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Post by Cecilia Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:16 pm

Maggenzm wrote:
Jolena wrote:
Cecilia wrote:

I find the bolded unfair.   It's an edited TV show.  Edited just a little bit differently and Nick would have looked just fine.  Plus I think Josh and Nick are totally different people who handle things differently.  Nick is more sensitive.  Doesn't mean he was going about it "wrong."  He was in the F2.  If it was how someone does it "wrong" he would already be gone.

I agree it's an edited TV show, but my concerns with Nick if what the guys are saying is true, he dosen't seem to have regards for anyone else's feelings. I know you want to get the girl, but to disregard other and not being considerate of other people's feelings is not a flattering trait at all. To do everything TPTB tell you to do even knowing that it isn't the right thing to do is not good either., and I agree they can edit it to make it sound worse then what it actually is ( and that's probably the case in most incident's but  not 100% of the time. Much of what Nick said was his own words that are making him look heartless. jmo

 :yes: ITA, IMO, he comes out very heartless. I am with Marcus, saying if I had a sister/daughter, I would not want him to end up with him, it's that smug look of arrogance and his words about others that really bugs me, obviously not just me, but looking at twitter, 90% of people feel that way.
There is a reason there are 25 guys, and not just one. Because, we get to see not just the way the F1,2,3,4 are with the lead, but also the way they interact with others. Nick not getting along with others must be a red flag for Andi and his PI that we are not seeing bcse they want us to believe he is F1.

We aren't watching the same show. Heartless is not a word I would use to describe Nick. This is so tiring.
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Post by Maggenzm Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:16 pm

2observe wrote:
JBF wrote:Zak was last year... Also Brad's season... Shawntel?

Yeah.. I used to take those seriously until there were no more consistent patterns. Ha ha!

When the rose ceremonies are bigger, they do tend to keep certain front runners far apart so they can't see the lead's facial expressions easily towards their competition.
I would think that because Andi has so many questions regarding how she would fit into Josh's family, she would call him last to make viewers think that he won't get a rose.  Unless he doesn't. :shocked!:

No, because last time after the argument, I thought for sure she was going to call him last, but NOOOO!, she called him second. Someone in the fan thread pointed out that Marcus was the last one because there was no rose on the table when he received his rose, and that Brian didn't have a rose on when Josh got his rose. I went back and checked, and bingo, it was true. TP did a good job convincing people that she didn't want to give him a rose.LOL
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Post by umngirl Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:23 pm

2observe wrote:
JBF wrote:Zak was last year... Also Brad's season... Shawntel?

Yeah.. I used to take those seriously until there were no more consistent patterns. Ha ha!

When the rose ceremonies are bigger, they do tend to keep certain front runners far apart so they can't see the lead's facial expressions easily towards their competition.
I would think that because Andi has so many questions regarding how she would fit into Josh's family, she would call him last to make viewers think that he won't get a rose.  Unless he doesn't. :shocked!:

Them saving the two people with the most "drama" or questions on the HTD to fight for the last rose is nothing new. Sean called Catherine's name last and it was between her and Des because their HTD had the only negative aspects where the other two were edited to be more positive. In reality Sean was never gonna send Cat home there but they wanted to make you think that. If it comes down to Josh and another guy at the end of the RC this week, I will fully believe it is for dramatics sake like usual. TPTB are nothing if not unoriginal.


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Post by rosesrREd Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:37 pm

Jolena wrote:
Cecilia wrote:
cindebugg wrote:

Josh is getting a 100% better edit than Nick is.  It's almost like they're showing us how a guy does it right (Josh) and how a guy does it wrong (Nick).

Based on twitter it looks to me like Josh and Andi are very popular.  They're the only couple this season who has trended and the tweets are overwhelmingly positive.

I find the bolded unfair.   It's an edited TV show.  Edited just a little bit differently and Nick would have looked just fine.  Plus I think Josh and Nick are totally different people who handle things differently.  Nick is more sensitive.  Doesn't mean he was going about it "wrong."  He was in the F2.  If it was how someone does it "wrong" he would already be gone.

I agree it's an edited TV show, but my concerns with Nick if what the guys are saying is true, he dosen't seem to have regards for anyone else's feelings. I know you want to get the girl, but to disregard other and not being considerate of other people's feelings is not a flattering trait at all. To do everything TPTB tell you to do even knowing that it isn't the right thing to do is not good either., and I agree they can edit it to make it sound worse then what it actually is ( and that's probably the case in most incident's but  not 100% of the time. Much of what Nick said was his own words that are making him look heartless. jmo


If Nick is heartless, then why has Brian, Chris, Marquel, JJ, Marcus, and CH all have have come to his defense? If he was a bad as you have seemingly described him, then he shouldn't have any friends now, and that is not the case. The one who has not been as chummy with the guys since the show ended is Josh. If anything what is happening now in reality should dictate what you think about Nick, and Josh, not what is happening on this edited TV show.
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Post by stuckinsc Sun Jul 06, 2014 7:48 pm

Jolena wrote:
Cecilia wrote:
cindebugg wrote:

Josh is getting a 100% better edit than Nick is.  It's almost like they're showing us how a guy does it right (Josh) and how a guy does it wrong (Nick).

Based on twitter it looks to me like Josh and Andi are very popular.  They're the only couple this season who has trended and the tweets are overwhelmingly positive.

