Re: Juan Pablo & Nikki Ferrell Facebook - Twitter Updates - Fan Forum -Discussion - Thread #3

[LMW707]

I'm curious...Do any of you know if the other girls knew that Nikki met Camilla, his parents & Carla when they were in Miami. That seemed like JPG's real home town date. The other dates were just fillers. I would have thought that the rest of them would have thought it was over for them. Every interview I have seen with Clare nobody ever asked if that bothered her. Which leads me to believe that Nikki didn't tell the other girls. Or it would make Clare look foolish for her "big" ending.

[Isabel123]

Since they are watching the "Hunger Games", i can't help reposting this article by Youyoung Lee.

Why This Season Of 'The Bachelor' Was Basically 'The Hunger Games'
Posted: 03/13/2014 4:02 pm EDT Updated: 03/14/2014 8:59 am EDT Print ArticleBACHELOR

The protagonist of a televised competition series dissents against his authorities, threatening to break all of the rules. His rebellion enrages the show's big bad executives, who scheme to dispose of the contestant in an effort to quiet his supporters -- and save their livelihoods.

One question: Is this "The Bachelor" or "The Hunger Games" we're talking about?



It's not as far-fetched an analogy as one might think. In fact, throughout this season of "The Bachelor," similarities abound between the beloved ABC reality show and the blockbuster movie trilogy about a kind of reality show. What are "reapings" if not a form of casting call? The female contestants of "The Bachelor" make their entrances by shimmying out of limousines, sporting evening gowns and gags such as pregnant bellies and stethoscopes. In "The Hunger Games," tributes come in boy-girl pairs, and are introduced to the public through their heavily-styled getups ("girl on fire!") and deadly talent (archery). Both competitions feature contestants who are no more than show ponies, first admired for their beauty, then systematically destroyed.

Why? Because it makes for great entertainment. But also because the competitions provide hope. Just consider how President Snow, the villainous ruler of Panem, explains the need for a winner of the Hunger Games: "[Hope] is the only thing stronger than fear." And what could be more hopeful than love? ABC executives have peddled "The Bachelor" and its spin-off series, "The Bachelorette," for a whopping total of 27 seasons by promising such hope: of marriage, of true love, of more awkward televised wedding ceremonies. Their manipulative fantasy yields lucrative results, with 10.1 million viewers tuning in to this season's finale. It's a big business. Only now someone's come along to call bullshit on it all.

His name is Juan Pablo Galavis, of course, the 32-year-old former soccer player touted as the show's first "foreign" Bachelor. The Venezuelan star's previous anti-gay remarks and limited "ess okay" vocabulary had branded him all-around jerk well before Monday night's contentious final rose ceremony. He also neglected to propose to the "Bachelor" finalist, Nikki Ferrell, used as evidence of JP's insincerity about finding love, even though he was hardly the first contestant to do so. But it was his refusal to utter an I-love-you to Nikki that riled host Chris Harrison the most during the live "After the Final Rose" special. The resulting dialogue can only be described as a power struggle between Juan Pablo and the ever-intermeddling host:



chrisHarrison: How do you feel about this woman?
JP: I feel fantastic about this woman...
Harrison: How do you feel about her?
JP: Chris! I feel great! I'm very honest to her.
Harrison: So you love her?
JP: I'm not going to answer that question to you.
Harrison: What do you mean you don't say that?
JP: We're done with the show. We're so done.

Had Harrison donned gaudy eyeliner and blue hair, he could almost be mistaken for Caesar Flickerman, the love-happy master of ceremonies so excellently portrayed by Stanley Tucci in the "Hunger Games" films. In reality, Harrison is both host and executive producer of the show, which means he's also not above bullying tactics similar to those of Panem's evil President Snow. What Juan Pablo delivered wasn't the season finale Harrison wanted or the "big surprise" ABC execs had been promised. Just as Katniss Everdeen threatened the Capitol, Juan Pablo disrespected the administration by calling out the hypocrisy of the show's entire premise: that falling in love in seven weeks is preposterous. JP's resistance to profess love for Nikki was a crack in the entire "Bachelor" institution: even the Bachelor himself was refusing to play the game laid out for him.



Juan Pablo wasn't the only one to buck tradition in this version of "The Bachelor Games." Contestants Sharleen Joynt and Andi Dorfman walked away from the show before formal elimination, citing their inability to see a future with Juan Pablo as the reason for their departure. "I knew he wasn't the one for me ultimately … we just didn't get each other completely," Joynt admitted during the "Women Tell All" special. Their rejection of the game is akin to tributes in "The Hunger Games" who refuse to fight. Juan Pablo finds his Peeta instead in Nikki, a child nurse whose loyalty to Juan Pablo far exceeds her loyalty to the show. They win; "The Bachelor" loses.

On the opposite end of the battle, Season 17's Sean Lowe could be seen as a career tribute, in both build and belief. A Stepford Bachelor if there ever was one, he appears to have been perfectly bred for the role. Lowe, who is now married to "The Bachelor" contestant Catherine Giudici, showed just how seriously he takes "The Bachelor" business when he slammed JP on Twitter: "You owe it to the fans and network to open up. That's the job."

