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Re: Juan Pablo Galavis - Nikki Ferrell - Bachelor 18 - Discussion
People should own their own behavior. That is my opinion and I stick to it. If I am b***** and a man calls me that I don't hate on him for pointing out my truth.
Being a woman doesn't entitle us to not have to be responsible for our own actions. Maybe this is because I thought about equality extensively when I was growing up. The equal rights amendment was going state to state to be voted on.
If you truly want to be equal then you must take the good with the bad. That is just the way it is.
And yes, when we women call each other sl**s we also make that word more permissible.
I don't get a special pass on my behavior because I genetically have two X chromosomes. If you feel you do that is fine, but it is not how I want to be treated. I want my work and ideas to count equally, so I am prepared to own my own actions.
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JPG should take ownership of his degrading comments about people.
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English is not my first language and I wanted to make sure I have the exact meaning. How in the world does posting of somewhat revealing pictures equals to acting like a sl**? It must be a cultural thing, because in my country, it doesn't.Sl** = a promiscuous woman; especially : prostitute
She attacked him on SM, which was stupid of her, and I strongly disagree with people who do this. He attacked back, which might have been understandable, had he used another word. But sl**? JPG himself admitted he watched some of Jenna's older videos. Hey, no shame in that. I personally think people are free to watch whatever they want as long as nobody was forced to make said video or harmed. But you don't get to call someone sl**, when you are a porn consumer! That is hypocrisy at it's best. All JMO.
I don't hate JPG. And I believe he isn't a terrible person. But sometimes he says really stupid things.
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Re: Juan Pablo Galavis - Nikki Ferrell - Bachelor 18 - Discussion
BohemianNika wrote:I'm afraid this might be OT, but here goes:English is not my first language and I wanted to make sure I have the exact meaning. How in the world does posting of somewhat revealing pictures equals to acting like a sl**? It must be a cultural thing, because in my country, it doesn't.Sl** = a promiscuous woman; especially : prostitute
She attacked him on SM, which was stupid of her, and I strongly disagree with people who do this. He attacked back, which might have been understandable, had he used another word. But sl**? JPG himself admitted he watched some of Jenna's older videos. Hey, no shame in that. I personally think people are free to watch whatever they want as long as nobody was forced to make said video or harmed. But you don't get to call someone sl**, when you are a porn consumer! That is hypocrisy at it's best. All JMO.
I don't hate JPG. And I believe he isn't a terrible person. But sometimes he says really stupid things.
Great post! Remember that Juan said VERY degrading things to Clare on his show. (I really liked f@#%king you...) His true colors came out imo. No getting around that one. I believe people were willing to see if Nikki and Juan would make it. Not even close. I wish them both well and they both seem much happier actually. ;)
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Re: Juan Pablo Galavis - Nikki Ferrell - Bachelor 18 - Discussion
Amberish wrote:Well, well. Those standards keep dropping lower, lower and lower for good ol' Juan Pablo, don't they! Yes, we should all be impressed that he remembered that she once showed him a picture of a ring. Ding, ding, ding!
Know what impresses me? That there were those that actually believed the ring was a promise ring, or that Juan Pablo wanted to give Nikki a ring, or that Juan Pablo actually bought Nikki a gift, and now we know it wasn't anything like that.
Instead, the ring was a gift to Nikki from production and Juan Pablo helped CT surprise Nikki by helping to identifying the style of ring she had indicated she liked and by presenting CT's ring to Nikki, along with making it clear he wasn't committed to a long term relationship.
Is there any great significance to that ring from either Nikki or Juan Pablo? I doubt it, because it didn't come with anything meaningful, such as a proposal. It was only a prop and part of a reality TV show.
Whether the ring was from the production or not, the main point is, he remembered the one she likes. Also, if he didn't want to give it to her, he won't do it. Just like in the Bach, he didn't want to propose and he didn't.
I will be very happy if my husband pays attention of the things I like.
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Re: Juan Pablo Galavis - Nikki Ferrell - Bachelor 18 - Discussion
Amberish wrote:Well, well. Those standards keep dropping lower, lower and lower for good ol' Juan Pablo, don't they! Yes, we should all be impressed that he remembered that she once showed him a picture of a ring. Ding, ding, ding!
