The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers*

Andi just retweeted her sister Rachel's tweet about the two of them spending Memorial Day Weekend together this weekend and right around the same time as it was there about 30 minutes ago, Josh deleted his tweet with that picture he posted on Instagram about reputation and character. At least it's not there for me anymore anyways. This could be absolutely nothing, but I thought it was weird. I'm not sure why he would delete it off of Twitter. It's still there on his Instagram though.

murasaki1393 wrote:Soooo just bc we are in a Murray topic...

Obviously she saved the best for last! @jmurbulldog

— stephanie murray (@stephmurray11) May 20, 2014

Am i the only one who think she was referring to more than Josh 's limo arrival order? . I maybe way off though ...

I kind of thought so too. Also he hashtagged a tweet with #DreamsAreComingTrue. Again could be nothing, but I noticed he said "dreams" instead of dream.

Thanks for the response, Ash. I notice We often think alike . Just a lil suggestion, Since i know you are one Murrays's religious stalker here . if possible, pls take a screenshot of any finding, so the evidence can still be kept even when it is deleted /edited by the owner right after.

I believe we have the Clear How To procedure in the technical thread.

We appreciate your work (and sharing) so much!  :Clap:  

Ash2214 wrote:Andi just retweeted her sister Rachel's tweet about the two of them spending Memorial Day Weekend together this weekend and right around the same time as it was there about 30 minutes ago, Josh deleted his tweet with that picture he posted on Instagram about reputation and character. At least it's not there for me anymore anyways. This could be absolutely nothing, but I thought it was weird. I'm not sure why he would delete it off of Twitter. It's still there on his Instagram though.

Ash, I just checked and I no longer see his tweet either (but, like you, still find it on IG). I agree that it's curious. Don't know why he would given its content. Wonder if somehow it showed his location?

Andi's sister Rachel a few minutes after the tweet you referenced tweeted a picture of herself and whom I assume is her husband. No sight of Andi. And Rachel doesn't tweet very often; prior to the one about spending the weekend with Andi, she posted last in March.

docnash14 wrote:Andi's sister Rachel tweeted a picture of herself and whom I assume is her husband

That is Rachel's husband.  I remember him from the hometown date last season.

Josh and Andi are making this too easy. I mean tweeting at the same time---or close to the same time---is definitely a sign they are together. Chris and Des did the same thing.   

CHO wrote:Is there any thought that Andi might have decided to date both Josh and Nick after the filming - and make her decision at the ATFR show ?  This keeps the final result completely secret which TPTB obviously want.  I was thinking that perhaps Nick thought he had it in the bag but then Andi told him that she wanted to date both.  There is something hard to grasp about the airplane recording - especially because we are sure the contestants are quite aware of the rules.  Then the photo shows up of Nick with the earbuds and the 5'oclock shadow.  I'm waiting for a little more proof about Josh being F1 - looks very possible but not necessarily a sure thing.

I agree with the bolded.

I would like to say something, but really don't want to offend or make anyone feel I am picking on anyone. I just think these things should be said.... If this is a problematic post, please remove it admin.

From reading the various posts here, it seems that Chris is being forgotten from the race as Andi wouldn't move to the country...what if it is Chris that moves?? It seems that only Josh and Nick are the horses in this race with no thoughts to anyone else. I think that maybe discounting Chris without another thought may be a shortcoming.


Fleiss has said that he will make every effort to keep the f1 hidden. Due to his foiler during Des's season, I am putting it beyond him to do it again and as such, I think it is really important keep it in mind. What better way to make people think that Josh is the F1 by putting out that video...heck, probably has fooled a lot of people out there. But one thing to keep in mind, why hasn't it been picked up by others...probably because Fleiss is only concerned with making RS look like a fool again. Heck, for all we know, those magazines may of been told not to believe RS if they want to keep getting support from Fleiss, meanwhile, Fleiss is only concerned with making RS look like an idiot so therefore, he'll be the only one running with the video.

Do we know for sure who's been on twitter/facebook and when?

