Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #4

[SueSt]

If some people think the Nick video is a plant by TPTB, why can't TPTB encourage some nasty comments in SM, in order to stir up some reactions among viewers of SM? Just a thought, a long shot.  But, who knows what else TPTB do to manipulate?  

  who knows

[ironcat]

I haven't been following the tweets, but why in the world would Kelly call Nick a pedophile anyway? Seems totally incongruous. Is Andi 12?   

[Cecilia]

I remember when JP did a vlog in defense of Ashley.  More could be said from Andi, for sure.

Are they allowing them to do those vlogs anymore?  I haven't heard any.  I agree with Kasha, that neither Andi or Josh are in a position to start a vigorous defense of Nick even if they wanted to yet.  The other guys sure seem to be taking up the slack so good for them.   

It doesn't need to be vigorous. One tweet.

[SueSt]

I haven't been following the tweets, but why in the world would Kelly call Nick a pedophile anyway?  Seems totally incongruous.   Is Andi 12?   

I wasn't following them either, but read them after seeing the post in this thread ironcat. Beyond mean and narcissistic for Andi to allow it to occur - TOTALLY different opinion of Andi as a result.

[SueSt]

I remember when JP did a vlog in defense of Ashley.  More could be said from Andi, for sure.

Are they allowing them to do those vlogs anymore?  I haven't heard any.  I agree with Kasha, that neither Andi or Josh are in a position to start a vigorous defense of Nick even if they wanted to yet.  The other guys sure seem to be taking up the slack so good for them.   

It doesn't need to be vigorous.   One tweet.

yup  

[noobsleuth]

I probably should put this in a different thread, but since editing is being discussed here:

I haven't watched the last 3 episodes.  I have been having a good time with all of the post show stuff, but last nights seemed like a real doozey so I might have to breakdown and buy it on itunes....

With that said, as wrong as it may be, I wonder if TPTB will use Eric's death and the news hitting the guys and Andi to change up a few of the edits/storylines. All of sudden everyone's living the day like it's their last type of stuff. It's pretty dark, but I wouldn't put it past MF. They can't just go on with the show and act like his death isn't going to have any affect on Andi or the men he lived with for a bit.

[stuckinsc]

I haven't been following the tweets, but why in the world would Kelly call Nick a pedophile anyway?  Seems totally incongruous.   Is Andi 12?   

I like Kelly and she was one of my favorite parts of JPG's season, but her twitter feed last night was not cute. And Andi shows her class again by being right there with her. Harks back to making fun of JPG and Ess Okay. They really are the mean girls. Why is Nikki friends with these people?

[sdmom]

I just tweeted Kelly that she should delete that tweet because it's not funny or classy to call someone pedophile.
Can she get into trouble legally by what she implied?

I understand Andi had to lead someone on, I also understand if Josh is f1 and the video is true that she is angry. I have no problem with either situation.  However, to see one of your friends call someone creepy, bipolar and pedophile ? Is that necessary? I totally agree birds of same feathers flock together. What does it say about Andi? At least she should tell Kelly to delete that offensive comment.
I don't want Nick to be Andi anymore. FreeNick!

[wandb]

I posted this in the episode thread too, but I thought I'd bring it over here for discussion as well.

What about this scenario?

Chris' edit reminds me of Chris S. hometown edit during Des' season- many people thought there was no way he was F1. But this time, if they are promoting him for the bachelor, they've done him a HUGE disservice. I think where he lives will be difficult to sell (Think Zak on the oil rigs).

I don't think they will go with Marquel because it screams of JPG - not enough screen time. Viewers don't know him well enough.

I have no idea why Marcus didn't do it. He's definitely getting the edit - lovable guy, vulnerable, deserves love, etc...

I think it could be Nick as F1 and Josh as the next Bach. The video is the only thing I can't get past, but what about this? What if the video is cut off? What if Nick is describing the whole process? What if, when he said stuff like "she went with what she knew" and "Josh will do whatever she wants" he was just talking about being in the final 2 with him? What if he was just pointing out their differences? What if, after that, he talked about the FRC and her changing her mind? What if Andi did pick Josh, but changed her mind before they left DR?

I just can't see Chris as the next Bach. Only Josh makes sense. Perhaps Nick could get it too, but they'd have to redeem him (I like him, BTW, despite his edit).

Food for thought.

[stuckinsc]

I just tweeted Kelly that she should delete that tweet because it's not funny or classy to call someone pedophile.
Can she get into trouble legally by what she implied?

I understand Andi had to lead someone on, I also understand if Josh is f1 and the video is true that she is angry. I have no problem with either situation.  However, to see one of your friends call someone creepy, bipolar and pedophile ? Is that necessary? I totally agree birds of same feathers flick together. What does it say about Andi? At least she should tell Kelly to delete that offensive comment.
I don't want Nick to be Andi anymore. FreeNick!

sdmom, welcome to my camp! I do wonder if Andi's stay classy last night was directed at Kelly. But I think the Mean Girls pic from before the season is pretty accurate.

I want better for Nick than Andi and her mean girl friends.

Okay this will sound mean, but I would love for Stanford educated JJ to put Kelly in her place after this. If her highest recommendation is that this isn't her first season, way to go. You are a proud fameho.

[SueSt]

I just tweeted Kelly that she should delete that tweet because it's not funny or classy to call someone pedophile.
Can she get into trouble legally by what she implied?

I understand Andi had to lead someone on, I also understand if Josh is f1 and the video is true that she is angry. I have no problem with either situation.  However, to see one of your friends call someone creepy, bipolar and pedophile ? Is that necessary? I totally agree birds of same feathers flick together. What does it say about Andi? At least she should tell Kelly to delete that offensive comment.
I don't want Nick to be Andi anymore. FreeNick!

sdmom, welcome to my camp!  I do wonder if Andi's stay classy last night was directed at Kelly.  But I think the Mean Girls pic from before the season is pretty accurate.

I want better for Nick than Andi and her mean girl friends.

Okay this will sound mean, but I would love for Stanford educated JJ to put Kelly in her place after this.  If her highest recommendation is that this isn't her first season, way to go.  You are a proud fameho.

Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, than to speak and remove all doubt.
- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)

[stuckinsc]

I just tweeted Kelly that she should delete that tweet because it's not funny or classy to call someone pedophile.
Can she get into trouble legally by what she implied?

I understand Andi had to lead someone on, I also understand if Josh is f1 and the video is true that she is angry. I have no problem with either situation.  However, to see one of your friends call someone creepy, bipolar and pedophile ? Is that necessary? I totally agree birds of same feathers flick together. What does it say about Andi? At least she should tell Kelly to delete that offensive comment.
I don't want Nick to be Andi anymore. FreeNick!

sdmom, welcome to my camp!  I do wonder if Andi's stay classy last night was directed at Kelly.  But I think the Mean Girls pic from before the season is pretty accurate.

I want better for Nick than Andi and her mean girl friends.

Okay this will sound mean, but I would love for Stanford educated JJ to put Kelly in her place after this.  If her highest recommendation is that this isn't her first season, way to go.  You are a proud fameho.

Tis better to be silent and be thought a fool, is better than to speak and remove all doubt.
- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)

Words of wisdom. It seems JJ avoided the bait last night anyway.

I still don't want Andi to pick Nick if this is how her friends speak about him.

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