I find the bolded unfair.   It's an edited TV show.  Edited just a little bit differently and Nick would have looked just fine.  Plus I think Josh and Nick are totally different people who handle things differently.  Nick is more sensitive.  Doesn't mean he was going about it "wrong."  He was in the F2.  If it was how someone does it "wrong" he would already be gone.

I agree it's an edited TV show, but my concerns with Nick if what the guys are saying is true, he dosen't seem to have regards for anyone else's feelings. I know you want to get the girl, but to disregard other and not being considerate of other people's feelings is not a flattering trait at all. To do everything TPTB tell you to do even knowing that it isn't the right thing to do is not good either., and I agree they can edit it to make it sound worse then what it actually is ( and that's probably the case in most incident's but  not 100% of the time. Much of what Nick said was his own words that are making him look heartless. jmo

No offense, but these guys are all his friends now. The one situation where the crappy edit seemed to be really true, Courtney, we didn't see the girls being friends after the show. Everyone except maybe Josh and Marcus are all great with Nick now, so to me I think he might not have been awesome to live with, but he wasn't as bad as we have seen.

I remember not liking Michelle Money, but after the show almost everyone really liked her. So she was intense, but the edit is really good at making people look worse than they really are.
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Post by Maggenzm Sun Jul 06, 2014 10:35 pm

Cecilia wrote:
Maggenzm wrote:
Jolena wrote:

I agree it's an edited TV show, but my concerns with Nick if what the guys are saying is true, he dosen't seem to have regards for anyone else's feelings. I know you want to get the girl, but to disregard other and not being considerate of other people's feelings is not a flattering trait at all. To do everything TPTB tell you to do even knowing that it isn't the right thing to do is not good either., and I agree they can edit it to make it sound worse then what it actually is ( and that's probably the case in most incident's but  not 100% of the time. Much of what Nick said was his own words that are making him look heartless. jmo

 :yes: ITA, IMO, he comes out very heartless. I am with Marcus, saying if I had a sister/daughter, I would not want him to end up with him, it's that smug look of arrogance and his words about others that really bugs me, obviously not just me, but looking at twitter, 90% of people feel that way.
There is a reason there are 25 guys, and not just one. Because, we get to see not just the way the F1,2,3,4 are with the lead, but also the way they interact with others. Nick not getting along with others must be a red flag for Andi and his PI that we are not seeing bcse they want us to believe he is F1.

We aren't watching the same show.  Heartless is not a word I would use to describe Nick.  This is so tiring.

OK, I admit, I am being a little too hard on Nick, he is not a bad guy, I guess the circumstances are tough when you are in that type setting, and insecurities and fears tend to cause people to act a certain way. JMO
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Post by beader Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:01 pm

IMO, it is so sad, and tiring, to see the extreme criticism and bashing of Nick.  I wish people could just support their favorite and forget the bashing.  Maybe when people run out of positive things to say about their favorite, bashing someone else is the easy thing to do. Some snark doesn't bother me at all, but, IMO, many comments, tweets, etc. are way beyond snark. Oh well, happens every season I guess.

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Post by nutty1 Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:06 pm

For me personally, I always find it best to say nothing if a contestant isn't my favorite or I don't care for him or ger. That way, after the season is over, I don't feel bad about anything and don' feel like people here are angry with me.

Back to the EDIT……I wish when this show is all done and over and history, someone from production would write a book all about how they decided to do the editing.


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Post by beader Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:08 pm

I'd be in line to buy that book.

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Post by Maggenzm Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:09 pm

beader wrote:IMO, it is so sad, and tiring, to see the extreme criticism and bashing of Nick.  I wish people could just support their favorite and forget the bashing.  Maybe when people run out of positive things to say about their favorite, bashing someone else is the easy thing to do.  Some snark doesn't bother me at all, but, IMO, many comments, tweets, etc. are way beyond snark.  Oh well, happens every season I guess.

I guess we all get so excited and forget that they are humans in difficult situation. But, at the end of the day, outside of the bubble, all is well and they all are friends.JMO
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Post by emad0722 Sun Jul 06, 2014 11:11 pm

Cecilia wrote:
Maggenzm wrote:
Jolena wrote:

I agree it's an edited TV show, but my concerns with Nick if what the guys are saying is true, he dosen't seem to have regards for anyone else's feelings. I know you want to get the girl, but to disregard other and not being considerate of other people's feelings is not a flattering trait at all. To do everything TPTB tell you to do even knowing that it isn't the right thing to do is not good either., and I agree they can edit it to make it sound worse then what it actually is ( and that's probably the case in most incident's but  not 100% of the time. Much of what Nick said was his own words that are making him look heartless. jmo

 :yes: ITA, IMO, he comes out very heartless. I am with Marcus, saying if I had a sister/daughter, I would not want him to end up with him, it's that smug look of arrogance and his words about others that really bugs me, obviously not just me, but looking at twitter, 90% of people feel that way.
There is a reason there are 25 guys, and not just one. Because, we get to see not just the way the F1,2,3,4 are with the lead, but also the way they interact with others. Nick not getting along with others must be a red flag for Andi and his PI that we are not seeing bcse they want us to believe he is F1.

We aren't watching the same show.  Heartless is not a word I would use to describe Nick.  This is so tiring.

THANK YOU CECILA.... you don't have to adore Nick, please address his actions NOT his heart.


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