Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #4

[stuckinsc]

I still think Nick has a good head on his shoulders, judging by his tweets #lifeoutsidethebubble now he's back to the real world. Clearly no one likes group dates, even Josh, I guess they just reacted to it differently. I remember back in Brad I, Bettina's dad said someone has to be the bad guy after her horrible HTD. In this season, TPTB  picked Nick, maybe them sensed his sarcastic humor  could easily lost to others in such unnatural environment, or his way over eagerness to cooperate to get more time with Andi, who knows? Take another cue from the man himself: you have #takethegoodwiththebad. Nick I hope it's worthwhile and you have no regrets.

Okay, so as someone who has probably had too much education, yes sadly this is my combined ninth years of graduate school, add five years of undergrad and way too much education. Nick has the sarcastic humor I see a lot with people who are well educated, I think that is why he and JJ clicked. JJ is incredibly well educated as well, Stanford business school is no joke. There is also a bit of arrogance that comes with being well educated and very good at what you do. I sprained my ankle last Wednesday and it is not getting better, so my doctor decided to send me for an x-ray to make sure that there wasn't something serious wrong. When I told my hubby this over the phone he questioned it and was totally annoying. I had to remind him he has a PhD in Chemistry not an MD, so I was going to go with the MD's advice. I frequently tell my otherwise nice and generous husband that he doesn't know everything.

Maybe I like Nick because he reminds me of so many men that I do know. Plus, I think at this point of the show he was over it and ready to just focus on Andi and nothing else. Compare him to JP in episode 7 of Ashley's season, really go watch it. Both highly intelligent, successful men competing for an intelligent woman and both so over the whole process of being around the other guys. Don't just try to remember it, go watch it. Watch Lucas trash talk JP, watch Ben and Constantine get annoyed with JP. Ames didn't get annoyed, but then again I am not sure Ames gets annoyed. Ryan P was let go early, so he wasn't in most of the scenes. Nick this week is so much like JP then.

Does Nick win the girl? I hope not. Between Kelly's tweets, Andi's desire to jump Josh and her MeAndi behavior, I don't want that for Nick.

But it makes me less annoyed by this behavior.

Of and BTW, Nick said last night that he watched all of Des's season. Not sure if he had seen others.

I do think this is just Nick and what I also notice is that these guys that were so angry with him, seem very happy to be around him now. Brian and he skype now each Monday night during the show right? Chris visited with him in Chicago, just maybe they realized that their own tiredness and crankiness made them take Nick a little too seriously?

[stuckinsc]

Did Nick really watch every season of Bachelor/ette? Did he really know it inside out? He should have joined the board to learn TPTB dirty tricks.
Remember he has some wicked sense of humor and not everyone would appreciate it. That clip is kind of funny but also makes it hard for me to defend him. And the expression on Brian's face!I so wish the whole thing will be over soon for Nick and his family.  

i think one of the guys said he watched 2 seasons but not positive about that. nick said he watched des' season. however much he watched i think he only knew just enough to shoot himself in the foot. he should have taken his cue from Cat. she knew when to not get into house drama.

Actually Cat did get into the house drama, just not to the extent that the two queen drama queens Tierra and AshLee did. Again, go watch clips don't just rely on memory.

[janeh810]

Is Josh friends with any of these guys, now? Maybe, Brian, Chris and Nick are part of the "Andi didn't pick me" club. They have at least that in common.

[nd4reality]

Is Josh friends with any of these guys, now? Maybe, Brian, Chris and Nick are part of the "Andi didn't pick me" club.  They have at least that in common.  

That is one way of thinking about it. They have all bonded because they were all rejected ?
Or they are friends because they want to be in the winners inner circle.

[janeh810]

Time will tell!

[FLChica]

To state the obvious - there will be 24 guys in the "MeAndi didn't pick me" group.  Heck, let's include Chris B (even though he was trolling for a BIP invite) and make it 25!

[sdmom]

I still think Nick has a good head on his shoulders, judging by his tweets #lifeoutsidethebubble now he's back to the real world. Clearly no one likes group dates, even Josh, I guess they just reacted to it differently. I remember back in Brad I, Bettina's dad said someone has to be the bad guy after her horrible HTD. In this season, TPTB  picked Nick, maybe them sensed his sarcastic humor  could easily lost to others in such unnatural environment, or his way over eagerness to cooperate to get more time with Andi, who knows? Take another cue from the man himself: you have #takethegoodwiththebad. Nick I hope it's worthwhile and you have no regrets.

Okay, so as someone who has probably had too much education, yes sadly this is my combined ninth years of graduate school, add five years of undergrad and way too much education.  Nick has the sarcastic humor I see a lot with people who are well educated, I think that is why he and JJ clicked.  JJ is incredibly well educated as well, Stanford business school is no joke.  There is also a bit of arrogance that comes with being well educated and very good at what you do.  I sprained my ankle last Wednesday and it is not getting better, so my doctor decided to send me for an x-ray to make sure that there wasn't something serious wrong.  When I told my hubby this over the phone he questioned it and was totally annoying.  I had to remind him he has a PhD in Chemistry not an MD, so I was going to go with the MD's advice.  I frequently tell my otherwise nice and generous husband that he doesn't know everything.  

Maybe I like Nick because he reminds me of so many men that I do know.  Plus, I think at this point of the show he was over it and ready to just focus on Andi and nothing else.  Compare him to JP in episode 7 of Ashley's season, really go watch it.  Both highly intelligent, successful men competing for an intelligent woman and both so over the whole process of being around the other guys.  Don't just try to remember it, go watch it.  Watch Lucas trash talk JP, watch Ben and Constantine get annoyed with JP.  Ames didn't get annoyed, but then again I am not sure Ames gets annoyed.  Ryan P was let go early, so he wasn't in most of the scenes.  Nick this week is so much like JP then.