Considering that Suzanne Collins, the author of "The Hunger Games" books, modeled her dystopian future after one that mimicked the gladiatorial games of the past and our reality show-crazed culture of the present, it's unsurprising there should exist so many parallels. But in a classic case of life imitating art imitating life, "The Bachelor" closed the circle with Monday night's finale by producing its own uprising.

ABC executives have been trying to convince us for years that their show is a legitimate platform for finding true love -- despite the fact that only five couples (not including JP and Nikki) in "Bachelor" history remain together. But their world isn't real life. By subverting the system, Juan Pablo Galavis is the hero reality TV has been dreading.

Follow Youyoung Lee on Twitter: @youyoung_lee.

[chinita]

I can only say, these two lovebirds are a match made from heaven. And Yes! he started to fall for in episode 4 in Vietnam.  All the things JP is doing with her now, you can see he's insanely in love. He doesn't need to say ILY!! His actions speak louder than words. I also believe they are getting closer to get engaged very soon and I'm sure Nikki is feeling it too.

[Isabel123]

I'm curious...Do any of you know if the other girls knew that Nikki met Camilla, his parents & Carla when they were in Miami.  That seemed like JPG's real home town date.  The other dates were just fillers.  I would have thought that the rest of them would have thought it was over for them. Every interview I have seen with Clare nobody ever asked if that bothered her. Which leads me to believe that Nikki didn't tell the other girls. Or it would make Clare look foolish for her "big" ending.

IMO, the girls remain unaware and know about it during the actual airing of episode 7. The only one who might have an inkling is probably Andi. Nikki might have spilled some tidbits. If Andi is aware and smart as she is, she definitely had an idea that Nikki has an edge.

[notarose]

I'm curious...Do any of you know if the other girls knew that Nikki met Camilla, his parents & Carla when they were in Miami.  That seemed like JPG's real home town date.  The other dates were just fillers.  I would have thought that the rest of them would have thought it was over for them. Every interview I have seen with Clare nobody ever asked if that bothered her. Which leads me to believe that Nikki didn't tell the other girls. Or it would make Clare look foolish for her "big" ending.

IMO, the girls remain unaware and know about it during the actual airing of episode 7. The only one who might have an inkling is probably Andi. Nikki might have spilled some tidbits. If Andi is aware and smart as she is, she definitely had an idea that Nikki has an edge.

I agree with Isabel.

Nikki's meeting the family in Miami was never mentioned at the WTA and Clare was never asked about it in the 3 interviews I know of that she gave since the show ended.

I don't think Nikki told anyone who was still there: Clare, Renee, Chelsey.  That leaves a possibility of Andi.
Sharleen said she wasn't able to say goodbye to Nikki before she left in Miami. Never could figure that one out because Sharleen waited for JPG to return from his date with Nikki so she could tell him she was leaving.  If JPG was back for Sharleen to tell him, where was Nikki? Doing an interview maybe? Anyway, Nikki couldn't have told her.

[chinita]

I also think Nikki told Andi only coz Andi told Nikki about her date with JPG. Remember the part where Andi showed Nikki the dance movement with JPG at the club?

[notarose]

I also think Nikki told Andi only coz Andi told Nikki about her date with JPG.  Remember the part where Andi showed Nikki the dance movement with JPG at the club?

Good one, Chinita! Proof that they seemed to have shared some details of their dates.

[LMW707]

I'm curious...Do any of you know if the other girls knew that Nikki met Camilla, his parents & Carla when they were in Miami.  That seemed like JPG's real home town date.  The other dates were just fillers.  I would have thought that the rest of them would have thought it was over for them. Every interview I have seen with Clare nobody ever asked if that bothered her. Which leads me to believe that Nikki didn't tell the other girls. Or it would make Clare look foolish for her "big" ending.

IMO, the girls remain unaware and know about it during the actual airing of episode 7. The only one who might have an inkling is probably Andi. Nikki might have spilled some tidbits. If Andi is aware and smart as she is, she definitely had an idea that Nikki has an edge.

Andi was upset that he didn't ask anything about her in the fantasy suite.  IMO, It was because he wasn't interested. Not sure what my thoughts on Clare are other than her actions seemed very desperate. She is continuing to do interviews regarding the finale.  I just watched one from a local Sacramento show and it was the same thing over and over again. My friends son was on CMT Sweet Home Alabama City boys vs. Country boys. He was the city boy in the final 2. He said those interviews after can sometimes go 15-20 takes to get what the producers want. A lot of "power of suggestion"

[chinita]

What a great article!!   This is my favorite part: Juan Pablo finds his Peeta instead in Nikki, a child nurse whose loyalty to Juan Pablo far exceeds her loyalty to the show. They win; "The Bachelor" loses.  :Clap: 

[LMW707]

 

What a great article!!   This is my favorite part: Juan Pablo finds his Peeta instead in Nikki, a child nurse whose loyalty to Juan Pablo far exceeds her loyalty to the show. They win; "The Bachelor" loses.  :Clap: 

  

[notarose]

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[chinita]

"We didn't jut try, we actually stayed" Good one JPG!!  

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