Re: Nick Viall - Bachelorette 10 Contestant - Spoilers - Discussion - Thread #4

[sdmom]

Mura, great minds think alike!
About clues pointing to Josh, there's still somethings I feel unresolved: who is this Brittany baby that was his #1 on snapchat? What about the tinder account? Anyone knows ? Some of his tweets don't , IMO, show a happily in love man : Live without excuses. Dwell on what you can do. "Shake off self-pity & concentrate on being everything you were created to be." "'Don't think of the things you didn't get after praying. Think of the countless blessings God gave you without asking.' #Thankful#Blessed"
Anyway it's probably just me thinking too much.

[jen689]

...who is this Brittany baby that was his #1 on snapchat? What about the tinder account?  Some of his tweets don't , IMO, show a happily in love man : Live without excuses. Dwell on what you can do. "Shake off self-pity & concentrate on being everything you were created to be." "'Don't think of the things you didn't get after praying. Think of the countless blessings God gave you without asking.' #Thankful#Blessed"

Because of everything you've mentioned I seem to go back and forth between Nick and Josh as F1.  I guess it's time to "Let it Go" and enjoy the rest of the season.  It'll all become clear on July 28th  

[Guest]

Mura, great minds think alike!
About clues pointing to Josh, there's still somethings I feel unresolved: who is this Brittany baby that was his #1 on snapchat? What about the tinder account? Anyone knows ? Some of his tweets don't , IMO, show a happily in love man : Live without excuses. Dwell on what you can do. "Shake off self-pity & concentrate on being everything you were created to be." "'Don't think of the things you didn't get after praying. Think of the countless blessings God gave you without asking.' #Thankful#Blessed"
Anyway it's probably just me thinking too much.

personally speaking, i dont put too much stock on the SM clues, since i realize there is a Puppet Master behind all of those SM activities of the cast...not to mention they LOVE to smack our head!.... :P  

remember Brooks and Des tweeted at the same time?....  . so..yeah...pls Fleiss just   

[SueSt]

For the record, I like Nick and what I've seen of him so far.
I haven't seen ANYTHING yet that I would think makes him a person of evil intentions, insincere character or whatever else they are trying to conjure up about him.
I really do believe that TPTB are doing a 'number' on his edit for some reason.
Why?
Ratings? Maybe.
Payback? Possibly.
Make the others look better since they always need some sort of a villain and all the guys are just too nice this season. (No villain material this time around in the final 8.)

Granted, Nick has a certain smugness that imo is part of his skeptical nature.
Smugness also shows in his body language. This may also be perceived as being arrogant but also as being aloof, or cautious.
IE. He is not as flagrant in his PDA /affections towards Andi (as Josh is) when he is in a crowd / in public.
He may be more aware that he is 'on camera' and therefore holds back from extreme or overt PDA.

I don't believe that he is arrogant but that he is confident, especially in regards to how he perceives his standing with Andi.
Confident people can be wrong btw. But being wrong doesn't make one arrogant.
He may have overestimated his relationship with her but that still does not make him arrogant.

He is also the oldest one of the bunch, and actually 8 years older than Marcus.
This may or may not have some bearing on the pecking order.

The way TPTB spliced and diced his confrontation with Cody in the previews was much different that what actually transpired.
We saw Nick apologize and be genuinely friendly with Cody.
I am thinking that these latest previews are similar - spliced and diced to create drama and put Nick in a negative light.
And once again, the question begs to be asked, "WHY?"
Really, WHY are the editors working soooo hard to make Tricky Nicky the villain when we know he hasn't done anything (that they have showed us) that is so dastardly.

I like all of the final 6 guys.
I like Andi.
The final 4 all seem to be good guys imo and I don't think she could go wrong with any of them.
FRC will be a win-win for her and for Fleiss I believe.

In the meantime, I love turning over every stone. Never know what surprises can pop up.

JordynRoses, such a good analysis... and the best question - WHY, WHY, WHY are the editors working so hard to make Nick the villain?? I mean its obvious after his Venice date that he has Andi's "support" :-) At the end of that date, she basically says she's fallen in love with him... and her reaction to his "first-grab" move at the Ep 6 rose ceremony was again (among other things ;-)) completely supportive. On the group date in Episode 7 previews we see how happy she is to see him..... AND she gives him the GDR ensuring that he will have a HTD. Also, in his latest blog, CH is supportive of Nick... Sooooooooooo, again, it begs the question - what's with the edit?

[Guest]

For the record, I like Nick and what I've seen of him so far.
I haven't seen ANYTHING yet that I would think makes him a person of evil intentions, insincere character or whatever else they are trying to conjure up about him.
I really do believe that TPTB are doing a 'number' on his edit for some reason.
Why?
Ratings? Maybe.
Payback? Possibly.
Make the others look better since they always need some sort of a villain and all the guys are just too nice this season. (No villain material this time around in the final 8.)

Granted, Nick has a certain smugness that imo is part of his skeptical nature.
Smugness also shows in his body language. This may also be perceived as being arrogant but also as being aloof, or cautious.
IE. He is not as flagrant in his PDA /affections towards Andi (as Josh is) when he is in a crowd / in public.
He may be more aware that he is 'on camera' and therefore holds back from extreme or overt PDA.

I don't believe that he is arrogant but that he is confident, especially in regards to how he perceives his standing with Andi.
Confident people can be wrong btw. But being wrong doesn't make one arrogant.
He may have overestimated his relationship with her but that still does not make him arrogant.