Does Nick win the girl?  I hope not.  Between Kelly's tweets, Andi's desire to jump Josh and her MeAndi behavior, I don't want that for Nick.

But it makes me less annoyed by this behavior.

Of and BTW, Nick said last night that he watched all of Des's season.  Not sure if he had seen others.

I do think this is just Nick and what I also notice is that these guys that were so angry with him, seem very happy to be around him now.  Brian and he skype now each Monday night during the show right?  Chris visited with him in Chicago, just maybe they realized that their own tiredness and crankiness made them take Nick a little too seriously?  

I LOL at the bolded part. Your husband cares about you very much, you are very lucky indeed.
The other thing about Andi: last night before RC, Nick was upset, probably exhausted mentally, as he talked to Andi. She struck me as not very nurturing, at least at that moment. I wonder if she can give as much as she receive?

[Litta123]

Somehow dog name Murray doesn't bother me that much, maybe because the Murrays are dog lovers? Anyway, everyone is different.
Brian and Chris were not very likable last night, either. They whined too much. Good thing they are all friends now and Brian is very supportive of Nick.

I would really like to know how that happened. How did Brian (or Chris) overcome his negative feelings towards Nick? I have a hard time seeing this happen if Nick is F1. If Nick "lost" Andi, I could see the guys re-bonding over their shared loss. Would it make sense for Brian/Chris to be so forgiving if Nick gets the girl in the end? The only way I can see this happening is if those guys doubted Nick's sincerity towards Andi and thought he just wanted to win.

If they realized later Nick was truly in love, maybe they could forgive him for his comments and tactics...but then it would also mean Nick has told them the true outcome. Wouldn't that be a violation of his contract? (This is making the assumption that Nick's video was a deliberate foiler.)

Sooo...the bottom line for me is that Nick's renewed friendship post show with the guys who spoke out so harshly against him is indicating Nick is not F1...my interpretation of it all.

[Guest]

Nick's strategy Page:

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/news/extras/140701-nicks-strategy

[stuckinsc]

Somehow dog name Murray doesn't bother me that much, maybe because the Murrays are dog lovers? Anyway, everyone is different.
Brian and Chris were not very likable last night, either. They whined too much. Good thing they are all friends now and Brian is very supportive of Nick.

I would really like to know how that happened. How did Brian (or Chris) overcome his negative feelings towards Nick? I have a hard time seeing this happen if Nick is F1. If Nick "lost" Andi, I could see the guys re-bonding over their shared loss. Would it make sense for Brian/Chris to be so forgiving if Nick gets the girl in the end? The only way I can see this happening is if those guys doubted Nick's sincerity towards Andi and thought he just wanted to win.

If they realized later Nick was truly in love, maybe they could forgive him for his comments and tactics...but then it would also mean Nick has told them the true outcome. Wouldn't that be a violation of his contract? (This is making the assumption that Nick's video was a deliberate foiler.)

Sooo...the bottom line for me is that Nick's renewed friendship post show with the guys who spoke out so harshly against him is indicating Nick is not F1...my interpretation of it all.

I don't know who F1 is this season. I can totally believe all the spoilers as Alana has pointed out Andi is totally gaga over Josh. My hesitation in believing the spoilers is the pure volume of spoilers. There are just so many little titbits out there all pointing to Josh. Either TPTB really doesn't give a darn anymore or this is the best foiler campaign ever. And if it is, then heck lets have a Chris and Marcus F1 and F2. Hopefully Chris wins, as I think Marcus deserves better. I haven't seen Andi go all MeAndi on Chris, so as of right now I would be okay with her picking him.

[soccermom333]

Somehow dog name Murray doesn't bother me that much, maybe because the Murrays are dog lovers? Anyway, everyone is different.
Brian and Chris were not very likable last night, either. They whined too much. Good thing they are all friends now and Brian is very supportive of Nick.

I would really like to know how that happened. How did Brian (or Chris) overcome his negative feelings towards Nick? I have a hard time seeing this happen if Nick is F1. If Nick "lost" Andi, I could see the guys re-bonding over their shared loss. Would it make sense for Brian/Chris to be so forgiving if Nick gets the girl in the end? The only way I can see this happening is if those guys doubted Nick's sincerity towards Andi and thought he just wanted to win.

If they realized later Nick was truly in love, maybe they could forgive him for his comments and tactics...but then it would also mean Nick has told them the true outcome. Wouldn't that be a violation of his contract? (This is making the assumption that Nick's video was a deliberate foiler.)







Sooo...the bottom line for me is that Nick's renewed friendship post show with the guys who spoke out so harshly against him is indicating Nick is not F1...my interpretation of it all.

I don't know who F1 is this season.  I can totally believe all the spoilers as Alana has pointed out Andi is totally gaga over Josh.  My hesitation in believing the spoilers is the pure volume of spoilers.  There are just so many little titbits out there all pointing to Josh.  Either TPTB really doesn't give a darn anymore or this is the best foiler campaign ever.  And if it is, then heck lets have a Chris and Marcus F1 and F2.  Hopefully Chris wins, as I think Marcus deserves better.  I haven't seen Andi go all MeAndi on Chris, so as of right now I would be okay with her picking him.

We see the clues because we are obsessed and sleuth them out.    The casual viewer see a few spoilers maybe but not the "pure volume" we see. imo

I respect your opinion, I really do, but just trying to keep it real.   

[stuckinsc]

Nick's strategy Page:

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/news/extras/140701-nicks-strategy

This reminds me of this.  Listen to Nikki starting around 3:30.  Sorry, I love Nikki and I love Nick too!

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