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Post by Luvstruck Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:47 pm

Last nights rose ceremony where Nick went to talk with Andi after Eric left it was interesting they showed Chris saying to the camera he wished he could be the one to comfort Andi in a crisis. Foreshadowing maybe him being the one comforting her after they aren notified that Eric died?

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Post by Luvstruck Tue Jun 10, 2014 1:55 pm

So far Andi has pinched Marcus's cheek when kissing/dancing and Josh's cheek when kissing during rose ceremony coctail party . That seems to be a signature flirting move of hers showing them they are special.

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Post by notarose Tue Jun 10, 2014 2:34 pm

Luvstruck wrote:So far Andi has pinched Marcus's cheek when kissing/dancing and Josh's cheek when kissing during rose ceremony coctail party .  That seems to be a signature flirting move of hers showing them they are special.

I'm going to watch for this. Thanks for pointing it out Luvstruck!
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Post by stuckinsc Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:14 pm

Maggenzm wrote:
That is why I prefer Andi with Nick, so far she isn't that sharp edged person I don't care for with him.

I agree but it's much easier said than done, when you've been hurt by some

See, we have to remember that the producers decide what we do see or not see, so anything is possible at this point. Wouldn't that be a shocker if JJ is F1? just saying, this  edit is very crazy.


JJ as F1 would be the best shocker ever!

If he is, he's apparently not the most sentimental guy.  He just tweeted that he was cleaning up and found his date card amidst a bunch of other stuff.  Certainly doesn't seem to be regarding it as one of his treasures to cherish for all eternity!

And now the relationship is over.  Too bad, I like him too much to see him with Andi anyway!  Maybe this is our real shocker, Andi picks JJ, post filming they have broken up and she is now in love with Chris Harrison!

And what is it that makes Andi such an evil person? Sure she is spoiled, but that doesn't make her the worst person. Doesn't she deserve a great guy like Josh, Marcus or Chris if she sees them as the one for her. I have seen worse people meet someone who complete and gets them. So, let's give the girl a chance for love.JMO

I don't think I have ever called Andi evil. I would go with self centered and not interested in really learning from other people.  Plus, this part was a joke, I don't think there is any chance that Andi picks JJ, do you?
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Post by Catdwoman50 Tue Jun 10, 2014 3:33 pm

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Maggenzm wrote:
That is why I prefer Andi with Nick, so far she isn't that sharp edged person I don't care for with him.

I agree but it's much easier said than done, when you've been hurt by some

See, we have to remember that the producers decide what we do see or not see, so anything is possible at this point. Wouldn't that be a shocker if JJ is F1? just saying, this  edit is very crazy.


JJ as F1 would be the best shocker ever!

If he is, he's apparently not the most sentimental guy.  He just tweeted that he was cleaning up and found his date card amidst a bunch of other stuff.  Certainly doesn't seem to be regarding it as one of his treasures to cherish for all eternity!

And now the relationship is over.  Too bad, I like him too much to see him with Andi anyway!  Maybe this is our real shocker, Andi picks JJ, post filming they have broken up and she is now in love with Chris Harrison!

And what is it that makes Andi such an evil person? Sure she is spoiled, but that doesn't make her the worst person. Doesn't she deserve a great guy like Josh, Marcus or Chris if she sees them as the one for her. I have seen worse people meet someone who complete and gets them. So, let's give the girl a chance for love.JMO

I don't think I have ever called Andi evil. I would go with self centered and not interested in really learning from other people.  Plus, this part was a joke, I don't think there is any chance that Andi picks JJ, do you?

Agree, it takes two to make a couple and it is a successful pairing if we find the one that a) completes us, or b) make us better. If one finds the one from a show like B/ette more power to them. I like Andi with Nick and with Josh, I will be happy for her and her choice. Andi is not the sweet person that everyone will like - she can be abrasive and confrontational but that works for some, it doesn't turn me off but neither am I a fan. But with that said, I can only see her personality working with 4 people right now: Marquel - he will let things roll off his shoulders; Josh - he is co-alpha and can see Andi relinquishing power to him; Nick - he manages Andi well and calms her down and knows how to woo her; Chris - I am not discounting him yet, I think he too can be like a Josh or Nick but haven't seen much of him to say either way.