He is also the oldest one of the bunch, and actually 8 years older than Marcus.
This may or may not have some bearing on the pecking order.

The way TPTB spliced and diced his confrontation with Cody in the previews was much different that what actually transpired.
We saw Nick apologize and be genuinely friendly with Cody.
I am thinking that these latest previews are similar - spliced and diced to create drama and put Nick in a negative light.
And once again, the question begs to be asked, "WHY?"
Really, WHY are the editors working soooo hard to make Tricky Nicky the villain when we know he hasn't done anything (that they have showed us) that is so dastardly.

I like all of the final 6 guys.
I like Andi.
The final 4 all seem to be good guys imo and I don't think she could go wrong with any of them.
FRC will be a win-win for her and for Fleiss I believe.

In the meantime, I love turning over every stone. Never know what surprises can pop up.

JordynRoses, such a good analysis... and the best question - WHY, WHY, WHY are the editors working so hard to make Nick the villain??  I mean its obvious after his Venice date that he has Andi's "support" :-)  At the end of that date, she basically says she's fallen in love with him... and her reaction to his "first-grab" move at the Ep 6 rose ceremony was again (among other things ;-)) completely supportive.  On the group date in Episode 7 previews we see how happy she is to see him..... AND she gives him the GDR ensuring that he will have a HTD.  Also, in his latest blog, CH is supportive of Nick... Sooooooooooo, again, it begs the question - what's with the edit?

simple. to support the smoking gun foilers out there. Edit and foilers are in cahoot to hide the obvious early connection.JMOAA

[SueSt]

now, where is July 28th?..i just need to see the kaboom and move on with RL..plus giving DH a well-deserved long-lost affections since this season started  

hahahaha my DH actually benefits from the show.  We watch it together, discuss it, talk about what's a turn on, reenact our own one-on-ones, etc...... :-)  TMI??? :-)

[SueSt]

simple. to support the smoking gun foilers out there. Edit and foilers are in cahoot to hide the obvious early connection.JMOAA

:-) absolutely, mura... a case of hide in plain sight?

[Guest]

now, where is July 28th?..i just need to see the kaboom and move on with RL..plus giving DH a well-deserved long-lost affections since this season started  

hahahaha my DH actually benefits from the show.  We watch it together, discuss it, talk about what's a turn on, reenact our own one-on-ones, etc...... :-)  TMI??? :-)

  . good for you and DH..  ...finally...this silly show has proven to give more benefit than its devastating cost (which to me translates to : precious time lost, drive my mind cray2 and wasted much-needed energy   )

[Guest]

simple. to support the smoking gun foilers out there. Edit and foilers are in cahoot to hide the obvious early connection.JMOAA

:-) absolutely, mura... a case of hide in plain sight?

absofreakinglutely!!   

here is a wonderful take from a very insightful friend awhile ago (in italic) :

http://static.east.abc.go.com/service/image/index/id/c7c87019-e9c3-4573-a41c-08a21d7aaeaa/dim/x.jpg

What if the left corner isn't a blurr?  What if it's a Vialled attempt to hide the truth  

A play on words: veiled attempt means a transparent cover-up.  The most difficult yet cleverest way to do this is to hide something in plain sight.
The ABC banner on The Bachelorette website has always puzzled me.  Why is the left corner blurred? I am suggesting it is "veiled"  - a homonym of Viall.

Go figure!...   

[SueSt]

^^^ with you on the costs too... I am OBSESSED!!!! :-) But joking aside, on some level watching also gives me what I need ... the connection to things romantic and about love!

[SueSt]

simple. to support the smoking gun foilers out there. Edit and foilers are in cahoot to hide the obvious early connection.JMOAA

:-) absolutely, mura... a case of hide in plain sight?

absofreakinglutely!!   

here is a wonderful take from a very insightful friend awhile ago (in italic) :

http://static.east.abc.go.com/service/image/index/id/c7c87019-e9c3-4573-a41c-08a21d7aaeaa/dim/x.jpg

What if the left corner isn't a blurr?  What if it's a Vialled attempt to hide the truth  

A play on words: veiled attempt means a transparent cover-up.  The most difficult yet cleverest way to do this is to hide something in plain sight.
The ABC banner on The Bachelorette website has always puzzled me.  Why is the left corner blurred? I am suggesting it is "veiled"  - a homonym of Viall.

Go figure!...   

OMG Mura - you are a freakin genius!!! Seriously, genius....

[Guest]

simple. to support the smoking gun foilers out there. Edit and foilers are in cahoot to hide the obvious early connection.JMOAA

:-) absolutely, mura... a case of hide in plain sight?

absofreakinglutely!!   

here is a wonderful take from a very insightful friend awhile ago (in italic) :

http://static.east.abc.go.com/service/image/index/id/c7c87019-e9c3-4573-a41c-08a21d7aaeaa/dim/x.jpg

What if the left corner isn't a blurr?  What if it's a Vialled attempt to hide the truth  

A play on words: veiled attempt means a transparent cover-up.  The most difficult yet cleverest way to do this is to hide something in plain sight.
The ABC banner on The Bachelorette website has always puzzled me.  Why is the left corner blurred? I am suggesting it is "veiled"  - a homonym of Viall.

Go figure!...   

OMG Mura - you are a freakin genius!!!  Seriously, genius....

though i would love to take the credit...  ..it really should be credited to my friend..  ...
HI FRIEND!!  :WAVEY: . do you read this?....
as i also said, you are really a genius...please do more sleuthing....    

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