Bachelorette 10: Edit-Storyline - *SPOILERS* - should we bother? Oooohhhh... why not?

bilolo wrote:But you know Stuckinsc she can't be the same because Josh is in the style of what she's used to (and it did not work), so she really has to dig deep and see if she can trust someone like that again. To be fair you should understand that her perspective is different with the two guys. imo
You just can't expect her to be the same when you take into account her back story.

But to be fair to Josh, you shouldn't hold other peoples' actions against him. From what I have read Andi broke up with her jock boyfriend to go on the bachelor. To me that means the jock wasn't that bad to her.

I get that Josh is so her "type", but since he has been nothing but nice to everyone in the house (except maybe Andrew) and has been a very good sport on all the group dates, it seems that he deserves a little credit and not to have Andi's past held against him. Her past is not his fault.

I have told my real life friends things similar to this. You can't hold other peoples actions against someone that didn't do it. It isn't fair and will hurt your current relationship.

That is why I prefer Andi with Nick, so far she isn't that sharp edged person I don't care for with him.

stuckinsc wrote:

bilolo wrote:But you know Stuckinsc she can't be the same because Josh is in the style of what she's used to (and it did not work), so she really has to dig deep and see if she can trust someone like that again. To be fair you should understand that her perspective is different with the two guys. imo
You just can't expect her to be the same when you take into account her back story.

But to be fair to Josh, you shouldn't hold other peoples' actions against him.  From what I have read Andi broke up with her jock boyfriend to go on the bachelor.  To me that means the jock wasn't that bad to her.  

I get that Josh is so her "type", but since he has been nothing but nice to everyone in the house (except maybe Andrew) and has been a very good sport on all the group dates, it seems that he deserves a little credit and not to have Andi's past held against him.  Her past is not his fault.

I have told my real life friends things similar to this.  You can't hold other peoples actions against someone that didn't do it.  It isn't fair and will hurt your current relationship.

That is why I prefer Andi with Nick, so far she isn't that sharp edged person I don't care for with him.

I agree but it's much easier said than done, when you've been hurt by somebody, you can't help but second guess yourself or be mefiant to not do the same mistake again.

bilolo wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

bilolo wrote:But you know Stuckinsc she can't be the same because Josh is in the style of what she's used to (and it did not work), so she really has to dig deep and see if she can trust someone like that again. To be fair you should understand that her perspective is different with the two guys. imo
You just can't expect her to be the same when you take into account her back story.

But to be fair to Josh, you shouldn't hold other peoples' actions against him.  From what I have read Andi broke up with her jock boyfriend to go on the bachelor.  To me that means the jock wasn't that bad to her.  

I get that Josh is so her "type", but since he has been nothing but nice to everyone in the house (except maybe Andrew) and has been a very good sport on all the group dates, it seems that he deserves a little credit and not to have Andi's past held against him.  Her past is not his fault.

I have told my real life friends things similar to this.  You can't hold other peoples actions against someone that didn't do it.  It isn't fair and will hurt your current relationship.

That is why I prefer Andi with Nick, so far she isn't that sharp edged person I don't care for with him.

I agree but it's much easier said than done, when you've been hurt by somebody, you can't help but second guess yourself or be mefiant to not do the same mistake again.

If he hurt her I agree, but all we have heard Andi say is that is was a good relationship, just not her "GREAT" love. Since Andi seems to like the direct route, if that relationship was bad then I think she would have said so. And if she did the standard leave him to go on the bachelor, then she is kind of the culprit of the two.

I just don't see her having been hurt by a past relationship, so why test Josh so much and prod him so much? I admit, my favoritism of Josh may make this seem worse to me than it is.

Responding to the above post but it's getting really long so I didn't quote.

Andi seemed to have told Marcus, during their 1-1 dinner convo, that she had been cheated on.

Let's not forget that Marcus was a pro-soccer player in Europe so he is a former jock as much as Josh.  I think she just responds to each as individuals, not as jocks at this point.  If she had a stereotypic view of jocks at the beginning of the show she has had time to get to know a few of them: Josh, Marcus, the other soccer player, Nick S, and although he is not a former pro Brian could be considered a jock as well.

If any of these jocks are coming across as stereotypic, then it is their own doing.  Marcus, at age 25, is an example of someone who has left that stereotype in his past ... If he ever was it.

notarose wrote:Responding to the above post but it's getting really long so I didn't quote.

Andi seemed to have told Marcus, during their 1-1 dinner convo, that she had been cheated on.

Let's not forget that Marcus was a pro-soccer player in Europe so he is a former jock as much as Josh.  I think she just responds to each as individuals, not as jocks at this point.  If she had a stereotypic view of jocks at the beginning of the show she has had time to get a few of them: Josh, Marcus, the other soccer player, Nick S, and although he is not a former pro Brian could be considered a jock as well.

If any of these jocks are coming across as stereotypic, then it is their own doing.  Marcus, at age 25, is an example of someone who has left that stereotype in his past ... If he ever was it.

I confess, I FFed through their dinner, they were boring me by then and I wanted to get to the concert and try to see that smoking hot chemistry I saw when the photos first came out. So I may have missed that.