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Post by JBF Tue Jun 10, 2014 4:59 pm

From the “never before seen moments” of the cocktail and rose ceremony, the following words are spoken with each of the “soiled” top four guys. Whether or not they foreshadow anything is up to you to decide.

Josh

Yeah. I’m OK. (Andi)
Very intense night tonight (Harrison)
It’s disappointing (Andrew)

Nick

I’ve said it a million times, guys (Cody)
There are 13 of us tonight. She has a lot on her plate (Cody)
I do know there are great guys inside (Andi… over her with Nick… outside)
Not going to lie (Josh)
To think you just have the upper hand (Andrew)
He sort of claimed that he was the one (deserving of that moment with her) (Andrew)
We are all hoping the guy has more depth to him (Andrew)
You’re slightly arrogant right now (Tasos)
He knows what he is doing is not right (Tasos)
If you do not receive a rose, you will be going home immediately (Harrison… although one could feebly argue that the sliver of Chris and JJ on the sides put them in danger too. BTW, Josh got this line in episode #1.)
I am NOT looking back (Andi)
The feelings are raw and natural… at times crazy (Andi)

Marcus

This is a marathon, not a sprint. This is a process. (Cody)
I told you guys this is working (Andi)
I know it’s true (Andi)
To be completely honest, that’s done for me (Andi)
(This working for me.) I said that at the beginning of the night. (Andi)

Chris

(She has a lot on her plate) to figure out still (Cody)
I know it’s true (Andi)
I’m gonna have to steal you away (Harrison)
… and that is to sincerely find the man of her dreams (Harrison)
But the feelings are there (Andi)

Weirdest body language moment: Her trademark smirk over "I look at all of them and... like... I can't help but feel like they're here for me."
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Post by Aunties_Love Tue Jun 10, 2014 6:52 pm

JBF wrote:Not sure what the Canadians and other outside-US folks here can see by way of the abc.com “extras”, so I figured I’d do transcripts of the more interesting ones.

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/video/PL5569765/VDKA0_usn1anya

Eric and Chris during Dylan’s date. It is obvious that Chris was among those closest to Eric in the house on account of how many shots there are of these two together. Of course… dum deed um dum… they are discussing “death” in regards to Dylan’s date.

Eric: If Dylan didn’t come back, it would be really hard to pinpoint why.
Chris: This is an intimidating setting. I think all of our concern is that Dylan won’t be able to open up since he’s nervous. It is a tough situation for him because he has lost some family members recently. He’s concerned that if he does talk about it that he will be viewed as somebody trying to gain sympathy and that’s the reason she’s gonna keep him here…
Eric: First dates… a lot of times, it’s a… it is too soon to get into such heavy things, but that is such a normal question to ask. I mean… questions about the family.
Chris: For all of us, it’s your first and last 1 on 1 date with Andi and you kinda have to put yourself out there if you don’t want to go home having regrets.
Eric looks down thinking…

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/video/PL5569765/VDKA0_fbpydjf6

The Cody’s prank on Andi at the episode #2 cocktail party is simply high comedy, prompting her girlfriend “payback” on him in the next show. Yet I’ll toss it here anyway.

Cody: Before we get into serious conversation…
Andi: Yeah?
Cody: Uh… whooo! There is something I gotta share with you.
Andi: Uh-oh.
Cody: Yeah… um.
Andi: Everything OK?
Cody: Not really. (Really?) Honestly.
Andi: What’s going on?
Cody: This is really tough for me and I don’t know how to tell you this, but I hink I might have to leave.
Andi: Really?
Cody: Yeah, this is really difficult for me. I just… I dunno… I might…
Andi: What’s making it difficult for you?
Cody: I dunno. I think I might just have to leave and… be… a stripper!
Andi (grinning in surprise): I just want you guys to open up to me, like… (has to cover her face)… I’m like…
Cody: No no. I had a blast on that 1 on 1.
Andi (laughing): You are such an aaassssss!

This next one with Josh and Andi has some interesting… and quite humorous… body language “visuals” worth screencapping. But here is the conversation… only I definitely muffed some lines here with so much shotgun delivery.

