Re: The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers Thread #2

[albean99]

Have we seen any pics of Marcus that shows him going to Cancun or there?

[nannymargie]

Have we seen any pics of Marcus that shows him going to Cancun or there?

I thought it was said that he backed out because he was saying he was the next bachelor. I may be wrong about this.

[Rolly]

Have we seen any pics of Marcus that shows him going to Cancun or there?

I thought it was said that he backed out because he was saying he was the next bachelor. I may be wrong about this.

Oh how I wish this were true! Maybe he can do BIP and be the next bachelor. I'm not ruling out yet that he is F1 but as time goes on, F1 may not be what I'm hoping for.

[Cecilia]

According to RS (tweet on 6/16) it is Dylan, Marcus, and Marquel on BIP. So it's not gospel but I tend to believe his intel until proven otherwise.

[Guest]

I don't have a favorite, except perhaps Marquel.  I'm not drawn to any of the F4, but there isn't anyone that I don't care for either.  Marcus is hot, Chris is quiet, I enjoy watching Nick & Andi together, and except for all of the athlete talk, Josh seems nice, albeit putting on the humble brag (loved that reference).  

Andi reminds me of DeAnna in so many ways, except I think DeAnna's prettier, more open and really was looking for love.  I don't get that feeling from Andi.

So maybe that's why the season appears a little off ~ Andi chastised JPG for not getting to know her; and MF is giving her a little of her own medicine by making the edit all about MeAndi.  

Wow, you just nailed that. I was okay with Andi until she did that deal with JPG which I'm sure was all for show, which is why I have a difficult time warming up to her. I loved when Eric called her out. I think he was spot on and her reaction to him was very telling. He's just trying to have a conversation with her, explaining how he feels and she was non negotiable...reminiscent of her discussion with JP And the look on Eric's face was like, there is no way I'd want to be in a relationship with you.

I do think Andi has a good connection with Josh, Nick and Marcus, though I think Marcus is more physical. (and with Chris, who knows whats going on with that, unfortunately we don't see him at all) but out of those three, I think Josh is her best bet. I think she'd just walk all over the other guys. Josh and Andi have a lot of "me" factors, and their conversation is more shared....instead of all her.

[cindebugg]

I'm going to defend Andi a little bit, which surprises me a little since I was pretty indifferent to her during JPG's season.  I love that JPG and Nikki thumbed their noses at TPTB. It serves them right for all the crap they've pulled over the years but IMO Andi was right about JPG.  He didn't really want to get to know the girls and Andi wasn't the only one that noticed.

Andi has made a real effort to get to know her guys and be as open as possible. I can't blame her for getting frustrated with the guys "team" spirit and Animal House behavior.  She's serious and focused and she expects the guys to be to.

As for Eric, I don't think he understood  what the bachelorette's responsibilities are to make this show a success.  She has to drag guys week to week that she knows she has no future with yet she has to act like she does.  I think all the leads have to adopt a poker face to a certain degree.  The fact that Eric noticed proved that Andi isn't very good at being fake.  That's a good thing IMO.

[atem]

Isn't good at being fake? Tell that to Nick! LOL

[Alanna]

I'm going to defend Andi a little bit, which surprises me a little since I was pretty indifferent to her during JPG's season.  I love that JPG and Nikki thumbed their noses at TPTB. It serves them right for all the crap they've pulled over the years but IMO Andi was right about JPG.  He didn't really want to get to know the girls and Andi wasn't the only one that noticed.

Andi has made a real effort to get to know her guys and be as open as possible. I can't blame her for getting frustrated with the guys "team" spirit and Animal House behavior.  She's serious and focused and she expects the guys to be to.

As for Eric, I don't think he understood  what the bachelorette's responsibilities are to make this show a success.  She has to drag guys week to week that she knows she has no future with yet she has to act like she does.  I think all the leads have to adopt a poker face to a certain degree.  The fact that Eric noticed proved that Andi isn't very good at being fake.  That's a good thing IMO.

What a great post!!! JPG was a joke as a lead, he showed up, thought he'd hook up with some sexy girls, collect his money and leave. Then these women started talking back and whining and demanding stuff and he wasn't prepared for that nonsense. He and Nikki seem happy so good for them but Nikki seems like a total doormat to me, which explains why things are going swimmingly IMO. Andi wasn't the only one who didn't like him, his wta was a blood bath.

Andi is doing her best as the lead. I think she is trying and learning about them as much as she can and doing what she can to create an interesting show and develop a relationship. She likes guys who are serious, which explains why 2 of her f3 are the most grown up men in the house and the 3rd at least has a serious/snarky sense of humor, not immature. Obviously ymmv!

