and affection are different than other guys. When he gave her the roses and she called him babe, it wasn't just what she said but she was literally squealing and throwing herself at him. Even the baseball card thing, instead of bristling that he's already changed her last name like she did with Nick and the front runner comment, she is happy and giddy. Jmo.

I see a lot of comments like this and it's hard for all of us to watch without bias but I don't see where Andi is so much more into Josh than she is with Nick. It's just different imo. It's also really hard to compare individual clips because that's all it is. Even the dates themselves are so choppy & short. I do think Andi picks Josh but also feel that no matter what she says after the fact, it was close between the guys.

[soccermom333]

Thank you!

IMO, this "babe" has a way different tone than the one she used with Josh. This felt more like "a babe" than you are my "babe" that she used with Josh. Hard to say.

IMO all her reactions to Josh's gifts and attention and affection are different than other guys. When he gave her the roses and she called him babe, it wasn't just what she said but she was literally squealing and throwing herself at him. Even the baseball card thing, instead of bristling that he's already changed her last name like she did with Nick and the front runner comment, she is happy and giddy. Jmo.

I agree Alanna! She is different with Josh and on their LCD she was in his lap and they were touching heads! There was also a pillow and she used her legs to "block" Nick. Body language was evident and even though she might have been conflicted before, from those 2 dates on, she knew she was picking Josh. IMHO

[FLChica]

IMO, this "babe" has a way different tone than the one she used with Josh. This felt more like "a babe" than you are my "babe" that she used with Josh. Hard to say.

IMO all her reactions to Josh's gifts and attention and affection are different than other guys. When he gave her the roses and she called him babe, it wasn't just what she said but she was literally squealing and throwing herself at him. Even the baseball card thing, instead of bristling that he's already changed her last name like she did with Nick and the front runner comment, she is happy and giddy. Jmo.

I see a lot of comments like this and it's hard for all of us to watch without bias but I don't see where Andi is so much more into Josh than she is with Nick. It's just different imo. It's also really hard to compare individual clips because that's all it is. Even the dates themselves are so choppy & short. I do think Andi picks Josh but also feel that no matter what she says after the fact, it was close between the guys.

Agree. Sometimes you can clearly see who the F1 is - Catherine, JP, Courtney - and sometimes you can't - Chris, Jesse, Melissa.  There are also times when the lead may have some serious explaining to do - Brad 2.0 comes to mind.  Or maybe Eric was right and MeAndi is just a good actress.

In the end MeAndi and her F1 will reap the financial benefits of being the new "it" couple, so it will ease the sting of what's shown on our screens.  I'll wager they won't bite the hand that's feeding them.  IMHO of course.

[soccermom333]

IMO all her reactions to Josh's gifts and attention and affection are different than other guys. When he gave her the roses and she called him babe, it wasn't just what she said but she was literally squealing and throwing herself at him. Even the baseball card thing, instead of bristling that he's already changed her last name like she did with Nick and the front runner comment, she is happy and giddy. Jmo.

I see a lot of comments like this and it's hard for all of us to watch without bias but I don't see where Andi is so much more into Josh than she is with Nick. It's just different imo. It's also really hard to compare individual clips because that's all it is. Even the dates themselves are so choppy & short. I do think Andi picks Josh but also feel that no matter what she says after the fact, it was close between the guys.

Agree. Sometimes you can clearly see who the F1 is - Catherine, JP, Courtney - and sometimes you can't - Chris, Jesse, Melissa.  There are also times when the lead may have some serious explaining to do - Brad 2.0 comes to mind.  Or maybe Eric was right and MeAndi is just a good actress.

In the end MeAndi and her F1 will reap the financial benefits of being the new "it" couple, so it will ease the sting of what's shown on our screens.  I'll wager they won't bite the hand that's feeding them.  IMHO of course.

I respectfully disagree.  I could see early on Andi was choosing Josh.  The edit, imo, pointed to it very early.  I also believe they will be the new "it" couple and more power to them if they "reap" the benefits.  They won't be the first and certainly not the last.  

[docnash14]

IMO, this "babe" has a way different tone than the one she used with Josh. This felt more like "a babe" than you are my "babe" that she used with Josh. Hard to say.

IMO all her reactions to Josh's gifts and attention and affection are different than other guys. When he gave her the roses and she called him babe, it wasn't just what she said but she was literally squealing and throwing herself at him. Even the baseball card thing, instead of bristling that he's already changed her last name like she did with Nick and the front runner comment, she is happy and giddy. Jmo.

I see a lot of comments like this and it's hard for all of us to watch without bias but I don't see where Andi is so much more into Josh than she is with Nick. It's just different imo. It's also really hard to compare individual clips because that's all it is. Even the dates themselves are so choppy & short. I do think Andi picks Josh but also feel that no matter what she says after the fact, it was close between the guys.

As you have said elsewhere, it's mostly all subjective. For me, of all of the seasons I have watched (opted out of a few), this season was one of the most obvious to me in that I saw Andi very different very early on with Josh. As she said during his HTD, she had her ups and downs with Josh due to her fear during which times she would pull back. So, in my opinion and has been stated by a couple of others, it was her own fear that kept others in consideration but once she was able to "know deep down" that Josh loved her, her final decision was made. And I think that happened in Tampa.

[USAGold]

IMO all her reactions to Josh's gifts and attention and affection are different than other guys. When he gave her the roses and she called him babe, it wasn't just what she said but she was literally squealing and throwing herself at him. Even the baseball card thing, instead of bristling that he's already changed her last name like she did with Nick and the front runner comment, she is happy and giddy. Jmo.

I see a lot of comments like this and it's hard for all of us to watch without bias but I don't see where Andi is so much more into Josh than she is with Nick. It's just different imo. It's also really hard to compare individual clips because that's all it is. Even the dates themselves are so choppy & short. I do think Andi picks Josh but also feel that no matter what she says after the fact, it was close between the guys.

As you have said elsewhere, it's mostly all subjective.  For me, of all of the seasons I have watched (opted out of a few), this season was one of the most obvious to me in that I saw Andi very different very early on with Josh.  As she said during his HTD, she had her ups and downs with Josh due to her fear during which times she would pull back.  So, in my opinion and has been stated by a couple of others, it was her own fear that kept others in consideration but once she was able to "know deep down" that Josh loved her, her final decision was made.  And I think that happened in Tampa.

IMO I agree totally that she knew it was Josh early on! I love Andi & I think she did a awesome job being the Bach ! She was open with the guys & she was considerate all while having to play the rules of taking 3 guys to the end. it has never been easy to eliminate the guys but she has done it with class !!
I am happy for her that she was able to fall in love with IMO Josh & accept his proposal love them together' & wish them a happy forever!!

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