I am seeing so much input for Josh and how he's so perfect....what if he's "too" perfect and that video of Nick is also making him even more "perfect"? What if we are in another age old battle of the cobra(RS) and mongoose(Fleiss) and maybe Josh isn't F1? I think that should also be equally entertained and not just dropped like the hot potato thought of Chris being F1.

murasaki1393 wrote:Soooo just bc we are in a Murray topic...

Obviously she saved the best for last! @jmurbulldog

— stephanie murray (@stephmurray11) May 20, 2014

Am i the only one who think she was referring to more than Josh 's limo arrival order? . I maybe way off though ...

I really don't think this is relating to Josh POSSIBLY being F1. I think it's so easy to read things into it when you are talking about a fave.

Ash2214 wrote:

murasaki1393 wrote:Soooo just bc we are in a Murray topic...

Obviously she saved the best for last! @jmurbulldog

— stephanie murray (@stephmurray11) May 20, 2014

Am i the only one who think she was referring to more than Josh 's limo arrival order? . I maybe way off though ...

I kind of thought so too. Also he hashtagged a tweet with #DreamsAreComingTrue. Again could be nothing, but I noticed he said "dreams" instead of dream.

It's so easy to read stuff into comments when talking about a fave. I really think that objectively looking at it, it could mean any amount of things...not all comments can ONLY relate to Josh POSSIBLY being F1.

Aunties_Love wrote:

CHO wrote:Is there any thought that Andi might have decided to date both Josh and Nick after the filming - and make her decision at the ATFR show ?  This keeps the final result completely secret which TPTB obviously want.  I was thinking that perhaps Nick thought he had it in the bag but then Andi told him that she wanted to date both.  There is something hard to grasp about the airplane recording - especially because we are sure the contestants are quite aware of the rules.  Then the photo shows up of Nick with the earbuds and the 5'oclock shadow.  I'm waiting for a little more proof about Josh being F1 - looks very possible but not necessarily a sure thing.

I agree with the bolded.

I would like to say something, but really don't want to offend or make anyone feel I am picking on anyone.  I just think these things should be said....  If this is a problematic post, please remove it admin.

From reading the various posts here, it seems that Chris is being forgotten from the race as Andi wouldn't move to the country...what if it is Chris that moves??  It seems that only Josh and Nick are the horses in this race with no thoughts to anyone else.  I think that maybe discounting Chris without another thought may be a shortcoming.  


Fleiss has said that he will make every effort to keep the f1 hidden.  Due to his foiler during Des's season, I am putting it beyond him to do it again and as such, I think it is really important keep it in mind.  What better way to make people think that Josh is the F1 by putting out that video...heck, probably has fooled a lot of people out there.  But one thing to keep in mind, why hasn't it been picked up by others...probably because Fleiss is only concerned with making RS look like a fool again.  Heck, for all we know, those magazines may of been told not to believe RS if they want to keep getting support from Fleiss, meanwhile, Fleiss is only concerned with making RS look like an idiot so therefore, he'll be the only one running with the video.

Do we know for sure who's been on twitter/facebook and when?

I am seeing so much input for Josh and how he's so perfect....what if he's "too" perfect and that video of Nick is also making him even more "perfect"?  What if we are in another age old battle of the cobra(RS) and mongoose(Fleiss) and maybe Josh isn't F1?  I think that should also be equally entertained and not just dropped like the hot potato thought of Chris being F1.

So are we now going to believe anything that Fleiss say? For me if TPBT say anything I am going to believe the opposite.. Do anyone have any evidence to support any of the other F4 besides just not believing what RS said or not believing the video because it's too convenient?

I don't necessarily have a fave, but I do think she picks Josh in the end. No absolute proof, jmo. I am, however, going to watch each episode and see how the show plays out. There could always be surprises along the way (or not) as you just never know with this show. I would love to see a surprise at the end, but that's just me.

May I kindly remind everyone, whether members believe RS or not, that is their right. Sleuthers who want to continue sleuthing regardless of the spoilers, that is also their right.

Please refrain from trying to make others to see one side of the story.

Posting your thoughts on why you think the spoilers are right or wrong are most welcomed.

However, please do not waste your energy trying to convince people you're right.