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Post by Guest Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:32 am

notarose wrote:Sometimes Nick & Andi's storyline reminds me of "50 First Dates"
Every time they reunite, they experience their last first kiss.

LOL..this season is sooo Movie-ish, said someone who is a genius  bestbud!  :

--Cody-Andi Date : Letter to Juliet
--Ep.6 Cocktail Party, Guys Entrance : The Godfather
--the coming Pottery Scene of Chris-Andi : Ghost
--what else?

Im surprised TPTB has become THAT creative!.. giggling 

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Post by luvlady345 Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:34 am

jjinkc wrote:
murasaki1393 wrote:
jjinkc wrote:They have been going with this "Nick is the frontrunner" storyline from the beginning. Over in Josh's thread, someone posted the mini clips of the guys intro's and Hy's interacting with the guys. I had never seen any of those so I scrolled through, looking for Nick and noticed the title of his clip is "the front runner is established". They have definitely been hammering it into our minds that he's the frontrunner. Why? Does anyone remember when it was so blatantly presented, for someone in the f2? Not what fans of a certain person see (ie. the real love story) , but the actual edit naming someone as such?

what i learned from Des's season :

in the season full of foilers...they will show us the full, comprehensive, scripted in detail Wuv Story....i have 'proved' it on Des's season, and i see the same thing with this season. No one will buy the wuv story, since they buy the spoilers. In this season, TPTB even going more gung-ho with :
1. like you have never seen before foilers   2. The creepiest edit as possible for the F1.  3.The F1 is the 'elephant the room'...with obvious connection
4. Josh has already huge fan base, its safer for TPTB to showcase him as the spoiled F1 to attract more viewers. Not to mention, it serves as a good platform as he is possibly in the running for the next lead.

in the Bach series, where Fleiss could care less about the spoilers, they tend to hide the F1 since the spoilers are correct: Catherine and Nikki for example.

we may need to respectfully agree to disagree till July 28th.  yes 

Actually, Nick is my favourite. I am undecided whether it's a "win", though, to be F1. It's hard to get a good read as to what Andi is really like because of her edit. l saw glimpses of a snarky humour on JPG's season and I think that's why she was friends with Nikki, Sharleen and Kelli. THAT Andi I can see with Nick and think they would mesh well.

My question was really why are they so blatantly trying to make us dislike one of the F2, albeit there is no proof he's in the F2 outside of RS. I just always thought they wanted a sympathetic F2, so you don't know who will be picked. Who wants the girl to get the jerk? My gut feeling is what are they trying to hide? Are we being distracted by the "edited" Nick that most are discounting the fact that Andi is loving what Nick is doing so when she chooses him in the end, one can go back and see that she did? The fact that in spite of his edit, and all the Tricky Nicky previews, CH and Andi talk positively about him in their blogs is what gets me thinking there's more. There usually isn't an opportunity to back the bus over someone that is missed by CH, so why haven't we seen that? If they were mad about the video, he would be getting skewered by CH.

So, maybe we don't disagree at all bestbud!

BUT, the thing with this the average viewer are not reading Andi's or CH blogs, LOL I don't even read them an I call myself a hardcore fan of the series, so why has Nick edit taken on such a turn? The girls in my office who watch the show and not internet website users dislike Nick an I imagine will dislike him even more after Monday, so you will have to ask why would TPTB want this edit of Nick? It's not that it was so obvious that Nick would be F1 most unspoiled viewers have Marcus, Josh and Nick vying for that spot, so why this edit?


 

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:45 am

IMO Nick`s edit is circulating in 2 obstacles :
1. internal : him being skeptical..and his nature to always find out/knowing where he stands (in life, in love).
2. external : the bullsye in his back . he is targeted by the other guys since the FIR.

he basically has no problems with Andi and their relationship is progressing on each  episode. while Josh OTOH has communication and trust problems with Andi. JMOAA

Fleiss will do almost everything for the rating. As the vet here said, Ian, the F1 (who has an early connection with Meredith as well), was also thrown under the bus, including his brother. The things one does for money sad. So..basically, nothing new.

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Post by luvlady345 Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:51 am

LOL, this is not Ian and Meredith the reason for Ian edit was because it was sooooooooo obvious that Meredith was ONLY into Ian, he got the chemistry and physical edit, untrustworthy edit .......