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/video/PL5569765/VDKA0_428dan0a

He has his hand on her knee and she holds on to her glass smiling with him. “How are you doing?” “Good, how R you” “Good” “Good”

Andi PI: I need to dig deep with Josh. I need to hear stories. I just want to like... knoooow… more…. I'd like to know who he is. Like, I already have that chemistry with him. That's obvious, but… like.. I want that mental connection. I want that personal relationship too. (Slight smirk on her face, but no clue what that’s about.)
Andi: Tell… me… your… fears.
Josh: I'm-skeerd. I-mean-I-haven't-had-a-relationship-in-over-five-years. I'm-skeerd, like, if I fall in love then (she strokes her hair listening) that person doesn’t feel the same. That'sKindaSceerySometimesWhenYouThinkAboutThat.
Andi: Hm-mmm. Has… that… ever… happened… to… you?
Josh: No. I’veNeverHadMahHeartBroken.
Andi (slightly grinning): You… think… you… are more scared of hurting somebody or… more scared of getting hurt?
Josh: Maybe-a-little-bit o'both. (OK) Definitely…
Andi: I’m terrified of getting hurt.
Josh (grinning back at Andi): DefinitelyFearGettingHurt
Josh PI: I-definitelyFeelMyConnectionWithAndiTonight... um… I-KnowShe's-BeenWantingMeToOpenUpA-LittleBitMore... And-I-AmOpeningUpAsMuchToHerAsI-Can (Cue shot of a fireplace shown roaring a-flame… slurping kiss sounds… then back to his PI session) Andi-Is-SomebodyThat-I-Haven't-Had-These-StrongFeelingsIn-a-LongTime. (Smooch as he still holds his glass, then back to our favorite Jock Josh speaking) And-I-Know-It-IsVeryEarlyInTheProcessHereBut... I feel like there's some special connection that we're having that I haven't had before.
Andi (head to head with him): Two kisses this week. That’s pretty good.
Josh: That’s very good. I want more kisses.
Building shot at night.

I was trying to think what past contestant Josh reminds me the most of and it finally dawned on me. Sean Lowe on Emily’s season. He was slower in his delivery on his own season, but was a real motormouth with the Divine Miss Em. When trying to jot down his lines, I simply tossed my pen in the air and gave up.
Thanks for the transcripts JBF!! It's hard when you can't see the vids so you doing the play by play really helps.  :cutesmile!: 


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Post by eme92 Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:09 pm

Aunties_Love wrote:
JBF wrote:Not sure what the Canadians and other outside-US folks here can see by way of the abc.com “extras”, so I figured I’d do transcripts of the more interesting ones.

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/video/PL5569765/VDKA0_usn1anya

Eric and Chris during Dylan’s date. It is obvious that Chris was among those closest to Eric in the house on account of how many shots there are of these two together. Of course… dum deed um dum… they are discussing “death” in regards to Dylan’s date.

Eric: If Dylan didn’t come back, it would be really hard to pinpoint why.
Chris: This is an intimidating setting. I think all of our concern is that Dylan won’t be able to open up since he’s nervous. It is a tough situation for him because he has lost some family members recently. He’s concerned that if he does talk about it that he will be viewed as somebody trying to gain sympathy and that’s the reason she’s gonna keep him here…
Eric: First dates… a lot of times, it’s a… it is too soon to get into such heavy things, but that is such a normal question to ask. I mean… questions about the family.
Chris: For all of us, it’s your first and last 1 on 1 date with Andi and you kinda have to put yourself out there if you don’t want to go home having regrets.
Eric looks down thinking…

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/video/PL5569765/VDKA0_fbpydjf6

The Cody’s prank on Andi at the episode #2 cocktail party is simply high comedy, prompting her girlfriend “payback” on him in the next show. Yet I’ll toss it here anyway.

Cody: Before we get into serious conversation…
Andi: Yeah?
Cody: Uh… whooo! There is something I gotta share with you.
Andi: Uh-oh.
Cody: Yeah… um.
Andi: Everything OK?
Cody: Not really. (Really?) Honestly.
Andi: What’s going on?
Cody: This is really tough for me and I don’t know how to tell you this, but I hink I might have to leave.
Andi: Really?
Cody: Yeah, this is really difficult for me. I just… I dunno… I might…
Andi: What’s making it difficult for you?
Cody: I dunno. I think I might just have to leave and… be… a stripper!
Andi (grinning in surprise): I just want you guys to open up to me, like… (has to cover her face)… I’m like…
Cody: No no. I had a blast on that 1 on 1.
Andi (laughing): You are such an aaassssss!

