Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #5

by emusha Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:29 pm

gabriele First you'd have to overlook the fact that they flew out their storyboard producer i.e. tracks edit to story to follow plot, character development etc. - his presence in MKE of all places means he was there to guide filmiig for PLOT/character dev purposes which can't be done with the footage that currently exists....

If you choose to still overlook that -- how do tptb know which 10 of the 25 are going to be important to the bach/bachette before he/she has even met them??? Also you need these bios filmed edited and ready for prime time the very first show in the season (before everything else). In the past it is VERY obvious that these guys/girls are fresh and new to the show - sometimes they hear who the bach/bachette for the season is during their interviews/bio filming...in any case, we don't even need to debate this too much because what would be the need for a bio now to begin with when ATFR "looking back" footage can easily do that with events that happened throughout the season (I think that's actually what it is)

To me the involvement of the storyboard producers means only one thing...that they need additional footage to tell the story they want/need to tell and they can't work with preexisting footage to mash it up into the story they need -- the strangest part of this is that HTD are over and they obviously didn't need filler footage (highly unlikely it's for any filler footage at ALL with how much it costs to get a film crew out).... to me that means they did this filming for significant edit/plot shifts

I'd be totally surprised if they want to announce Nick as TB so soon if he's their pick plus there reports from chloep that it's down to a race between marquel and chris for TB

options as I see them now
1. nick is TB (highly unlikely due to bad edit? also insider info about marquel/chris)
2. nick is involved in a plot twist this season & they need new footage in MKE
Add to this the fact that Nick was in LA on this specific weekend and some strange "disappointed" vibe tweets from Joshover the past month...I'm increasingly feeling like something strange happened with this show

by Bet2Win Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:41 pm

I don't think he's a storyboard producer anymore; I think he's been promoted since that article.

by emusha Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:44 pm

Is that confirmed Bet2win I wonder to what role?

by rosesrREd Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:44 pm

emusha wrote:gabriele First you'd have to overlook the fact that they flew out their storyboard producer i.e. tracks edit to story to follow plot, character development etc. - his presence in MKE of all places means he was there to guide filmiig for PLOT/character dev purposes which can't be done with the footage that currently exists....

If you choose to still overlook that -- how do tptb know which 10 of the 25 are going to be important to the bach/bachette before he/she has even met them??? Also you need these bios filmed edited and ready for prime time the very first show in the season (before everything else). In the past it is VERY obvious that these guys/girls are fresh and new to the show - sometimes they hear who the bach/bachette for the season is during their interviews/bio filming...in any case, we don't even need to debate this too much because what would be the need for a bio now to begin with when ATFR "looking back" footage can easily do that with events that happened throughout the season (I think that's actually what it is)

To me the involvement of the storyboard producers means only one thing...that they need additional footage to tell the story they want/need to tell and they can't work with preexisting footage to mash it up into the story they need -- the strangest part of this is that HTD are over and they obviously didn't need filler footage (highly unlikely it's for any filler footage at ALL with how much it costs to get a film crew out).... to me that means they did this filming for significant edit/plot shifts

Yo
I'd be totally surprised if they want to announce Nick as TB so soon if he's their pick plus there reports from chloep that it's down to a race between marquel and chris for TB

options as I see them now
1. nick is TB (highly unlikely due to bad edit? also insider info about marquel/chris)
2. nick is involved in a plot twist this season & they need new footage in MKE
Add to this the fact that Nick was in LA on this specific weekend and some strange "disappointed" vibe tweets from Joshover the past month...I'm increasingly feeling like something strange happened with this show

You can't deny the fact a producer was in Milwaukee. That is huge. It can be spun anyway you like, but the taping has been over for 2 months now. If this was for filler, then why wait this long?

I agree with emusha, there is some kind of plot change. More than likely that Nick is the F1, or Andi did a Mesnick post season.

by umngirl Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:45 pm

emusha wrote:Is that confirmed Bet2win I wonder to what role?

He's listed as a Co-Executive Producer now.

by sbolduc Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:45 pm

^^ That is what I thought I read to, that he wasn't a Storyboard Producer anymore. Does anyone know what his position might be now?

by sbolduc Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:46 pm

umngirl wrote:
emusha wrote:Is that confirmed Bet2win I wonder to what role?

He's listed as a Co-Executive Producer now.

Thanks umngirl, would you be able to enlighten me as to what he would be in charge of or if someone else might know TIA! Smiley

by Guest Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:49 pm

@emusha, i was only responding to what i bolded in your post i.e. why all they guys don't have intro videos. the reason…it's too expensive! i don't think it's hard to tell in most cases who the most desired contestants will likely be considering they do extensive psychological profiling on all these folks. jmo.

as for what is currently happening with nick with this weeks activities? no idea.

by whit90 Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:53 pm

rosesrREd wrote:
soccermom333 wrote:
whit90 wrote:

If Andi is just fulfilling her commitment to ABC then she has a lot of explaining to do with Josh if he is her F1.

Why would she have to explain anything to Josh if he is her final 1? If he is , they probably see each other all the time. ;) They just had a safehouse visit on the fourth and more than likely will have one next weekend. IMO of course.

I believe that the poster was referring to the claim that Andi knew it was Josh in Belgium and had to act to get through the remainder of the show. Her point being her make out sessions with Nick seemed to go beyond fulfilling an obligation to ABC.

That is exactly what I meant you can not deny that she had strong feelings for Nick . The way they connect with each other on so many levels and the chemistry they have is not acting. IMO

by rosesrREd Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:53 pm

umngirl wrote:
emusha wrote:Is that confirmed Bet2win I wonder to what role?

He's listed as a Co-Executive Producer now.

That's even bigger than a storyboard producer.

by umngirl Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:54 pm

sbolduc wrote:
umngirl wrote:
emusha wrote:Is that confirmed Bet2win I wonder to what role?

He's listed as a Co-Executive Producer now.

Thanks umngirl, would you be able to enlighten me as to what he would be in charge of or if someone else might know TIA!

No idea. I just know that's what he's listed as. Perhaps someone more familiar with the BTS stuff can answer that.

by emusha Sun Jul 13, 2014 11:54 pm

Bet2Win wrote:I don't think he's a storyboard producer anymore; I think he's been promoted since that article.

according to IMDB he's a "supervising producer" that still doesn't change things much IMO...the fact that they flew out a whole crew to film Nick ($$$) doesn't sound like something they'd do just for kicks and giggles to create filler footage that just makes nick/milwakee "better presented with more footage"....it has to aid the storytelling somehow i.e. provide never before created footage of nick saying things on film that they never had IN MKE of all places and most importantly to fill a gap in the story plot so far (if that isn't so it doesn't make sense for them just to throw money out for no reason)...remember these are the guys that have thousands of hrs of footage and massage it to fit some crazy edits

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