 

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Post by Guest Sat Jun 28, 2014 10:55 am

luvlady345 wrote:LOL, this is not Ian and Meredith the reason for Ian edit was because it was sooooooooo obvious that Meredith was ONLY into Ian, he got the chemistry and physical edit, untrustworthy edit .......

so..you dont think Andi is soo into Nick ONLY as well? and Nick didnt get any chemistry and physical edit? giggling .

again, we need to respectfully agree to disagree till July 28th  yes 

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Post by bilolo Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:01 am

It's clear that Andi is not into one guy only whether we're a fan of them or not imo.
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Post by luvlady345 Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:03 am

murasaki1393 wrote:
luvlady345 wrote:LOL, this is not Ian and Meredith the reason for Ian edit was because it was sooooooooo obvious that Meredith was ONLY into Ian, he got the chemistry and physical edit, untrustworthy edit .......

so..you dont think Andi is soo into Nick ONLY as well? and Nick didnt get any chemistry and physical edit? giggling .

again, we need to respectfully agree to disagree till July 28th  yes 

PLEASE, NOPE........Everyone an their mother is saying how Josh can't be F1 because he is only getting the physical and chemistry edit LOL and how Nick has the emotional/mental connection edit with Andi........... So now Nick has the physical/chemistry edit also OK...


 

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Post by ironcat Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:20 am

Ian's edit was nowhere near as bad as Nick's edit. Ian wasn't the "hated" one in the house as they are trying to make Nick out to be; and that's the kind of edit that has fans hating on one of the contestants. Fans weren't hating on Ian, from what I recall, many were swooning over him, even if they didn't believe he would really commit to Meredith. Big difference with what's happening with Nick, IMO.

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Post by Alanna Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:23 am

ironcat wrote:Ian's edit was nowhere near as bad as Nick's edit.  Ian wasn't the "hated" one in the house as they are trying to make Nick out to be; and that's the kind of edit that has fans hating on one of the contestants.  Fans weren't hating on Ian, from what I recall, many were swooning over him, even if they didn't believe he would really commit to Meredith.  Big difference with what's happening with Nick, IMO.
Iirc Ian was the sexy, dangerous, oh so wrong but ooooh so right badboy vega bond, not shifty eyed Tricky Nicky. Whatever Nick is like in real life, they're not leaving this edit up to interpretation.


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Post by Beagle Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:33 am

ironcat wrote:Ian's edit was nowhere near as bad as Nick's edit.  Ian wasn't the "hated" one in the house as they are trying to make Nick out to be; and that's the kind of edit that has fans hating on one of the contestants.  Fans weren't hating on Ian, from what I recall, many were swooning over him, even if they didn't believe he would really commit to Meredith.  Big difference with what's happening with Nick, IMO.

I was one of the ones that was drooling over Ian from the moment he came out of the limo ( he was the edited last exit like Josh was), to me I see Andi more frustrated over Josh the way Meredith was frustrated over Ian. At one point Meredith threatened Ian that she was not going to give him a rose if he didn't open up more. It was a constant struggle with those two but the passion was there. Ian also was an introvert like Marcus, keeping to himself in the mansion.
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Post by Longhornfan Sat Jun 28, 2014 11:58 am

jjinkc wrote:They have been going with this "Nick is the frontrunner" storyline from the beginning. Over in Josh's thread, someone posted the mini clips of the guys intro's and Hy's interacting with the guys. I had never seen any of those so I scrolled through, looking for Nick and noticed the title of his clip is "the front runner is established". They have definitely been hammering it into our minds that he's the frontrunner. Why? Does anyone remember when it was so blatantly presented, for someone in the f2? Not what fans of a certain person see (ie. the real love story) , but the actual edit naming someone as such?

Could you possibly direct me to where (within Josh's thread) that I can see those mini clips of the guy's intros and Hy's interacting with the guys? I would appreciate it. Thanks!!

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Post by jen689 Sat Jun 28, 2014 12:08 pm

Longhornfan wrote:Could you possibly direct me to where (within Josh's thread) that I can see those mini clips of the guy's intros and Hy's interacting with the guys?  I would appreciate it.  Thanks!!
Hulu has 109 clips ABC has posted. You have to scroll through to find them since they are some of the first ones posted.

http://www.hulu.com/the-bachelorette

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