This next one with Josh and Andi has some interesting… and quite humorous… body language “visuals” worth screencapping. But here is the conversation… only I definitely muffed some lines here with so much shotgun delivery.

http://abc.go.com/shows/the-bachelorette/video/PL5569765/VDKA0_428dan0a

He has his hand on her knee and she holds on to her glass smiling with him. “How are you doing?” “Good, how R you” “Good” “Good”

Andi PI: I need to dig deep with Josh. I need to hear stories. I just want to like... knoooow… more…. I'd like to know who he is. Like, I already have that chemistry with him. That's obvious, but… like.. I want that mental connection. I want that personal relationship too. (Slight smirk on her face, but no clue what that’s about.)
Andi: Tell… me… your… fears.
Josh: I'm-skeerd. I-mean-I-haven't-had-a-relationship-in-over-five-years. I'm-skeerd, like, if I fall in love then (she strokes her hair listening) that person doesn’t feel the same. That'sKindaSceerySometimesWhenYouThinkAboutThat.
Andi: Hm-mmm. Has… that… ever… happened… to… you?
Josh: No. I’veNeverHadMahHeartBroken.
Andi (slightly grinning): You… think… you… are more scared of hurting somebody or… more scared of getting hurt?
Josh: Maybe-a-little-bit o'both. (OK) Definitely…
Andi: I’m terrified of getting hurt.
Josh (grinning back at Andi): DefinitelyFearGettingHurt
Josh PI: I-definitelyFeelMyConnectionWithAndiTonight... um… I-KnowShe's-BeenWantingMeToOpenUpA-LittleBitMore... And-I-AmOpeningUpAsMuchToHerAsI-Can (Cue shot of a fireplace shown roaring a-flame… slurping kiss sounds… then back to his PI session) Andi-Is-SomebodyThat-I-Haven't-Had-These-StrongFeelingsIn-a-LongTime. (Smooch as he still holds his glass, then back to our favorite Jock Josh speaking) And-I-Know-It-IsVeryEarlyInTheProcessHereBut... I feel like there's some special connection that we're having that I haven't had before.
Andi (head to head with him): Two kisses this week. That’s pretty good.
Josh: That’s very good. I want more kisses.
Building shot at night.

I was trying to think what past contestant Josh reminds me the most of and it finally dawned on me. Sean Lowe on Emily’s season. He was slower in his delivery on his own season, but was a real motormouth with the Divine Miss Em. When trying to jot down his lines, I simply tossed my pen in the air and gave up.
Thanks for the transcripts JBF!!  It's hard when you can't see the vids so you doing the play by play really helps.   :cutesmile!: 

Thank you so much JBF!  clapping! 

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Post by JBF Tue Jun 10, 2014 7:57 pm

Awww... thanks...

Have to bring this over from the screencap thread. Just a little speculative thinking here... and also relating to the above "extracts".

Aunties_Love wrote:
nd4reality wrote:litta123 - I could have sworn I saw a second of a 4th guys leg in the clip.

BTW - In past seasons we have compared moles, elbows and feet. This season we are comparing jean clad backsides. Should have paid more attention in ep 1 to 4.
I think that I see Nick, Brian, and Dylan.  I don't see Chris in that picture at all.  Wonder if he did get another date in epi 7??

Regarding the whole question of whether or not Chris gets a 2nd solo date, I have to hurl a possible monkey wrench here.

That conversation that Chris had with Eric was strange in that it is suggesting they... along with Dylan... might have thought... or were told by somebody... that they were pre-scheduled for only one solo date and maybe to expect a second date, pre-hometowns, as just a remote possibility. "For all of us, it’s your first and last 1 on 1 date with Andi" were his exact words and these can be interpreted any number of ways. Maybe Chris is just being pessimistic and "assuming" he only has a one-time chance. Yet you have to wonder if a handler coached some of these guys. Was something "set up" this season?

