Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #3

[ironcat]

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I don't know about Nick but I don't see Andi signing up for this, either being cool with her fiancé filming it or trashing the f2 whose heart she just broke. Tptb didn't purchase this girl into indentured servitude or get her on the human trafficking market on the set of Taken, she has free will here and can decide if she is ok looking like an idiot for choosing a guy that trashes her and also a B for letting this happen to her f2. And what should Andi's family think of her behavior? Not to mention how understanding the Murrays would be if this happened to their son. No more UGA gear for Hy probably  And if it's all to get Josh for Bach? Well he would be Bach no matter what if Andi didn't choose him, or more correctly, if he decided himself he didn't want Andi and wanted Bach instead.

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Especially posting from my iPhone where I always seem to be all thumbs! No way Andi would be cool with this even if she is in to mind games.  She cares about all of the guys and wouldn't have done it to any of them in my opinion.  How does that promote the live like Eric spirit? Please.  Again, for me it is warped.
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Agree with you both.  This definitely does not promote #LiveLikeEric at all.  Great point.  ;)

Couldn't agree more with all of you. After the normal outpouring of emotion and vulnerability that must come at the end of filming, combined with the Eric tragedy fresh on everyone's mind, the first thing (and really, they would have had to agree to this within hours of getting engaged) that Andi and her new fiance are going to be interested in doing is getting involved in a scheme to help the producers "fake out" the viewers, involving lying and badmouthing, rather than spending alone time with each other in a beautiful resort. The whole idea defies reason IMO.

[stuckinsc]

0 days is pretty messed up and warped if you ask me.  I may be naive, but I still believe the plane vid is real even though I can't precisely explain how it came to be captured.

I don't know about Nick but I don't see Andi signing up for this, either being cool with her fiancé filming it or trashing the f2 whose heart she just broke. Tptb didn't purchase this girl into indentured servitude or get her on the human trafficking market on the set of Taken, she has free will here and can decide if she is ok looking like an idiot for choosing a guy that trashes her and also a B for letting this happen to her f2. And what should Andi's family think of her behavior? Not to mention how understanding the Murrays would be if this happened to their son. No more UGA gear for Hy probably  And if it's all to get Josh for Bach? Well he would be Bach no matter what if Andi didn't choose him, or more correctly, if he decided himself he didn't want Andi and wanted Bach instead.

We are all entitled to our own opinion. I will say that the Andi from JPG's season chose to be good friends with two sarcastic, snarky women herself from that season. Kelly Travis is definitely both sarcastic and snarky and very proud of it and Andi adores spending time with her. Nikki is very confident and sarcastic as well. Andi considers her a bff. Sharleen is cerebral with a very biting wit and say it like it is. Andi herself has shown herself to be blunt and very sarcastic (Ess Okay tweet last season comes to mind).

So while some may find the plane video harsh or mean, we have no idea how Andi feels about it until she says something. My feelings about it aren't hers, but the woman I say on JPG's season and through social media is someone who is sarcastic and can take a joke and finds many things others might not to be funny.

[cindebugg]

I seriously doubt that Andi finds anything remotely funny in either of the plane videos.  One of them totally spoiled the season and the other is negative about her man.

I would be livid that a show I gave my heart and soul to for a year was spoiled by one of the losers.

[whit90]

I seriously doubt that Andi finds anything remotely funny in either of the plane videos.  One of them totally spoiled the season and the other is negative about her man.

I would be livid that a show I gave my heart and soul to for a year was spoiled by one of the losers.

In the first place Nick is not a loser. IMO. If you were just dumped and thought you were the F1 which at this time we really have no idea. You would be upset too. If it was me than I would of said a lot worse things about her for leading me on this entire time. The things he said about Josh I see those traits in him. IMO We really do not know the source of the video or how RS got it . If he had someone following Nick than I think Nick should be the one that is livid.

[kdubs_ca]

I seriously doubt that Andi finds anything remotely funny in either of the plane videos.  One of them totally spoiled the season and the other is negative about her man.

I would be livid that a show I gave my heart and soul to for a year was spoiled by one of the losers.

I'm like 99.9% sure the video is legit and Josh is the F1.  But I have like the worst intuition EVAH about this franchise.  Whoever I think is the winner is usually most definitely not.  Hint: That's an even worse sign for Josh than him not having a rendezvous weekend with Andi after the MTA.  

Is it at all possible that Josh's "temper" (which I have not really seen at all) became most apparent at the rejection?  What if he lit into Andi to the point that she would green light a spoiler video that was nasty to Josh?  I have to admit, the Cheetos, the trips to K-mart - that video might have been my favorite Bachelorette spoiler of all time.

