Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #3

[SueSt]

But they only started "spoiling" after the Nick video was released!

Actually, that's not the case... like, at all   ... Mama Murray spoiled Josh being a contestant before the M&G even took place(in an interview) and then spoiled how Josh got a HTD("having the whole family reunited again + one special person...")... this was while the show was still filming.   

Nick was filmed without his knowledge!!

or he was totally in on the foiler... take your pick!   

[Di_ATL]

Actually, that's not the case... like, at all   ... Mama Murray spoiled Josh being a contestant before the M&G even took place(in an interview) and then spoiled how Josh got a HTD("having the whole family reunited again + one special person...")... this was while the show was still filming.   

Nick was filmed without his knowledge!!

or he was totally in on the foiler... take your pick!    

So are we assuming, the tapes are a foiler to which TPTB would have had to pay someone to record and release as well. I'd like to think MF is calculating in that he wants to stick to RS, but this seems alittle far fetch, for them to have NICK call a friend, talk about the spoiler of F2 act mad, talk salty about Josh, etc, and also pay someone on a plane behind him to record it and then send to RS.

Wow if they went through this much then i'd say BRAVO to MF but i cant stand him so I am app to not believe even his crazy mind would be able to conjur up something like this, and that these vids, hold some truth. JMO

[Guest]

Nick was filmed without his knowledge!!

or he was totally in on the foiler... take your pick!    

So are we assuming, the tapes are a foiler to which TPTB would have had to pay someone to record and release as well. I'd like to think MF is calculating in that he wants to stick to RS, but this seems alittle far fetch, for them to have NICK call a friend, talk about the spoiler of F2 act mad, talk salty about Josh, etc, and also pay someone on a plane behind him to record it and then send to RS.

Wow if they went through this much then i'd say BRAVO to MF but i cant stand him so I am app to not believe even his crazy mind would be able to conjur up something like this, and that these vids, hold some truth. JMO    

Plus... plan weird little ribbons to give Josh during the season... and set up SM clues... now that's planing and they need an oscar   

[Di_ATL]

or he was totally in on the foiler... take your pick!    

So are we assuming, the tapes are a foiler to which TPTB would have had to pay someone to record and release as well. I'd like to think MF is calculating in that he wants to stick to RS, but this seems alittle far fetch, for them to have NICK call a friend, talk about the spoiler of F2 act mad, talk salty about Josh, etc, and also pay someone on a plane behind him to record it and then send to RS.

Wow if they went through this much then i'd say BRAVO to MF but i cant stand him so I am app to not believe even his crazy mind would be able to conjur up something like this, and that these vids, hold some truth. JMO    

Plus... plan weird little ribbons to give Josh during the season... and set up SM clues... now that's planing and they need an oscar   

That are low and behold Gold and Purple, which coincidentally are LSU colors and those he still wears today( i mean if Josh were final2 i would have immediately trashed those ribbon bracelets) ...Man MF would have really outdone himself this season if he truly pulled all this off.

[stuckinsc]

I'm not a fan of Andi.  I really enjoyed Kelly's humor during JPG's season.  I am surprised, given Kelly's taking offense of JPG's gay comments (which he apologized for) that she would use bipolar and pedophilia as a basis for a joke.  Even more surprised that she wouldn't delete the comments.  Even more surprised that Andi didn't respond to the tweets that complained about Kelly's comments.  They were watching the episodes together, live tweeting.  Andi knew what Kelly tweeted, imo.

Having said that, I like snark.  But snark can cross a line.  As I tell my boys, mental illness is never acceptable as a basis for a joke.

Great post and describes my opinion too. I loved Kelly on JPG's season. But her direct comments to Nick upset me. I have eased off the criticism since Nick himself has chosen to follow her, so like him, I am rising above. It has however made me change my opinion of her.

[stuckinsc]

I wrote this out in the Nick video thread, but feel like it belongs here too.


If anything the great relationship that developed between Andi and Nick is a huge compliment to Josh. If he is F1, Andi choosing him means that he is special enough to give up something really great for. I would prefer that to being the only thing that was acceptable. But to feel love with another person and still at the end of it all say, you are it for me, I want you and not him. To me that is much more special than some magical it was you and only you, because lets be honest. We all meet multiple people in our lives we are attracted to. But we make a choice to only be with one. If you never loved or were attracted to anyone else, then I may not have confidence when you do that you will be strong enough to resist. But having had great attraction and feelings and at the end of the day choosing me any way? That makes me very special and confident that I am the one for you.

[RollingEyes]

So....for clarification, the people here who are upset about Kelly calling Nick a pedophile on Twitter were also upset with Juan Pablo retweeting a joke using the R-word, right? You all attacked him for it too? Just checking. Because his retweeting of that joke was really offensive to some people, but a lot of people on these boards said people should lighten up, it was a joke, blah blah blah.

[Bet2Win]

So....for clarification, the people here who are upset about Kelly calling Nick a pedophile on Twitter were also upset with Juan Pablo retweeting a joke using the R-word, right?  You all attacked him for it too?  Just checking.  Because his retweeting of that joke was really offensive to some people, but a lot of people on these boards said people should lighten up, it was a joke, blah blah blah.  

I'm not deleting this post, but am posting a reminder ~ posts criticizing other posters opinions are not allowed. Thanks!

[stuckinsc]

I will just answer, that I understood that from a culture stand point what he posted might not have been intended to be offensive.  I also said that I felt he should have removed or apologized when he was informed of how it was offensive.  I also said that I hoped that when Nikki got her hands on him more permanently, that the nuturing pediatric nurse in her would teach him why that wasn't okay.  I will say since being with Nikki openly, I feel that JPG has improved in his SM use.  He has also done charity events to support those with different abilities, so he has tried to redeem himself.  At the time, I didn't tell anyone to have a sense of humor about it.   I felt that those who were offended had the right to be.

[eirekay]

wrote:
So....for clarification, the people here who are upset about Kelly calling Nick a pedophile on Twitter were also upset with Juan Pablo retweeting a joke using the R-word, right?  You all attacked him for it too?  Just checking.  Because his retweeting of that joke was really offensive to some people, but a lot of people on these boards said people should lighten up, it was a joke, blah blah blah.  ]

Yes, I wouldn't say "attacked" was thr right word, but, I did object.

[sdmom]

Did not watch last season. Did not follow JPG on SM

[Ash2214]

Not sure this belongs here, but I figured I'd post it here too in case people don't tread over to the contestant threads. RS just said he personally knows the person who recorded the video of Nick on the plane.

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