[Guest]

I'm going to defend Andi a little bit, which surprises me a little since I was pretty indifferent to her during JPG's season.  I love that JPG and Nikki thumbed their noses at TPTB. It serves them right for all the crap they've pulled over the years but IMO Andi was right about JPG.  He didn't really want to get to know the girls and Andi wasn't the only one that noticed.

Andi has made a real effort to get to know her guys and be as open as possible. I can't blame her for getting frustrated with the guys "team" spirit and Animal House behavior.  She's serious and focused and she expects the guys to be to.

As for Eric, I don't think he understood  what the bachelorette's responsibilities are to make this show a success.  She has to drag guys week to week that she knows she has no future with yet she has to act like she does.  I think all the leads have to adopt a poker face to a certain degree.  The fact that Eric noticed proved that Andi isn't very good at being fake.  That's a good thing IMO.

I agree, that's part of the job as the lead, but what I found interesting is Eric tried to rationally talk to her about it. He felt it was her that was the one not opening up. It was apparently obvious enough to Eric for him to bring it up. Which is pretty mush the same thing she accuse JP of.

[2observe]

Have we seen any pics of Marcus that shows him going to Cancun or there?

The answer to your question is no.

[cindebugg]

I'm going to defend Andi a little bit, which surprises me a little since I was pretty indifferent to her during JPG's season.  I love that JPG and Nikki thumbed their noses at TPTB. It serves them right for all the crap they've pulled over the years but IMO Andi was right about JPG.  He didn't really want to get to know the girls and Andi wasn't the only one that noticed.

Andi has made a real effort to get to know her guys and be as open as possible. I can't blame her for getting frustrated with the guys "team" spirit and Animal House behavior.  She's serious and focused and she expects the guys to be to.

As for Eric, I don't think he understood  what the bachelorette's responsibilities are to make this show a success.  She has to drag guys week to week that she knows she has no future with yet she has to act like she does.  I think all the leads have to adopt a poker face to a certain degree.  The fact that Eric noticed proved that Andi isn't very good at being fake.  That's a good thing IMO.

I agree, that's part of the job as the lead, but what I found interesting is Eric tried to rationally talk to her about it.  He felt it was her that was the one not opening up.  It was apparently obvious enough to Eric for him to bring it up.  Which is pretty mush the same thing she accuse JP of.

I think it's the exact opposite. She accused Juan Pablo of not being interested enough to even care to ask about her life. All he did was talk about himself. Eric called her out because she didn't talk about herself to him. I would guess that even though she was impressed with Eric there wasn't a love match which is why she wasn't open with him. I agree she over reacted. Sometimes people over react, especially under stressful situations.

[docnash14]

I'm going to defend Andi a little bit, which surprises me a little since I was pretty indifferent to her during JPG's season.  I love that JPG and Nikki thumbed their noses at TPTB. It serves them right for all the crap they've pulled over the years but IMO Andi was right about JPG.  He didn't really want to get to know the girls and Andi wasn't the only one that noticed.

Andi has made a real effort to get to know her guys and be as open as possible. I can't blame her for getting frustrated with the guys "team" spirit and Animal House behavior.  She's serious and focused and she expects the guys to be to.

As for Eric, I don't think he understood  what the bachelorette's responsibilities are to make this show a success.  She has to drag guys week to week that she knows she has no future with yet she has to act like she does.  I think all the leads have to adopt a poker face to a certain degree.  The fact that Eric noticed proved that Andi isn't very good at being fake.  That's a good thing IMO.

I agree, that's part of the job as the lead, but what I found interesting is Eric tried to rationally talk to her about it.  He felt it was her that was the one not opening up.  It was apparently obvious enough to Eric for him to bring it up.  Which is pretty mush the same thing she accuse JP of.

I think it's the exact opposite.  She accused Juan Pablo of not being interested enough to even care to ask about her life.  All he did was talk about himself.  Eric called her out because she didn't talk about herself to him.  I would guess that even though she was impressed with Eric there wasn't a love match which is why she wasn't open with him.    I agree she over reacted.  Sometimes people over react, especially under stressful situations.

In my opinion, that's the exact same reason JP didn't explore with Andi about herself (e.g. her religion); he didn't see a future with her so he had not given it significant thought about whether she would be a good mom for Camila (one of the points Andi brought up). I think he did the same with others for the same reason with the exception being Nikki as he seemed to know a lot about her including the fact that she was closest to Andi in the house.

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