I keep wondering if I've just been watching this season through the spoiler's filter.  I'll never forget Brad's hometown date with Emily; I laughed and laughed about the Brad shaped hole he left in her door.  I was SOOOO convinced that he couldn't wait to get out of there and was in love and engaged to Chantal.  LOL.  No.

Anyway, hope I'm wrong and that Andi and Josh are happily together with competitive juices flowing - they'll get to the altar faster than any other couple in franchise history and start popping out gorgeous child prodigies immediately.  They make my teeth hurt on screen together. Love them to bits.

[chloep]

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Nick has not bashed her in any shape or form and as harsh as this may sound, he sure as heck spent more time with Josh than Andi did. He is perfectly entitled to his opinion. Andi(not MeAndi though) will probably understand Nick's bitterness. Let's hope for her own sake that MeAndi won't make an appearance at the ATFR.

Honestly, I very much doubt that Andi will be all to eager to confront Nick about anything at the ATFR.....
I reckon, she is going to be perfectly cordial and will NOT want to set Nick off at the ATFR...like, at all...  
She should be grateful for the great edit and move on with her life.

[Alanna]

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. Poor Andi. :giggle: Nick has not bashed her any shape or form and as harsh as this may sound, he sure spent more time with Josh than Andi did. He is perfectly entitled to his opinion. Andi(not MeAndi though) will probably understand Nick's bitterness. Let's hope for her own sake that MeAndi won't make an appearance at the ATFR.

Honestly, I VERY much doubt that Andi will be all to eager to confront Nick about anything at the ATFR.....
I reckon, she is going to be perfectly cordial and will NOT want to set Nick off at the ATFR...like, at all...   

I think so too, actually. She has a tendency to totally shut down, shut off all emotions and get kind of a blank face once she's done with someone, and I'm expecting kind of icy politeness from her with Nick. He will probably try to rile her up though like Reid with Jill so it may get a little awkward, but nothing exciting.

[SueSt]

^^

Nick has not bashed her in any shape or form and as harsh as this may sound, he sure as heck spent more time with Josh than Andi did. He is perfectly entitled to his opinion. Andi(not MeAndi though) will probably understand Nick's bitterness. Let's hope for her own sake that MeAndi won't make an appearance at the ATFR.

Honestly, I very much doubt that Andi will be all to eager to confront Nick about anything at the ATFR.....
I reckon, she is going to be perfectly cordial and will NOT want to set Nick off at the ATFR...like, at all...  
She should be grateful for the great edit and move on with her life.

Assuming Josh is F1, your comments make sense. Still.... it's not over till it's over...

[eirekay]

chloep wrote:
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laugh out loud. Poor Andi. giggle Nick has not bashed her any shape or form and as harsh as this may sound, he sure spent more time with Josh than Andi did. He is perfectly entitled to his opinion. Andi(not MeAndi though) will probably understand Nick's bitterness. Let's hope for her own sake that MeAndi won't make an appearance at the ATFR.

Honestly, I VERY much doubt that Andi will be all to eager to confront Nick about anything at the ATFR.....
I reckon, she is going to be perfectly cordial and will NOT want to set Nick off at the ATFR...like, at all...
I think so too, actually. She has a tendency to totally shut down, shut off all emotions and get kind of a blank face once she's done with someone, and I'm expecting kind of icy politeness from her with Nick. He will probably try to rile her up though like Reid with Jill so it may get a little awkward, but nothing exciting.

^^ ITA. Can you imagine Nick asking the time honored question "When did you know?"

[GuardianAngel]

^^ ITA.  Can you imagine Nick asking the time honored question "When did you know?"

This is one season I really want to know the answer to that!

[Guest]

^^ ITA.  Can you imagine Nick asking the time honored question "When did you know?"

This is one season I really want to know the answer to that!

   

[happygolucky]

Nick has not bashed her in any shape or form and as harsh as this may sound, he sure as heck spent more time with Josh than Andi did. He is perfectly entitled to his opinion.

ooooooo ... FINALLY I read what I've been trying to communicate myself to everyone. I don't see any bashing in his comments (about Josh or Andi) ... just personal opinions and based on as little as we have seen so far on the show, it's not like he is missing the point (well, maybe in some things, but he sure knows more than we) and coming up with complete non-sense. Beside, daily we can read much worse offenses and much worse judgments and real negative opinions towards Nick, by people who never meet him, talked to him, lived with him, but the same people are enraged by the words he said about Josh (who he had a chance to interact with).

I'm not saying that we have to agree with him or think that his opinion is probably correct assessment of the characters he's talking about ... but to criticize him for expressing his opinion, when that's all we all do here on the forum or elsewhere ... well, I would have a name for that, but I'm sure there is some rule against it.

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