The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers*

I'll go on record as believing it is not fake. You never know what will come back to haunt you in life. Strange coincidences happen all the time. Whoever took the video is pretty ballsy, but if I were in that situation I would try to do it too. Think about how wired you would be if you found yourself in that situation. I think he thought he was being vague by not mentioning any names, so no one would know what he was talking about. Pretty damn funny!! Sure hope he's not in trouble, though.

My point is he never mentioned any names, even though it sounds like he was talking about Jason. I'm not saying it wasn't about him, or even Andi, just that if I want proof of something, I would like to have names mentioned. That's all.

He 100% says Josh by his name.

Ash, I'm talking about the second video, not the first.

sanlee088 wrote:It almost sounds too good to be true like it was staged for Nick to talk loud so others can hear..I know it isn't but it almost seems like it. Maybe it was meant for people to hear for a reason...Lol and Hmm I can't say I haven't gotten this type of info or something similar before. just saying! ;)  

This seems odd to me too. They are too careful to let this happen, I am not convinced, this could be a huge foiler!

I have a question and I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I don't have time to back through all the pages...

I re-watched the videos and was struck by how still the camera was. It never moved position at all as best I could tell. Is that odd? I don't take a lot of videos with my phone so maybe I'm making a big deal out of nothing. However, it just seemed pretty staged for someone who was taking a video on the sly. I'd love to hear someone's perspective on this especially if you take a lot on videos on your phone.

provenceguy wrote:I don't believe that Nick is that good of an actor to pull this off.
Seems authentic to me...

I didn't think Des was that good of an actress either and I knew her better than we know Nick.

Litta123 wrote:I have a question and I apologize if this has already been discussed, but I don't have time to back through all the pages...

I re-watched the videos and was struck by how still the camera was. It never moved position at all as best I could tell. Is that odd? I don't take a lot of videos with my phone so maybe I'm making a big deal out of nothing. However, it just seemed pretty staged for someone who was taking a video on the sly. I'd love to hear someone's perspective on this especially if you take a lot on videos on your phone.

Unless I'm moving, like walking/dancing/etc., I can hold my iPhone very still especially when seated. It would be very easy for the person recording to simply hold the camera and for no one around to know they are filming.

^^Thanks, umn. I can understand bracing the phone. The person must have had pretty steady hands. I'd have been so nervous knowing I might get caught. I'd likely have the shakes...but that's me.

The top portion of all my videos from my phone have my finger in them.   

If Fleiss et al were trying to foil RS, why would they use the actual runner-up in Nick?  The video just reinforces Steve's F2 spoiler (minus the actual winner).  Why bring attention to him and his spoilers?  I tend to think it's real, but that's me.

In other Bachelorette-related news, Steve's morning video interview with the Kidd Kraddick show is online.  The female DJ looks at the cast photos and realizes that a while ago she "hooked up" with the contestant from Dallas - Marcus.  Small world.   

moonpie wrote:If Fleiss et al were trying to foil RS, why would they use the actual runner-up in Nick?  The video just reinforces Steve's F2 spoiler (minus the actual winner).  Why bring attention to him and his spoilers?  I tend to think it's real, but that's me.

In other Bachelorette-related news, Steve's morning video interview with the Kidd Kraddick show is online.  The female DJ looks at the cast photos and realizes that a while ago she "hooked up" with the contestant from Dallas - Marcus.  Small world.   

What? I don't believe that.