Also I still question why she was so certain her "can be my husband" prospect would arrive in 10-15 minutes, a scene that was repeated on the recap show... and, humorously, they extended Marcus' scene longer so that Chris's quickie blink-and-you'll-miss arrival clip would better "fit" (kinda-sorta-not exactly) the 10 minutes better on the recap show. Yet why would she say that when, being last out of the limos with Juan, she would have SOME idea that it takes a lot more than 15 minutes for the limos to all arrive. Was she informed that her "best matches" were in limos #1 and #2? Of course, she may easily "fall for" somebody in a later limo instead, but perhaps there was a higher quota of Bachelor candidates, also-rans and guys simply here to be on TV in the others? We have to note that many (not all of course) of these guys were, in fact, cast before Mike Fleiss was 100% certain Andi had the lead role.

All of this is just outside-of-the-box speculation. I don't know... nor will ever know... the mechanics of this silly show "behind the scenes". Apparently, in Diamonds + Hearts, Chris... Siegfried... "hinted" (in so many words) he was confident as F1 going into Madeira, but the "why" he was confident is a total mystery. (Maybe he was simply brainwashed to think so... LOL! They all are. Or Des' poem confirmed it for him... or, as that couple said in Santa Anita... he just "kinda knew" he would be with Des for sizable chunk of his life.) Yet I could easily see the handlers deciding to give more "time" to those candidates that are more interesting to The Story rather than the End Result. Technically hometowns and fantasy dates are the real deciding factor of "make or break" with a frontrunner.

Do we have any information regarding who attended Eric's funeral? Was anybody allowed to leave and come back? Not that I need to "pry", but it certainly would toss a curve ball if a top 4 finalist was allowed to come back.

Yet one thing is for certain. I do NOT trust anything on screen as completely UN-planned and UN-rehearsed. Maybe the guys are not actors, but the settings they are put in are definitely planned for specific reasons. If they want to BURY a finalist, they will do so. If they want to fool Contestant A into thinking Contestant B "won", it is quite easy to do.
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Post by 2observe Tue Jun 10, 2014 10:07 pm

Interesting post JBF.  We will be able to better determine if Chris and Andi's storyline moves forward after the next episode.  If we don't see any SQT between Chris and Andi, then I seriously don't think he will make it pass the F4 guy.
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Post by JBF Wed Jun 11, 2014 12:50 am

My guess is that we will NOT see much of Andi and Chris on Monday. I mean... they showed nothing since his date in episode #2, so why bother now? Chris is, in the fact, the first top 4 finalist... I recall... to be getting no 1 on 1 sessions with the lead two episodes in a row. Maybe somebody can correct me. Ed was missing part of Jillian's season.

Four possible reasons why:

1.) Their relationship is so dull that there's nothing worth showing. Chris is just being strung along into top 4 by default. Let's face it, she is ONLY into Nick and Josh... and Marcus is "hot". Nobody else. (Folks here feel I should send an apology card and flowers to Reality Steve for questioning him each season. I'm ssssooooooo sorry. I don't know why I constantly question him. Something is wrong with me mentally, I guess...)

2.) Chris is the "mole" who is simply counseling Andi on who to choose.

3.) Production wants some of the guys, in addition to Reality Steve, to think she's with Josh for whatever reason... at least for a little while longer. Last year, a couple of guys on MTA made it clear they didn't like Brooks for some reason and I suspect Desiree went along with the spoilers out of spite.

4.) The editors feel they showed more than enough on their b-o-r-i-n-g "friend zone" Santa Anita date (which Litta here claims to have slept through while gathering screencaps)
I dunno... I tried to make comparisons to past 'ette seasons. Not much of a match, I guess. Didn't include Emily here.:
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Post by docnash14 Wed Jun 11, 2014 1:04 am

nannymargie wrote:I guess saying Stop is a southern thing.  We say it alot here and it does not just refer to when we are asked a question.  If someone is telling us something that is true  we say Stop as in I can't believe it.  So I guess this is why Andi saying this does not bother me.

I also live in the south and am like you in that I am not bothered by either her Stop or y'all. In fact, I use a derivative of the latter - you all - frequently myself.

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