I am okay with others liking Andi, so far I really only like her when she is with Nick. That may change or it may not. I am open. I grew to like Emily more during her season, then actually started disliking her somewhat when she kept making Arie jump through hoops.

I expected to really dislike JPG and ended up loving him and having him personally be one of my favorite bachelors.

I was neutral on Des and that didn't change until way after her season when I saw that she was genuinely in love with Chris and making him happy.

I will let this discussion go since, most seem to like Andi and think she is doing well on the show.

notarose wrote:Responding to the above post but it's getting really long so I didn't quote.

Andi seemed to have told Marcus, during their 1-1 dinner convo, that she had been cheated on.

Let's not forget that Marcus was a pro-soccer player in Europe so he is a former jock as much as Josh.  I think she just responds to each as individuals, not as jocks at this point.  If she had a stereotypic view of jocks at the beginning of the show she has had time to get to know a few of them: Josh, Marcus, the other soccer player, Nick S, and although he is not a former pro Brian could be considered a jock as well.

If any of these jocks are coming across as stereotypic, then it is their own doing.  Marcus, at age 25, is an example of someone who has left that stereotype in his past ... If he ever was it.

Hey, she's the one that says 'Jock' and 'Hot' to that stupid word game played.

atem wrote:

notarose wrote:Responding to the above post but it's getting really long so I didn't quote.

Andi seemed to have told Marcus, during their 1-1 dinner convo, that she had been cheated on.

Let's not forget that Marcus was a pro-soccer player in Europe so he is a former jock as much as Josh.  I think she just responds to each as individuals, not as jocks at this point.  If she had a stereotypic view of jocks at the beginning of the show she has had time to get to know a few of them: Josh, Marcus, the other soccer player, Nick S, and although he is not a former pro Brian could be considered a jock as well.

If any of these jocks are coming across as stereotypic, then it is their own doing.  Marcus, at age 25, is an example of someone who has left that stereotype in his past ... If he ever was it.

Hey, she's the one that says 'Jock' and 'Hot' to that stupid word game played.

Yes I remember that interview.
Chris - hot farmer
Nick - sensitive
Marcus - hot
Josh - jock

Anyone remember if it was an interview or a print article? It was posted somewhere in the forum. She might have given the interview just before the epi where these qualities were shown or discussed.

^^ it was a interview

notarose wrote:

atem wrote:

notarose wrote:Responding to the above post but it's getting really long so I didn't quote.

Andi seemed to have told Marcus, during their 1-1 dinner convo, that she had been cheated on.

Let's not forget that Marcus was a pro-soccer player in Europe so he is a former jock as much as Josh.  I think she just responds to each as individuals, not as jocks at this point.  If she had a stereotypic view of jocks at the beginning of the show she has had time to get to know a few of them: Josh, Marcus, the other soccer player, Nick S, and although he is not a former pro Brian could be considered a jock as well.

If any of these jocks are coming across as stereotypic, then it is their own doing.  Marcus, at age 25, is an example of someone who has left that stereotype in his past ... If he ever was it.

Hey, she's the one that says 'Jock' and 'Hot' to that stupid word game played.

Yes I remember that interview.
Chris - hot farmer
Nick - sensitive
Marcus - hot
Josh - jock

Anyone remember if it was an interview or a print article?  It was posted somewhere in the forum. She might have given the interview just before the epi where these qualities were shown or discussed.

It was an interview on e with the Kristen bird - check videos it will be there

I'm pretty sure it was watch w Kristin @ eonline. Can't believe I actually rem that..guess b/c I usually like Kristin's scoop.  . ...oops! Already posted

b wrote:I'm pretty sure it was watch w Kristin @ eonline. Can't believe I actually rem that..guess b/c I usually like Kristin's scoop.  . ...oops! Already posted

Here's the link
http://www.eonline.com/videos/222068/bachelorette-andi-dorfman-rates-her-men

stuckinsc wrote:

bilolo wrote:But you know Stuckinsc she can't be the same because Josh is in the style of what she's used to (and it did not work), so she really has to dig deep and see if she can trust someone like that again. To be fair you should understand that her perspective is different with the two guys. imo
You just can't expect her to be the same when you take into account her back story.

But to be fair to Josh, you shouldn't hold other peoples' actions against him.  From what I have read Andi broke up with her jock boyfriend to go on the bachelor.  To me that means the jock wasn't that bad to her.  

I get that Josh is so her "type", but since he has been nothing but nice to everyone in the house (except maybe Andrew) and has been a very good sport on all the group dates, it seems that he deserves a little credit and not to have Andi's past held against him.  Her past is not his fault.

I have told my real life friends things similar to this.  You can't hold other peoples actions against someone that didn't do it.  It isn't fair and will hurt your current relationship.

That is why I prefer Andi with Nick, so far she isn't that sharp edged person I don't care for with him.

exactly! couldnt agree more.. i like --borrowing Eric's word--the real Andi when she is around Nick. when she isnt playing her game to be Fleiss's best Ette (read:puppet) ever and a feisty fearless prosecutor to the guys

im all in with Josh as next TB too, stuc. Purple club unite!!