Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 7 - Jun 30/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

Aunties_Love wrote:
I will say that I have also seen her have deep conversations with Chris.  I know he's not as popular of a choice here on this board, but in twitterland and other social media...he's one of the best choices for HER.  I just hope we get a chance to see more of them...think there is something the producers are hiding and that's why we haven't really seen much of them together.

sophienette wrote:

Bet2Win wrote:

sophienette wrote:Bet2Win, would you be able to do the same on the quick Josh/Andi drama in the preview? I.e. words we see out of their mouth or not?

Have the link handy?

Est I can do is my preview post... (the part 1 video 2nd vid on the page) last 7 seconds

http://sophienettejc.thedeadone.net/2014/06/24/the-bachelorette-2014-episode-07-preview-waffle-or-sprout/

stuckinsc wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

SueSt wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
I don't think she'd pick Josh just for her daddy...On something else, the body language with Brooks was off the charts last season as many have said....look where that got him.
I don't take body language to mean the all to end all.  There is a lot more than that and if the two of them don't have the rest, it won't work.  Right now, there is NOTHING deep about Josh at all.  Especially compared to the other 5 guys.

I am sorry, but how do we KNOW(just going by RS?) he doesn't leave at F3?  The body language in a couple can sometimes mean crap...if the rest of the stuff needed to form a good relationship isn't there, then body language means nothing.  I see nothing deep in Josh yet.
People kept going on about the off the charts body language between Des and Brooks...well we all know how that turned out.

Just have to comment on the bolded.  First, I always thought Des had great body language with Chris and Brooks.  I thought her heart wanted Brooks and her mind and body were telling her it was Chris. None of us really knows if Brooks had not chosen to leave if Chris and Des would be together.  I happen to think she would have chosen Brooks, others think she would have chosen Chris.  We will never know.

For body language, I think Andi is actually feeding of the body language of the guys.  That being said, she does lean back a lot when she isn't into the guy.  Chris is actually the guy she has had the least interaction shown with in the F4, so I will reserve judgement on that until later.

As for Josh not being shown as deep, who has been shown as deep to this point?  I don't think any of them have been shown to be particularly deep on the show yet.  The love letters as we heard them weren't all that deep.  Marcus is fairly non-existent when he is not professing his love or kissing her.  Brian is the guy who can only kiss but not talk.  Dylan is sad guy.  Nick is cocky guy.  Josh is the guy you can't trust.  Where is there any deep in there anywhere?

I find both Josh and Nick interesting from how I have gotten to know them through their social media.  I think Brian is a sweetheart, again from his social media.  Still don't know Dylan, Marcus or Chris that well, as they don't use social media all that much.

I see BL with Nick and Josh.  Still, to aunties point it takes more than attraction to make things work.  The only one I see an emotional connection with is Nick.  Andi and Nick have conversations that indicate that they are really in tune with each other.  They both seem very bright and would crave an intellectual connection beyond just the physical.  The way they talked through their issues on the Venice date was really something special (like I could learn a thing or two.)  :-) Very considerate, thoughtful, articulate and kind.  I definitely see their connection, and probably deeper than I have seen it in a bach couple maybe ever.  Their connection is NOT just physical, its emotional, spiritual, chemical.  By the by, Brian is also the guy who can lead a team to a basketball championship!!  :-)

I will say that I have also seen her have deep conversations with Chris.  I know he's not as popular of a choice here on this board, but in twitterland and other social media...he's one of the best choices for HER.  I just hope we get a chance to see more of them...think there is something the producers are hiding and that's why we haven't really seen much of them together.

I have watched this whole season and I didn't find her conversations with Chris any deeper than her conversations with Nick or Dylan.  Are they showing only shallow conversations with Josh about cheating and trust?  Yup, because that is his edit. I bet if we saw they whole conversations they have discussed much more than just that.

SueSt wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
I will say that I have also seen her have deep conversations with Chris.  I know he's not as popular of a choice here on this board, but in twitterland and other social media...he's one of the best choices for HER.  I just hope we get a chance to see more of them...think there is something the producers are hiding and that's why we haven't really seen much of them together.

