The Bachelorette 10 - *Final 1-F2* - Speculation * Sleuthing - Spoilers*

stuckinsc wrote:

provenceguy wrote:I don't believe that Nick is that good of an actor to pull this off.
Seems authentic to me...

I didn't think Des was that good of an actress either and I knew her better than we know Nick.

No Des was not a good actress on her season or Sean's. Plus Nick's face was never shown at all during those video's.

Sarah_XV wrote:

quietpal wrote:

GuardianAngel wrote:

Sarah_XV wrote:When he says 'The guy changed his mind' He is talking about Jason Mesnick.

How do we know this?

Exactly, GA! He never mentions any names in the second clip.

It's pretty obvious, no?

He says...
"I didn’t try to change her mind, I’m just like, ‘I disagree'.......But she won’t…it’s ok. …it’s actually happened once….ummmm, it was the guy with the girl. The guy changed his mind. They’re actually (inaudible) and now they’re still married."

No it wasn't to me, that's why I asked.

atem wrote:

moonpie wrote:If Fleiss et al were trying to foil RS, why would they use the actual runner-up in Nick?  The video just reinforces Steve's F2 spoiler (minus the actual winner).  Why bring attention to him and his spoilers?  I tend to think it's real, but that's me.

In other Bachelorette-related news, Steve's morning video interview with the Kidd Kraddick show is online.  The female DJ looks at the cast photos and realizes that a while ago she "hooked up" with the contestant from Dallas - Marcus.  Small world.   

What? I don't believe that.   

She was looking through the bios and recognised him straight away. She said she hooked up with him and that he had a girlfriend at the time, but she only found that out after..

Sarah_XV wrote:

atem wrote:

moonpie wrote:If Fleiss et al were trying to foil RS, why would they use the actual runner-up in Nick?  The video just reinforces Steve's F2 spoiler (minus the actual winner).  Why bring attention to him and his spoilers?  I tend to think it's real, but that's me.

In other Bachelorette-related news, Steve's morning video interview with the Kidd Kraddick show is online.  The female DJ looks at the cast photos and realizes that a while ago she "hooked up" with the contestant from Dallas - Marcus.  Small world.   

What?  I don't believe that.    

She was looking through the bios and recognised him straight away. She said she hooked up with him and that he had a girlfriend at the time, but she only found that out after..

Not to mention, JC, one of the other hosts knows two other girls who hooked up with him. Now we don't know their definition of "hooked up" but I think it's safe to say Marcus doesn't lack options when it comes to female company.

Marcus is young and hot and I have no problem with him taking what is free offered to him if he is single. I am sure most of the men this season have had more than one female offer them a good time for a short time.

^I have no issue with it either. Although if the female cohost is correct, he did have a gf when they hooked up which she later found out. I guess I was just pointing out what the male cohost said because it shows what a small world it can be at times.

umngirl wrote:^I have no issue with it either. Although if the female cohost is correct, he did have a gf when they hooked up which she later found out. I guess I was just pointing out what the male cohost said because it shows what a small world it can be at times.

I don't listen to Kidd Kradick show anymore. I liked him, but the rest of the cast annoys the crap out of me. If I remember Jenna (?) is a bit of a ditz. Don't know that I trust her on the gf thing. Also don't know that I care. Now if he hooked up with Kelly then the women of this board should rejoice, he likes older women!

When do you all figure Andi will be done with promo for the show and return home ?

stuckinsc wrote:

umngirl wrote:^I have no issue with it either. Although if the female cohost is correct, he did have a gf when they hooked up which she later found out. I guess I was just pointing out what the male cohost said because it shows what a small world it can be at times.

I don't listen to Kidd Kradick show anymore.  I liked him, but the rest of the cast annoys the crap out of me.  If I remember Jenna (?) is a bit of a ditz.  Don't know that I trust her on the gf thing.  Also don't know that I care.  Now if he hooked up with Kelly then the women of this board should rejoice, he likes older women!

I live in Dallas and listen all the time. They are all well respected and, imo, are very reliable. No way she would lie about something on the air. No biggie that Marcus likes women and likes having fun, but it does show what a small world it is. Bachelor Nation has grown soooooo much. People are bound to know each other---six degrees of separation!

I applaud those who can maintain a reasonable doubt at the ending even with the video of Nick. That put the nail in the coffin for me, but it'll be fun to read what others come up with when sleuthing. I'm going to be watching for the hows and whys of the guys storylines now and hope it's entertaining.

A couple things I noticed:

Josh and Nick are never on a date together, similarly Nikki and Clare never had a date together. Maybe a new pattern from TPTB to keep an F2 they are trying to string along and get very bubbleized to not realize how strong of a connection the lead has with their favorite.

Also there's a PI from Andi when she's talking to Josh that is obviously done later, she has straight hair. And she is beaming. I've never seen her smile so big. She says she has to keep an eye on him and see if he's being completely genuine. Doesn't mention Josh so she could be talking about anyone, but man does she look happy! She is going to be head over heels for her guy by the end, that's for sure.

First off I don't know how people think that the Videos of Nick talking are staged.
He has been disconnected from the real world for so long.
I think he might have been talking to his brother Sam, who lived in Korea and just got home and was not there for his hometown date and was filling him in on everything. Nick did not know that RS had released his Bio and he never said Andi's name throughout the whole thing. He probably thought he could talk about it and no one would realize what he was saying or they would forget about what he said.
If these videos were staged I would be SHOCKED.
My instinct told me Josh would be F1 and I am just excited to see an actual love story from the beginning because that looks like what is going to be happening this season. I love Andi and Josh together so far.

relaxing wrote:I applaud those who can maintain a reasonable doubt at the ending even with the video of Nick.  That put the nail in the coffin for me, but it'll be fun to read what others come up with when sleuthing.  I'm going to be watching for the hows and whys of the guys storylines now and hope it's entertaining.

A couple things I noticed:

Josh and Nick are never on a date together, similarly Nikki and Clare never had a date together.  Maybe a new pattern from TPTB to keep an F2 they are trying to string along and get very bubbleized to not realize how strong of a connection the lead has with their favorite.

Also there's a PI from Andi when she's talking to Josh that is obviously done later, she has straight hair.  And she is beaming.  I've never seen her smile so big.  She says she has to keep an eye on him and see if he's being completely genuine.  Doesn't mention Josh so she could be talking about anyone, but man does she look happy!  She is going to be head over heels for her guy by the end, that's for sure.

Great catch!