Re: * No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 FINALE (LCD/MTP/FRC) Discussion- Thread #2

[2observe]

well. i have watched it again.... it is actuallly true. came out from Clare's mouth to our ears. TWICE. first,.in Clare's VO at LCD she said he told her he loves hooking up with her (she was still being polite then). and then...dun...dun...dun...she couldnt hold back and spilled the bean after FRC rejection in her ITM "Dont tell me that you loved f***ing me'". Eeeek!!! (the editor didnt bother to edited that out, btw!!) :shocked!:    :shocked!:. Im now convinced he is a douchebag..in the same category as Jesse Palmer...LOL

Boy the other girls have dodged a major bullet. Hope Nikki will soon too!!

Thanks Mura!  I really thought it what was said but didn`t have the heart to go back and watch it right then.

At least Nikki has him by the... um... well, he has to stay on his best behavior or else...
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At this point, I don't know what tabloid report to believe. Jillian and Ed stayed together for a year despite his Windy City frolics, which US Weekly took to the bank.

Or TPTB have him by the balls as well as Sean since they both were filmed in the shower.  There may be a nude pic (screencap) but where it comes from seems more likely to be TPTB then Nikki. ( my assumption).  It is so easy to have unnamed sources with no proof of the actual source.  Politicians use this tactic all the time - plant the seed and watch it grow.

I really don't think that a woman in love with her man would do that. jmo What would be her reason for sending it???

[Guest]

Ok, so I am just catching up... Was away for a few days without Internet connection. Felt so on another planet.

I am reading a few posts now and.... Whoaaaa !
So many sour grapes !!!
Both from rejected Clare and posters whose favorite wasn't picked...
Common people, no need to demonize the guy because he's not politically correct and didn't pick your favorite !

On the contrary I applaud JP for doing what he believes was right for him, and in fact the only lead with a child that took the right decision not to rush things. Good for him !
Also good that he has enough personality not to follow the others and pressure from the production. At least, he is not a puppet like some others...

[docnash14]

She made a horrible comment abt him as a father. Uncalled for imh. He should have said worse

Right! she get's an applause for her unnecessary comments that's not called for but he gets crucified for his.

What is wrong with a women expressing her honest opinion uncalled for but JuanP honest opinion is okay…..He is a man first and then a father, not a father and then a man……I think the world forgets that….just because you are a father doesn't make you a good man.

My point was just as she can can speak her peace and it be okay then why can't he and it be okay.

I noticed a double standard here. People claps when she insults him, people booh when he says " I am glad, I didn't pick." Everyone has their flaw and good just like Juan, and they made him out of a monster. Jason and Molly have a very good podcast that explains all that. It's called EDITS.

Totally agree

[notarose]

She made a horrible comment abt him as a father. Uncalled for imh. He should have said worse

Right! she get's an applause for her unnecessary comments that's not called for but he gets crucified for his.

What is wrong with a women expressing her honest opinion uncalled for but JuanP honest opinion is okay…..He is a man first and then a father, not a father and then a man……I think the world forgets that….just because you are a father doesn't make you a good man.

My point was just as she can can speak her peace and it be okay then why can't he and it be okay.

I noticed a double standard here. People claps when she insults him, people booh when he says " I am glad, I didn't pick." Everyone has their flaw and good just like Juan, and they made him out of a monster. Jason and Molly have a very good podcast that explains all that. It's called EDITS.

Totally agree

His response was vastly different than  when Kalon  said Emily had baggage (also a parenting slam) and Emily did her hood rat thing yet Emily was a media heroine for at least a week.

[Aunties_Love]

They bleeped it, but he said, "he loved f'ing her" in response to her question of do you love me. I agree she had the info she needed at that moment.

Thank you grace for posting that. People can judge for themselves as to the veracity of the comment.

Thanks to both of you for posting that. I was certain of what I heard, but am very glad that others heard it and saw the article too.

[JBF]

JBF, I understand you don't like him for not picking your fave. But, some tabloid are not to be believed period. Why don't we give them a chance. I think we all need to chill and let these 3 (Juan, Nikki and Clare) move on with their lives.
Des got a good article and great exhortation for all of us.

Pffft! I have no favorites. I thought it was so hilarious that we all forgot this tabloid tidbit during all of the Discussion here.

I realize not all of us have a sense of humor. Like I said...

At this point, I don't know what tabloid report to believe. Jillian and Ed stayed together for a year despite his Windy City frolics, which US Weekly took to the bank.

EVERY couple goes through this post-show.

[Maggenzm]

JBF, I understand you don't like him for not picking your fave. But, some tabloid are not to be believed period. Why don't we give them a chance. I think we all need to chill and let these 3 (Juan, Nikki and Clare) move on with their lives.
Des got a good article and great exhortation for all of us.

Pffft! I have no favorites. I thought it was so hilarious that we all forgot this tabloid tidbit during all of the Discussion here.

I realize not all of us have a sense of humor. Like I said...

At this point, I don't know what tabloid report to believe. Jillian and Ed stayed together for a year despite his Windy City frolics, which US Weekly took to the bank.

EVERY couple goes through this post-show.

I have a great sense of humor,   I am just a little sensitive now. The man has been broken, run over and over by a car and still, he gets no break, how much abuse can someone take? I know he is not perfect, but for Christ sake, cut him a little slack OK!

[JBF]

It's OK

[richmondrose]

Holy, moly ...  :shocked!: 

[pbmax]

weird conspiracy theorists here.

to me it was clear that in helicopter incident did occur.

that was the whole basis of their discussion the night of their final date.

those of you that are trying so hard to convince yourself otherwise.. i'm shocked.

juan pablo watched the show backstage. if he wanted to refute anything, he would have. even now he hasn't denied it.

  I'm surprised this is even being questioned. Clare alluded to it pretty specifically in their LCD evening and said it directly after the FRC.

I guess I wzs watching a different show cause what I heard her harping was did he know her enouvh, enouvh to propose. she talked about physical chemistry that they always had that so if that was implying f***ing, then they been f***ing every episode. And if he supposely said it again and it offended her the first time, why in the hell would she show up to the FRC looking for a ring. Something in milk ain't right.

[Maggenzm]

weird conspiracy theorists here.

to me it was clear that in helicopter incident did occur.

that was the whole basis of their discussion the night of their final date.

those of you that are trying so hard to convince yourself otherwise.. i'm shocked.

juan pablo watched the show backstage.  if he wanted to refute anything, he would have.  even now he hasn't denied it.

  I'm surprised this is even being questioned. Clare alluded to it pretty specifically in their LCD evening and said it directly after the FRC.

I guess I wzs watching a different show cause what I heard her harping was did he know her enouvh, enouvh to propose. she talked about physical chemistry that they always had that so if that was implying f***ing, then they been f***ing every episode. And if he supposely said it again and it offended her the first time, why in the hell would she show up to the FRC looking for a ring. Something in milk ain't right.

WORD!!!

[Aunties_Love]

Just wondering...when Juan Paul asked, "What did I say to Clare that I should regret?" He said he hadn't watched. Chris just told him he offended her by what he said in the helicopter. He didn't tell him exactly what he was supposed to have said. Is it because it isn't really what he said and he would refute it? Is that why Clare didn't "need" to talk to him? She didn't want him to be able to deny it?

OR she just had enough of his crap like she said. I can understand that!

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