I agree on Chris, aunties.  They seem to have a very warm and respectful relationship.  He's a mature person, they have adult conversations.  Still, I continue to see her pull away when he goes in for the kiss... never a good sign!  :-)

Aunties_Love wrote:

SueSt wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
I will say that I have also seen her have deep conversations with Chris.  I know he's not as popular of a choice here on this board, but in twitterland and other social media...he's one of the best choices for HER.  I just hope we get a chance to see more of them...think there is something the producers are hiding and that's why we haven't really seen much of them together.

I agree on Chris, aunties.  They seem to have a very warm and respectful relationship.  He's a mature person, they have adult conversations.  Still, I continue to see her pull away when he goes in for the kiss... never a good sign!  :-)

Yet, I do see her going in for the kisses more and more, pulling away less and less.  Take last epi as an example, he went in for one, she didn't back away, then she came back at him several kisses after that.

SueSt wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

SueSt wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
I will say that I have also seen her have deep conversations with Chris.  I know he's not as popular of a choice here on this board, but in twitterland and other social media...he's one of the best choices for HER.  I just hope we get a chance to see more of them...think there is something the producers are hiding and that's why we haven't really seen much of them together.

I agree on Chris, aunties.  They seem to have a very warm and respectful relationship.  He's a mature person, they have adult conversations.  Still, I continue to see her pull away when he goes in for the kiss... never a good sign!  :-)

Yet, I do see her going in for the kisses more and more, pulling away less and less.  Take last epi as an example, he went in for one, she didn't back away, then she came back at him several kisses after that.

Hmmm, I've been so busy watching Nick on playback, I must have missed it.  :-)  Will have to go back and watch - thanks!

SueSt wrote:

SueSt wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

SueSt wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:
I will say that I have also seen her have deep conversations with Chris.  I know he's not as popular of a choice here on this board, but in twitterland and other social media...he's one of the best choices for HER.  I just hope we get a chance to see more of them...think there is something the producers are hiding and that's why we haven't really seen much of them together.

I agree on Chris, aunties.  They seem to have a very warm and respectful relationship.  He's a mature person, they have adult conversations.  Still, I continue to see her pull away when he goes in for the kiss... never a good sign!  :-)

Yet, I do see her going in for the kisses more and more, pulling away less and less.  Take last epi as an example, he went in for one, she didn't back away, then she came back at him several kisses after that.

Hmmm, I've been so busy watching Nick on playback, I must have missed it.  :-)  Will have to go back and watch - thanks!

ok, just went back and rewatched... and yeah, I do see her much more relaxed and open than previously.  Still not the level of Nick, but something was there.  thanks aunties.

ag54 wrote:What is so silly about this show is that they only show snippets of conversations out of many hours long dates.  This goes for all of them. In reality we have no idea who is deep or shallow or interesting or fun - we just have versions of characters that the editors want us to see.  Andi has spent full days and evenings with them, I'm sure covering a myriad of topics.  She probably has a much better idea of what they're like than us...

ag54 wrote:What is so silly about this show is that they only show snippets of conversations out of many hours long dates.  This goes for all of them. In reality we have no idea who is deep or shallow or interesting or fun - we just have versions of characters that the editors want us to see.  Andi has spent full days and evenings with them, I'm sure covering a myriad of topics.  She probably has a much better idea of what they're like than us...

SueSt wrote:

ag54 wrote:What is so silly about this show is that they only show snippets of conversations out of many hours long dates.  This goes for all of them. In reality we have no idea who is deep or shallow or interesting or fun - we just have versions of characters that the editors want us to see.  Andi has spent full days and evenings with them, I'm sure covering a myriad of topics.  She probably has a much better idea of what they're like than us...

that is certainly true.  however, what we DO see can be very telling.  Marcus is articulate and sweet; Chris is mature and attentive; Nick is #salty and sexy; Josh is confident and defensive... these are all things that I have seen... and while I know it's not the complete measure of a man, it does suggest his nature.