Know what impresses me? That there were those that actually believed the ring was a promise ring, or that Juan Pablo wanted to give Nikki a ring, or that Juan Pablo actually bought Nikki a gift, and now we know it wasn't anything like that.
Instead, the ring was a gift to Nikki from production and Juan Pablo helped CT surprise Nikki by helping to identifying the style of ring she had indicated she liked and by presenting CT's ring to Nikki, along with making it clear he wasn't committed to a long term relationship.
Is there any great significance to that ring from either Nikki or Juan Pablo? I doubt it, because it didn't come with anything meaningful, such as a proposal. It was only a prop and part of a reality TV show.
Just out of curiosity how do you know the ring was a prop from CT ? How do you know it was made in China ? How do you know it does not mean anything to Nikki ? No Juan was not ready to propose I get that but you are stating theses things as facts just wondering where you got your info. from.
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umngirl wrote:Considering Nikki has posed in photoshoots where is is barely clothed/has items distinctly covering certain areas, I wonder if JuanPa would call her a sl** too.
I do not agree that Juan should of posted what he did but there is quite a difference in what the other woman posted on her IG than what Nikki has posted. I have yet to see any pics. of Nikki in the nude on her IG. It still does not make it right what he said but you can not compare Nikki's pics. to the other woman's pics. IMO
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whit90 wrote:umngirl wrote:Considering Nikki has posed in photoshoots where is is barely clothed/has items distinctly covering certain areas, I wonder if JuanPa would call her a sl** too.
I do not agree that Juan should of posted what he did but there is quite a difference in what the other woman posted on her IG than what Nikki has posted. I have yet to see any pics. of Nikki in the nude on her IG. It still does not make it right what he said but you can not compare Nikki's pics. to the other woman's pics. IMO
The woman never exposes her lady bits or her tatas fully. Those parts are always covered or the angle conceals them. Same with Nikki's photos. I fail to see the difference other than this woman has more pictures.
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Re: Juan Pablo Galavis - Nikki Ferrell - Bachelor 18 - Discussion
umngirl wrote:whit90 wrote:umngirl wrote:Considering Nikki has posed in photoshoots where is is barely clothed/has items distinctly covering certain areas, I wonder if JuanPa would call her a sl** too.
I do not agree that Juan should of posted what he did but there is quite a difference in what the other woman posted on her IG than what Nikki has posted. I have yet to see any pics. of Nikki in the nude on her IG. It still does not make it right what he said but you can not compare Nikki's pics. to the other woman's pics. IMO
The woman never exposes her lady bits or her tatas fully. Those parts are always covered or the angle conceals them. Same with Nikki's photos. I fail to see the difference other than this woman has more pictures.
I do not see why Nikki has anything to do with this in the first place. I will disagree with you again that the other woman is showing a lot more than Nikki ever has.
Posters calling him a azzhole , douchebag, etc.., to me that is just as bad as calling some woman a s*** that you really do not know. Any name calling in my opinion is just wrong when you personally do not know the person. IMO
I know we will just have to agree to disagree ........
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Re: Juan Pablo Galavis - Nikki Ferrell - Bachelor 18 - Discussion
BohemianNika wrote:I'm afraid this might be OT, but here goes:English is not my first language and I wanted to make sure I have the exact meaning. How in the world does posting of somewhat revealing pictures equals to acting like a sl**? It must be a cultural thing, because in my country, it doesn't.Sl** = a promiscuous woman; especially : prostitute
She attacked him on SM, which was stupid of her, and I strongly disagree with people who do this. He attacked back, which might have been understandable, had he used another word. But sl**? JPG himself admitted he watched some of Jenna's older videos. Hey, no shame in that. I personally think people are free to watch whatever they want as long as nobody was forced to make said video or harmed. But you don't get to call someone sl**, when you are a porn consumer! That is hypocrisy at it's best. All JMO.
I don't hate JPG. And I believe he isn't a terrible person. But sometimes he says really stupid things.
I don't think he had to call her anything but there are definitely less offensive comments he could have made. I don't agree with what she posted either but he's the one who has a public image. You'd think he'd have learned after the gay comments he made.
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Hey guys, maybe it's just the language barrier or the culture????
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