Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #3

[Guest]

Hope this is the right place to post this.  Someone reminded us in  Josh's fan thread  that Andi won't open the letter from her F2 at MTA.    That got me thinking...what if NICK contacted the producer and asked if he could come to MTA and give it to her??  Just an idea...that's why he was in LA and that's why the producer was in Milwaukee.   Maybe???

I really don't think he was at MTA taping. Chloe confirmed it. Besides, Nick was spotted in Venice, LA and then later in a farmers market (I am guessing in Santa Monica) late morning or early afternoon Saturday. Time-wise, he couldn't make it to MTA taping. Did he meet up with Andi before or after taping? Possible , but not during. IMO.

you forgot he was spotted at the grove which is just south of hollywood. assuming this letter is from nick he could have easily flown into the burbank airport and dropped the letter off wherever they film the MTA, glendale or hollywood, and then gone on his merry way to hang out all over LA. i think it is awfully coincidental that we are hearing of andi receiving a letter at the MTA on the exact day nick was in LA. we've also had nick post that pic with bella where he is looking down, kinda sad and he posted the tree sneak over pic on his twitter before that episode which was just strange to do. if this is all about nick not being able to get over andi then i do think the letter, etc are all producer driven.

[Cecilia]

Well, from the new Facebook preview, it looks like the F2 guy wrote her a letter recently because it appears she gets the letter before the MTA.

https://www.facebook.com/TheBachelorette?fref=photo

Yikes.

"a letter from the one she didn't choose"

soo here's a cynical take on what tptb are capable of having seen them put people's hearts through the ringer season after season (tho the participants of this wringing seem to lap it up with a side of fame and attention i guess   )
this is just a hypotetical scenario but it makes sense of some of the craziness flying around this season

1. nick's plane vid release was unprecedented - it goes out goes viral (OR tptb have it made and planted dun dun dun   )  
2. tptb sit around and create a "GET-BUZZ-up-for-this-show-from-the-beginning" plan - if the vid is a surprise they go into crisis aversion mode if it isn't they go into PR planning mode -- remember ALL publicity is good publicity so it essentially doesn't matter much for them as long as it lets them capitalize on the opportunity
3. tptb deploy a plan to optimize attention around the video
4. tptb create and deploy a storyboard that places Nick as the frontrunner who is hated - why frontrunner? cos it counters the plan video. why hated? cos you want people to NOT want her to pick him in the end + because bad publicity/villains are wonderful publicity for this show and lastly why show scenes that portray the connection with Andi making Nick the frontrunner ? cos nick was in love with her and disagreed with her choice and could be manipulated/convinced to go after her at any point to drive up buzz ESPECIALLY
5. play up all these elements of a redeemable villain whose connection is soo "real and true" on screen but was spoiled as F2 and nobody likes him is now in motion
6. The same plan is paralleled with a producer manupilation plan where nick and his handler/producer are in constant communication about how andi still loves him he should go after her blah blah blah (this is especially important if the video was indeed a leak unprecedented by the franchise)
7. then is set in motion when they suddenly switch the edit and Josh becomes a frontrunner and it sure looks like she might pick him but then when you thought you knew everything....
8. they get nick to write her a letter (which he might actually mean cos he sees their connection on screen play out) and go after her...convince him his contract requires that they continue to film his relationship so they find him in MKE
9. then nick's letter and he arrive in LA during MTA to dun dun dun.....create the biggest cliff hanger in bachelorette history EVER!!!! - can't you just see that cheese grin of MF/Millsy's with dollar signs in his eyes at this point
10. people continue to tune in till the AFTR for a season where spoilers could have been a wrench (or an orchestration) and there you have it...
whether someone finds love or not whether the story we see is the love story (or "infatuation" story) ...someone gonna get PAID reallyyy big...

THE END
 :strings1 

Good points!

[sdmom]

Hope this is the right place to post this.  Someone reminded us in  Josh's fan thread  that Andi won't open the letter from her F2 at MTA.    That got me thinking...what if NICK contacted the producer and asked if he could come to MTA and give it to her??  Just an idea...that's why he was in LA and that's why the producer was in Milwaukee.   Maybe???

