Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #3

[Cecilia]

^^

Nick has not bashed her in any shape or form and as harsh as this may sound, he sure as heck spent more time with Josh than Andi did. He is perfectly entitled to his opinion. Andi(not MeAndi though) will probably understand Nick's bitterness. Let's hope for her own sake that MeAndi won't make an appearance at the ATFR.

Honestly, I very much doubt that Andi will be all to eager to confront Nick about anything at the ATFR.....
I reckon, she is going to be perfectly cordial and will NOT want to set Nick off at the ATFR...like, at all...  
She should be grateful for the great edit and move on with her life.

Absolutely! Thank you.

[Cecilia]

^^ ITA.  Can you imagine Nick asking the time honored question "When did you know?"

This is one season I really want to know the answer to that!

   

Can they ever be honest in this situation?

[eirekay]

sophienette wrote:
GuardianAngel wrote:
eirekay wrote:

^^ ITA. Can you imagine Nick asking the time honored question "When did you know?"

This is one season I really want to know the answer to that!

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Can they ever be honest in this situation?

No, but it's one of the first questions all the F2 (with the exception of Clare) ask. The Lead has plenty of time to think of how they want to answer and I'm sure that TPTB coach them with an acceptable response. Anything the Lead said in anger would surely cast a shadow on the happiness of the final outcome.

[ironcat]

To me, there is a BIG difference between expressing your honest, non-complimentary opinions about someone when you have just endured a major disappointment, and expressing non-complimentary opinions, which may not even be your own, about someone who has just endured a major disappointment, as part of some sort of "joke" or "fakeout". The former is perfectly understandable, the latter is kind of insensitive.

[sbolduc]

To me, there is a BIG difference between expressing your honest, non-complimentary opinions about someone when you have just endured a major disappointment, and expressing non-complimentary opinions, which may not even be your own, about someone who has just endured a major disappointment, as part of some sort of "joke" or "fakeout".  The former is perfectly understandable, the latter is kind of insensitive.

Agreed, for this reason, as a fan of Nick I hope the video is real, I strongly believe it is as it is consistent with everything he has shown us on the show.

[stuckinsc]

Thinking on F1 and F2, I do believe Andi was actually torn. Her reaction to both videos was very positive. I saw genuine chemistry on both FDs. They are very different men as CH's blog said.

Josh is what she knows, what she is comfortable with. I think he is a great guy. I hope if he is F1 as things point towards, that Andi continues to grow and that they work out. I really do like Josh, so if she is his happiness good for him.

Nick is that wow, I never thought someone like you existed for me. He is different and makes her feel different things than she is used to. Unfortunately, my gut before the season said Andi isn't moving to the midwest and I think at the end, Nick was just too much of an unknown. I don't know that she will regret if she lets him go, but I bet you that she will always think of him now and then. Not that she will want to go back, but he will be that, it was fun and amazing and a love like that is rare.

Two great guys in the F2. Either ending, I hope the men are happy. Andi can be happy if it makes the men happy, otherwise I don't really care about her.

[Beagle]

I seriously doubt that Andi finds anything remotely funny in either of the plane videos.  One of them totally spoiled the season and the other is negative about her man.

I would be livid that a show I gave my heart and soul to for a year was spoiled by one of the losers.

She and her future in-laws have been spoiling the whole season since it started airing. And THAT was done on purpose. Nicks spoilers were completely accidental.

[Guest]

I seriously doubt that Andi finds anything remotely funny in either of the plane videos.  One of them totally spoiled the season and the other is negative about her man.

I would be livid that a show I gave my heart and soul to for a year was spoiled by one of the losers.

She and her future in-laws have been spoiling the whole season since it started airing. And THAT was done on purpose. Nicks spoilers were completely accidental.

But they only started "spoiling" after the Nick video was released!

[emad0722]

I seriously doubt that Andi finds anything remotely funny in either of the plane videos.  One of them totally spoiled the season and the other is negative about her man.

I would be livid that a show I gave my heart and soul to for a year was spoiled by one of the losers.

She and her future in-laws have been spoiling the whole season since it started airing. And THAT was done on purpose. Nicks spoilers were completely accidental.

But they only started "spoiling" after the Nick video was released!

 True but let's be honest video or no video they would have "spoilt" the same way. The family and Andi like to promote the show and are more putting it out the people. I don't think that's a bad thing necessarily but gosh I would have loved some more mystery. I think that's why I loved Des's season because it was such a shock. I always liked Chris more but never thought he had a chance. 

I just hope everyone can be cordial and move on from this experience happy. Andi and her boy Josh as well as Nick and his family. My bet though is Nick will give her a subtle dig much like Andi has through SM at ATFR.

[Beagle]

I seriously doubt that Andi finds anything remotely funny in either of the plane videos.  One of them totally spoiled the season and the other is negative about her man.

I would be livid that a show I gave my heart and soul to for a year was spoiled by one of the losers.

She and her future in-laws have been spoiling the whole season since it started airing. And THAT was done on purpose. Nicks spoilers were completely accidental.

But they only started "spoiling" after the Nick video was released!

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Momma Murray was tweeting Hy even before the filming started, then came Easter, still filming, then the week of the FRC, still filming. All that before Nicks video, but my point is Nick did nothing on purpose on SM to reveal the ending. The others have.

[sdmom]

IMO, RS spoiled the ending days before the video made public. Nick never mentioned the show or Andy by name, and he never said who she picked, so how did he ruin the ending of the show?  He had his private conversations recorded, without his knowledge. How would he know he would be recognized before the show went on air,that he would be recorded and followed?  He probably should have waited he was alone to make the phone call, but let's face it, many people make private phone conversations in public, Nick is not the first one, and will not be the last one. So he made a mistake. I hope he will learn from it, just like most of us, learning and growing from our mistakes.
If people want to stay unspoiled, stay off RS and all SM, don't go into any spoiled sites, like our unspoiled friends do.
About what he said: yes, some of the things are not very nice, but remember: he was just dumped 2 days ago, of course he was hurt,  humiliated and heartbroken even, so what do people expect him to say? This was probably the first time in 2 months he was without a handler, so he got a little carried away. It's human nature to vent, I will have done the same, just to get off stream. If he had known someone was recording, he probably would have said something total different.
Nick is not perfect, and he definitely has flows, just like us. So I have sympathy for him.

[Alanna]

IMO, RS spoiled the ending days before the video made public. Nick never mentioned the show or Andy by name, and he never said who she picked, so how did he ruin the ending of the show?  He had his private conversations recorded, without his knowledge. How would he know he would be recognized before the show went on air,that he would be recorded and followed?  He probably should have waited he was alone to make the phone call, but let's face it, many people make private phone conversations in public, Nick is not the first one, and will not be the last one. So he made a mistake. I hope he will learn from it, just like most of us, learning and growing from our mistakes.
If people want to stay unspoiled, stay off RS and all SM, don't go into any spoiled sites, like our unspoiled friends do.
About what he said: yes, some of the things are not very nice, but remember: he was just dumped 2 days ago, of course he was hurt,  humiliated and heartbroken even,  and this was probably the first time in 2 months he was without a handler, so he got a little carried away. It's human nature to vent, I will have done the same, just to get off stream.
Nick is not perfect, and he definitely has flows, just like us. I have sympathy for him.

I don't think he has committed any grave act of evil either here. He was in a bad place and got caught publicly venting. Oh well. Not a huge deal if it wasn't a spoiler for the show.

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