Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #4

[notarose]

Could there be a thread created just for the plane vid?  
I just feel that it seems to dominate and that discussion about Nick & Andi per episode recedes in the background.

Anyone else agree?

[mtnlvr55]

If Elan was the handler for Nick I would certainly know that it was something Bachelor related. I would be on the lookout to see who he was with and if I could hear: sitting next to the person he was with I could pick up that he was a contestant on the show.  Elan would be the biggest tip off in the entire Bachelor franchise: he's pretty distinctive. 

[Jen15]

  

Could there be a thread created just for the plane vid?  
I just feel that it seems to dominate and that discussion about Nick & Andi per episode recedes in the background.

Anyone else agree?

[sbolduc]

If Elan was the handler for Nick I would certainly know that it was something Bachelor related. I would be on the lookout to see who he was with and if I could hear: sitting next to the person he was with I could pick up that he was a contestant on the show.  Elan would be the biggest tip off in the entire Bachelor franchise: he's pretty distinctive. 

I thought Élan was Brian's handler.... I feel like Chloep mentioned that. So he could have been at the end but I didn't think this was confirmed. Also if Élan was the handler isn't that a clue Nick was F2 I believe if u look at the history Élan is more often than not the handler to the F2 (ie Arie, Lindsay, Jason etc)

[Guest]

Could there be a thread created just for the plane vid?  
I just feel that it seems to dominate and that discussion about Nick & Andi per episode recedes in the background.

Anyone else agree?

It's Friday   
Not a whole lot of new stuff to discuss about Andi with Nick.   
And the video is quite pertinent to Nick's story line, whether it is a spoiler or a foiler.

[Guest]

If Elan was the handler for Nick I would certainly know that it was something Bachelor related. I would be on the lookout to see who he was with and if I could hear: sitting next to the person he was with I could pick up that he was a contestant on the show.  Elan would be the biggest tip off in the entire Bachelor franchise: he's pretty distinctive. 

I thought Élan was Brian's handler.... I feel like Chloep mentioned that. So he could have been at the end but I didn't think this was confirmed. Also if Élan was the handler isn't that a clue Nick was F2 I believe if u look at the history Élan is more often than not the handler to the F2 (ie Arie, Lindsay, Jason etc)

Who has been reportedly the handler for F1? Anyone know?
Or is there no rhyme or reason to who gets to babysit handle  chaperone whom?

[jen689]

Not a whole lot of new stuff to discuss about Andi with Nick.   
And the video is quite pertinent to Nick's story line, whether it is a spoiler or a foiler

  
Especially when production calls him Tricky Nicky who readily participates in Sneak Overs  

[Guest]

Not a whole lot of new stuff to discuss about Andi with Nick.   
And the video is quite pertinent to Nick's story line, whether it is a spoiler or a foiler

  
Especially when production calls him Tricky Nicky who readily participates in Sneak Overs  

Jen did you see the preview video of Nick asking the hotel clerk for the key?
What did you think of it?

Especially seeing that he NEVER even needed/used the key  

[GuardianAngel]

Plane vid thread

[notarose]

Could there be a thread created just for the plane vid?  
I just feel that it seems to dominate and that discussion about Nick & Andi per episode recedes in the background.

Anyone else agree?

It's Friday   
Not a whole lot of new stuff to discuss about Andi with Nick.   
And the video is quite pertinent to Nick's story line, whether it is a spoiler or a foiler.

Understood however I detect a pattern over the past weeks and would like to suggest an alternative location.


  

Plane vid thread

[Ash2214]

Wow JordynRoses- What a great and in depth post! I'm bored and refuse to fill out any more applications and resumes, so I'm going to just post a few thoughts.

One thing I've always been confused about is why was RS foiled last season? I remember not long after Brooks' first 1-on-1 date with Des he wrote about it and said that she had been really interested in him since night one and that he wouldn't be surprised if he made it far. I also remember around half way through we got a similar update. She was crazy about Brooks, which was obviously true as we saw that throughout the season. When he announced the spoiler that Brooks was F1 I believed him because he had told us through filming that she was crazy about him.

As I watched the season I literally remember thinking that there was no way in hell she was going to end up with him. I knew she had strong feelings for him, but even on their first 1-on-1 date he was seemingly not into it or her. Throughout the whole season I thought this. What made me believe it even more was that they would literally show us Des saying "I'm in love with Brooks, but Chris is right behind him" and even when they showed us her interactions with Chris, everything about it seemed genuine and editing made it seem that way even more. Heck, when they played their song "Love and Affection" on every single one of their dates I knew she was going to end up with him. There was no doubt in my mind. I even emailed RS and he completely shut me down. But here's the thing - I don't know how he gets his information, but I don't think anyone foiled him last season with the information either. We saw it clear as day - Des was crazy about Brooks and it seems to me that he just got lazy with it. He was told Brooks was the winner and he believed it because he had been hearing that throughout filming she was hooked on Brooks.

In my opinion anyway, it certainly doesn't seem like he had a ton of information in regards to Brooks being the F1. He just told us, but never showed us. And considering this is his job - I firmly believe that if he just stopped being a lazy ass, and actually paid attention to the season, he could have easily seen that things were off, something was going to happen and she was not going to end up with Brooks. I don't think that editing of Des' season in the least bit pointed to Des ending up with Brooks. She might have picked him, but I never thought he'd go through with it. Even on their first date and up until hometowns Brooks was showing he just wasn't interested in the process or Des herself - or at least to the extent that he needed to be.

Basically my points are that anything is possible. I genuinely do enjoy reading everyone's posts, especially the possibility of all of this being a foiler. In my opinion I just don't see producers and Mills and Fleiss going to this extent. There have been so many things we have seen. Between the video, snap chat, and a certain family getting involved throwing out their own clues, I just can't see this many people going to the great lengths they have just to fool RS and the spoiled viewers. But if it is one, then wow. I applaud everyone involved.       

Also, trust me when I say this is not a defense of RS LOL. It's just my thoughts

[notarose]

About the next epi, are we sure Nick gets the GD rose?  
Are there any unaccounted for SCs that would identify him with Andi at the possible GD 1-1 location?
In epi 1, Nick talked about having been a father figure for quite a while. Why not a mother figure as there are 11 children and if all are actual siblings by blood then mom Mary would be the one preoccupied with infant care? HTDs are coming up.  Time for each guy to reveal more.

Do you think we'll be hearing more about Nick and/or Andi's families?

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