Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Plane Vid - Discussion - *Spoilers*

by Jeepers Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:36 am

Oooo there are still lots of chances to continue to make Nick out as the not so good guy .. Right thrust to the FRC .. And after

by bilolo Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:37 am

nd4reality wrote:
sdmom wrote:I agree Nick's edit is terrible. However, we still have a few episodes to go. TPTB could start soften his edit and redeem him tomorrow. I will wait and see.

Yes particularly since the other guys are away now and everything is solo from this point forward.

Whatever I say about Nick is his edited persona so I don't want folk to jump on my comments. Nick has been shown to be all the negative things mentioned on this board from episode 2 onwards when he got his first 1on1 date. Even then the guys had their flag up and the edit showed it by showing conversations about Nick. That is never a good thing in the world of TB.
Keeping that in mind - hoping for a complete turn in edit may be wishful thinking. But we can home.

Yeah let's hope but reading a tweet that someone posted yesterday saying Nick told her mom "i think i'm her favorite" is not going to help imo. They'll continue to make him the arrogant Nick who will marry the girl.

PS : of course we're all talking about the edited version of these guys here because we don't know them personally.

by nd4reality Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:39 am

^^^ exactly the edited version.
Yeah I agree I don't see the edited arrogance letting up in the HTDs.

by luvlady345 Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:41 am

Cecilia wrote:If Andi had picked Nick they would have given him a better edit. To me it's that simple. And then there's the video. IMO of course.

See that is what I am getting at, the edit could have been much different take Ashley's JP he was very confident but his edit was seen as a hero and the love of Ashley's life why because he was her F1... I am not saying anything about Nick in RL because we know nothing about any of these guys in RL but what we are seeing of Nick is not pretty edit wise.... If Josh and Nick are the F2 they already had their storyline will she go for her type or not, Nick's edit didn't have to go so far to the left imo.....

by Cecilia Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:41 am

janeh810 wrote:
sdmom wrote:I agree Nick's edit is terrible. However, we still have a few episodes to go. TPTB could start soften his edit and redeem him tomorrow. I will wait and see.

I agree. The most vocal guy, Brian, has left. On Monday we will see the HTDs which will hopefully soften Nick's image. Then, only 3 remain and they are separated from each other, except at the RC. Then, just 2, separated until the RC. Can't see much chance of negativity about Nick.

I'm hoping it gets better!!

by Hotmomma Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:43 am

For me Nick's edit is terrible.he really hasn't said anything terrible about the guys.I don't recall even in PI he didn't " backstabbed" anyone..and he is just going after Andi and she seems to enjoy it.and almost rewards with extra time.

And even now in his SM he seems to be very confident.JMO.

I just don't see him as a " villain" per say.

by janeh810 Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:44 am

Have there been past seasons where the edit of the HTDs (and beyond) were a wrecking ball for the "villain"? I'm haven't watched many seasons.

by Luvvy Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:44 am

In terms of edits, however, I remember Ed having a bad edit. Not in the villain sort of way, but just in that it was not favorable, especially with the swirling rumors about his love life and cheating drama. TPTB did not help calm the flames, instead made him pay. So I'm saying I don't think having a bad edit eliminates Nick 100% from being F1, but obviously it is stacked against him.

by luvlady345 Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:46 am

Kashathediva wrote:
janeh810 wrote:I guess I don't understand. So, Nick cannot be the F1 because the general public doesn't like Nick and, that historically, TPTB don't allow a villain edit for the Bachelorette F1, so as to please the viewers? Do you think that TPTB could break with history to fool the general public, this time? Can TPTB tell Andi who to choose? Can they control who she falls in love with? The bottom line is who Andi will stay with the longest, after the show.

Personally, I think Nick is professionally a go-getter as a sales executive. He also says he comes from a large family, "If you don't ask for it, you don't get it." Nick has the edge, strategically. Jealousy is rampant on these shows. That's how TPTB like it, editing for the drama and the villain perception, which lasts for the duration for the show. Then, these guys are buddies afterwards.

BTW, I am a Josh fan. And, I think Andi went with her heart, not her brain and what she thought was in her best interests. I am just playing the devil's advocate, here. Have to catch up on the posts above.
FWIW, there have been several "villians"(I dislike that descriptive term) who have been F1. Vienna and Courtney both brought home the prize.

YEP, like I stated before until they change their pattern the women can and will be shown as b's, skanks and catty messes but so far in the history of the bachelorette that has never happen even ED even though most suspect that the TPTB knew he left a string of women behind and left to clear up things with at least one, wasn't given a terrible edit.

by bilolo Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:47 am

janeh810 wrote:
sdmom wrote:I agree Nick's edit is terrible. However, we still have a few episodes to go. TPTB could start soften his edit and redeem him tomorrow. I will wait and see.

I agree. The most vocal guy, Brian, has left. On Monday we will see the HTDs which will hopefully soften Nick's image. Then, only 3 remain and they are separated from each other, except at the RC. Then, just 2, separated until the RC. Can't see much chance of negativity about Nick.

I see them showing him talk about how he'll marry Andi have kids with him, invite the other guys rofl

I swear they'll show him in his PIs showing some more "arrogance". Why would they tone it down ? They're mad at him because of the video and they'll continue to tarnish him til the end (feel so bad, hope i'm wrong).

by Alanna Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:49 am

nd4reality wrote: ^^^ exactly the edited version.
Yeah I agree I don't see the edited arrogance letting up in the HTDs.

Me either. It's too tempting for tptb- the cockiest contestant ever getting his comeuppance at the frc?! It perfect drama.

It does make me a little sad that he believed he was so in love with her and thought that she was his soulmate and cried about her and their relationship. Meanwhile he had no idea that she's really unattracted to mantears and is actually bending over backwards to win josh, who calms and soothes her tears over him instead. Yikes, watching this back cannot be pretty for him. SMH.

by sbolduc Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:52 am

I think they will continue to show his "confidence" or "arrogance" whatever you want to call it. But I do think it will be hard to not soften the edit when his main issue was with the guys. Unless one of them comes back and tells her she will make a big mistake I think it has to soften.

They will will continue to set him up as overly confident and making him "know" he is the one, only to have be dumped at the end.

I think even Courtney's date post-HT's were softened (except for Kacie coming back).

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