I really don't think he was at MTA taping. Chloe confirmed it. Besides, Nick was spotted in Venice, LA and then later in a farmers market (I am guessing in Santa Monica) late morning or early afternoon Saturday. Time-wise, he couldn't make it to MTA taping. Did he meet up with Andi before or after taping? Possible , but not during. IMO.

you forgot he was spotted at the grove which is just south of hollywood. assuming this letter is from nick he could have easily flown into the burbank airport and dropped the letter off wherever they film the MTA, glendale or hollywood, and then gone on his merry way to hang out all over LA. i think it is awfully coincidental that we are hearing of andi receiving a letter at the MTA on the exact day nick was in LA. we've also had nick post that pic with bella where he is looking down, kinda sad and he posted the tree sneak over pic on his twitter before that episode which was just strange to do. if this is all about nick not being able to get over andi then i do think the letter, etc are all producer driven.

I don't know if he met up with producers or Andi in LA or not, but he tweeted this afterwards:
"Nothing I enjoy more than the company of people who challenge the way I view the world #grow"
It doesn't sound bitter to me, so hopefully he got the closure he needed.

[Cecilia]

But today he needs a hug

[sdmom]

^because of the article and this new preview, it's like opening the wound again, IMO.
Anyway, I've done my part and gave him cyber hugs already   

[bilolo]

The shout song is making sense maybe if you link it to these last developpments.
"i wish you would change your mind" or something like that as Cari pointed out.

[Guest]

I really don't think he was at MTA taping. Chloe confirmed it. Besides, Nick was spotted in Venice, LA and then later in a farmers market (I am guessing in Santa Monica) late morning or early afternoon Saturday. Time-wise, he couldn't make it to MTA taping. Did he meet up with Andi before or after taping? Possible , but not during. IMO.

you forgot he was spotted at the grove which is just south of hollywood. assuming this letter is from nick he could have easily flown into the burbank airport and dropped the letter off wherever they film the MTA, glendale or hollywood, and then gone on his merry way to hang out all over LA. i think it is awfully coincidental that we are hearing of andi receiving a letter at the MTA on the exact day nick was in LA. we've also had nick post that pic with bella where he is looking down, kinda sad and he posted the tree sneak over pic on his twitter before that episode which was just strange to do. if this is all about nick not being able to get over andi then i do think the letter, etc are all producer driven.

I don't know if he met up with producers or Andi in LA or not, but he tweeted this afterwards:
"Nothing I enjoy more than the company of people who challenge the way I view the world #grow"
It doesn't sound bitter to me, so hopefully he got the closure he needed.

oh, i don't think he met up with andi at all. why write a letter then? i do hope he has found closure. otherwise someone needs to do an intervention and keep him away from this show from messing with him any further. i just hope he doesn't become the next bachelor because i think they would just mess with his head some more. that would just be too much.

[Guest]

Hope this is the right place to post this.  Someone reminded us in  Josh's fan thread  that Andi won't open the letter from her F2 at MTA.    That got me thinking...what if NICK contacted the producer and asked if he could come to MTA and give it to her??  Just an idea...that's why he was in LA and that's why the producer was in Milwaukee.   Maybe???

I would think they wouldn't have walked all over MKE with him if that was the case.  If this was heartbreak, they would have just sat down and talked to him.  No reason to film him walking all over MKE.  But, anything is possible.

I love Emusha and Miahawk's posts on all of this. Maybe MF sent a crew to film Nick simply because he knew the tabs would pick up on it and he needed to create doubt / suggestion of drama after the plane vid spoiled the outcome.

Kasha and Nutty are gonna be so mad that they missed this part...

[stuckinsc]

Hope this is the right place to post this.  Someone reminded us in  Josh's fan thread  that Andi won't open the letter from her F2 at MTA.    That got me thinking...what if NICK contacted the producer and asked if he could come to MTA and give it to her??  Just an idea...that's why he was in LA and that's why the producer was in Milwaukee.   Maybe???

