Bachelorette 10 - Andi Dorfman - Episode 7 - Jun 30/14 *Spoilers & Sleuthing* - Discussion

Piper61 wrote:

SueSt wrote:

ag54 wrote:What is so silly about this show is that they only show snippets of conversations out of many hours long dates.  This goes for all of them. In reality we have no idea who is deep or shallow or interesting or fun - we just have versions of characters that the editors want us to see.  Andi has spent full days and evenings with them, I'm sure covering a myriad of topics.  She probably has a much better idea of what they're like than us...

that is certainly true.  however, what we DO see can be very telling.  Marcus is articulate and sweet; Chris is mature and attentive; Nick is #salty and sexy; Josh is confident and defensive... these are all things that I have seen... and while I know it's not the complete measure of a man, it does suggest his nature.

I don't find Nick sexy, I think more guys are articulate and mature besides Chris, the same goes for confident and sweet.  Josh is the sexiest of the group for me, and he has a goofy side I enjoy and he along with some others come across as very gentlemanly and thoughtful of the other guys.  A lot of the guys seem protective and courteous.  Many seem unselfish and well-liked by the other guys.  Andi should know these guys better than anyone and I hope she followed her heart's desire and it all works out for her, even if it isn't my particular favorite guy in the end.  No secret that it is Josh.  :cutesmile!: 

Again, this is all what YOU are seeing. I am wondering what SHE is seeing! Maybe with Nick, she is seeing the sexy parts of him. with Chris, she's seeing the mature, articulate and caring man. With Josh she's seeing the jock in him, the one that she can't trust, the one that she ultimately doesn't want. Who knows....only she does.

Aunties_Love wrote:
Again, this is all what YOU are seeing.  I am wondering what SHE is seeing!  Maybe with Nick, she is seeing the sexy parts of him.  with Chris, she's seeing the mature, articulate and caring man.  With Josh she's seeing the jock in him, the one that she can't trust, the one that she ultimately doesn't want.  Who knows....only she does.

Yes to this...

Aunties_Love wrote:

Piper61 wrote:

SueSt wrote:

ag54 wrote:What is so silly about this show is that they only show snippets of conversations out of many hours long dates.  This goes for all of them. In reality we have no idea who is deep or shallow or interesting or fun - we just have versions of characters that the editors want us to see.  Andi has spent full days and evenings with them, I'm sure covering a myriad of topics.  She probably has a much better idea of what they're like than us...

that is certainly true.  however, what we DO see can be very telling.  Marcus is articulate and sweet; Chris is mature and attentive; Nick is #salty and sexy; Josh is confident and defensive... these are all things that I have seen... and while I know it's not the complete measure of a man, it does suggest his nature.

I don't find Nick sexy, I think more guys are articulate and mature besides Chris, the same goes for confident and sweet.  Josh is the sexiest of the group for me, and he has a goofy side I enjoy and he along with some others come across as very gentlemanly and thoughtful of the other guys.  A lot of the guys seem protective and courteous.  Many seem unselfish and well-liked by the other guys.  Andi should know these guys better than anyone and I hope she followed her heart's desire and it all works out for her, even if it isn't my particular favorite guy in the end.  No secret that it is Josh.  :cutesmile!: 

Again, this is all what YOU are seeing.  I am wondering what SHE is seeing!  Maybe with Nick, she is seeing the sexy parts of him.  with Chris, she's seeing the mature, articulate and caring man.  With Josh she's seeing the jock in him, the one that she can't trust, the one that she ultimately doesn't want.  Who knows....only she does.

Yes, of course this is what I am seeing. And wasn't what I responded to what that person was seeing? If I or anyone makes the statement what Andi is seeing, then we would be told we can't be saying that. I would say it is speculating when it comes to Andi's thoughts and all maybes can come into play, which I guess I am not sure if that is ok or not.   

Everything is speculation at this point. The only ones that know what actually happened are the contestants and the editors ~ with the editors knowing more than the contestants. Andi doesn't even know what the conversations between the guys actually entailed, she is seeing the same edited version we are seeing.

Bet2Win wrote:

ag54 wrote:What is so silly about this show is that they only show snippets of conversations out of many hours long dates.  This goes for all of them. In reality we have no idea who is deep or shallow or interesting or fun - we just have versions of characters that the editors want us to see.  Andi has spent full days and evenings with them, I'm sure covering a myriad of topics.  She probably has a much better idea of what they're like than us...

This is why I have complaints about this season ~ Are any of them fun??  The edit is too serious centering around conflicts, which make for a very boring season.  No wonder ratings keep tanking every week.

I think Andi is not really that fun - I don't mean that as a knock on her.  But she is more a reserved, thoughtful, serious type. There's no giggling, getting giddily excited or high-energy with this one.   She comes across as very serious to me and even seems older than her age.  So the tone of the whole show follows, in a way.  It would be nice to see a few more laughs, but really they do this most seasons even with the more bubbly girls and funny guys they seem to wipe out their personalities the majority of the time.  A few can withstand it and still be cute, fun and funny despite TPTB, but not many. I;ve never understood why they do this.

^^ just noticed your avatar, relaxing - LOVE it! :-)

I think she seems fun! They never show the laughs until MTA or outakes every single season.

Thanks Sue - I loved that picture and with those 3 together I couldn't resist. I feel like it represents them so well - Nick front and centre looking like the brooding, artsy guy, Chris looking handsome with a bit of dorkiness thrown in with the Fonzee thumb and Marcus just smiling sweetly in back. I love it.

Bet2Win wrote:Everything is speculation at this point.  The only ones that know what actually happened are the contestants and the editors ~ with the editors knowing more than the contestants.  Andi doesn't even know what the conversations between the guys actually entailed, she is seeing the same edited version we are seeing.

My point, albeit lost, is that she's only seeing what she can...what she see's isn't necessarily what we see neither so for someone to say how can she let this one go or keep that one means squat in the long run. The point I think is that someone said that she see's Josh as we do so obviously she's not going to let him go...I am saying that is not necessarily true so to presume that he's there to the end may not be right too.

SueSt wrote:^^ just noticed your avatar, relaxing - LOVE it!  :-)

ditto.  

Aunties_Love wrote:

Bet2Win wrote:Everything is speculation at this point.  The only ones that know what actually happened are the contestants and the editors ~ with the editors knowing more than the contestants.  Andi doesn't even know what the conversations between the guys actually entailed, she is seeing the same edited version we are seeing.

My point, albeit lost, is that she's only seeing what she can...what she see's isn't necessarily what we see neither so for someone to say how can she let this one go or keep that one means squat in the long run.  The point I think is that someone said that she see's Josh as we do so obviously she's not going to let him go...I am saying that is not necessarily true so to presume that he's there to the end may not be right too.

I understand what you're trying to say, however

" so for someone to say how can she let this one go or keep that one means squat in the long run"

it may mean squat but doesn't mean I can't say it. There are thousands of posts, that may mean squat. Like Bet's post in the quote, it's all speculation, that's what we do around here.

^ Amen, GuardianAngel to be fair to Piper61 - she was just posting her thoughts, which we all do everyday whether or not our thoughts include things about our "favorite contestants." It's what makes everything so fun here. Heck, I was going to post only one comment and now I'm stuck here