I really don't think he was at MTA taping. Chloe confirmed it. Besides, Nick was spotted in Venice, LA and then later in a farmers market (I am guessing in Santa Monica) late morning or early afternoon Saturday. Time-wise, he couldn't make it to MTA taping. Did he meet up with Andi before or after taping? Possible , but not during. IMO.

you forgot he was spotted at the grove which is just south of hollywood. assuming this letter is from nick he could have easily flown into the burbank airport and dropped the letter off wherever they film the MTA, glendale or hollywood, and then gone on his merry way to hang out all over LA. i think it is awfully coincidental that we are hearing of andi receiving a letter at the MTA on the exact day nick was in LA. we've also had nick post that pic with bella where he is looking down, kinda sad and he posted the tree sneak over pic on his twitter before that episode which was just strange to do. if this is all about nick not being able to get over andi then i do think the letter, etc are all producer driven.

The Grove was the day before taping.  He was at the farmers market and other places further from taping the day of.

[stuckinsc]

Hope this is the right place to post this.  Someone reminded us in  Josh's fan thread  that Andi won't open the letter from her F2 at MTA.    That got me thinking...what if NICK contacted the producer and asked if he could come to MTA and give it to her??  Just an idea...that's why he was in LA and that's why the producer was in Milwaukee.   Maybe???

I would think they wouldn't have walked all over MKE with him if that was the case.  If this was heartbreak, they would have just sat down and talked to him.  No reason to film him walking all over MKE.  But, anything is possible.

I love Emusha and Miahawk's posts on all of this. Maybe MF sent a crew to film Nick simply because he knew the tabs would pick up on it and he needed to create doubt / suggestion of drama after the plane vid spoiled the outcome.

Kasha and Nutty are gonna be so mad that they missed this part...

 

Emusha and Mia, both of your posts are very insightful.

To me if you didn't like Nick you automatically assume that he is the writer and it is begging her to reconsider.

The Nick chicks (sorry thought it was funny), we think it could be Chris, or I think it could be a sorry for the video.

Either way, again we don't really know and won't until July 28th.  It could end up being like the Sean Cat letter, sweet, but no big deal to the outcome.

But as Emusha said we are talking, rag mags are writing articles and suddenly people are excited for July 28th.  MF and TPTB win!

[MiaHawk]

Ok, so I just rewatched the video preview where they show Andi being handed the letter by CH. Regardless of who wrote the letter and what that letter said...

The way that preview is edited, they are trying to give the impression that Andi receives a letter from F2 and then we hear "I hope this doesn't blow up in my face" and then we see her crying in the rainy car. They are trying to make us think that this letter has changed her mind at the last moment and she makes F2 into F1.

The letter could very well be from a guy other than the F2. What doesn't make sense is that Andi is wearing a white dress when she is handed the letter by CH. During the taping of MTA she is wearing a black dress. And ATFR still has yet to be filmed. So, we don't even know when she was handed the note. Backstage at MTA when she first arrived? Who knows. I think it will be diddly squat, but they are just using it to create a possibility of a switcheroo by Andi in the final week. And none of us is falling for that.

[stuckinsc]

Ok, so I just rewatched the video preview where they show Andi being handed the letter by CH.  Regardless of who wrote the letter and what that letter said...

The way that preview is edited, they are trying to give the impression that Andi receives a letter from F2 and then we hear "I hope this doesn't blow up in my face" and then we see her crying in the rainy car.  They are trying to make us think that this letter has changed her mind at the last moment and she makes F2 into F1.

The letter could very well be from a guy other than the F2.  What doesn't make sense is that Andi is wearing a white dress when she is handed the letter by CH.  During the taping of MTA she is wearing a black dress.  And ATFR still has yet to be filmed.  So, we don't even know when she was handed the note.  Backstage at MTA when she first arrived?  Who knows.  I think it will be diddly squat, but they are just using it to create a possibility of a switcheroo by Andi in the final week.  And none of us is falling for that.

Honestly, I always thought Jason got extremely lucky that Molly didn't tell him she would rather be the bachelorette and find a guy who did not consider her second to Melissa. 

I can't see another lead taking that chance again.  In general, I do believe while leads probably often do love more than one person, something in them tells them to pick the one they did.  Except for Reid, I never thought another F2/F3 would really be a great choice for the lead.  Okay, maybe Frank but even then he was a bit of a coward to come of the show while still in love with someone else.

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