Re: * No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 FINALE (LCD/MTP/FRC) Discussion- Thread #2

by chloep Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:16 am

ALSO, HOW THE HELL is Clare supposed to know that JP is ALSO going to play a song to Nikki. WE KNEW this as viewers, but it was impossible for her to know at the time.... She had every reason to be confident. (I don't agree with quite some of the things she said to him(I commented in her Contestant Thread about that) but she couldn't have saw it coming...

by Guest Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:27 am

docnash14 wrote:
grace8136 wrote:I think Sean and Cat will probably see it differently later, but I think they were upset for Chris in the moment. I also think Cat was talking about JPs lack of gratitude for what he got out of it. The thing is he was treated very differently than Sean, so you can't really compare the 2.

In my opinion, there were no winners tonight. I feel sorry for Nikki. That was sort of humiliating. She could do a lot better IMO.

And chloep, I agree with you on the whole brat thing.

I heard JP express his appreciation and gratitude for being on the show and finding Nikki.

True, but Sean and Cat express it in a way that helps the show. JP wasn't ending the show in the way they thought was appropriate.

by Maggenzm Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:46 am

chloep wrote:ALSO, HOW THE HELL is Clare supposed to know that JP is ALSO going to play a song to Nikki. WE KNEW this as viewers, but it was impossible for her to know at the time.... She had every reason to be confident. (I don't agree with quite some of the things she said to him(I commented in her Contestant Thread about that) but she couldn't have saw it coming...

No, she doesn't know, but that's when thinking comes in. She always acted as though she was the only one, not realistic at all. She need to grow up inside, too emotional for her age.

by Maggenzm Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:49 am

chloep wrote:^^ selective memory there Maggenzm... :)

AshLee claimed that Sean told her that she was the one ans that he had no feelings for the other 2 girls... THAT's why people got worked up, not because Sean told her she'd get along well with his sister....

It really doesn't matter what was said or not, they lead is falling for many people at the same time. You have to keep your eyes open and really listen with your heart and not just your mind. and that 's a tuff job they all say. They are in a moment ans say what they are thinking then. And you never win when you( a lady) are chasing a guy, it s a guaranty broken heart. that was Clare mistake. Seen that before.

by chloep Tue Mar 11, 2014 3:51 am

Maggenzm wrote:
chloep wrote:ALSO, HOW THE HELL is Clare supposed to know that JP is ALSO going to play a song to Nikki. WE KNEW this as viewers, but it was impossible for her to know at the time.... She had every reason to be confident. (I don't agree with quite some of the things she said to him(I commented in her Contestant Thread about that) but she couldn't have saw it coming...

No, she doesn't know, but that's when thinking comes in. She always acted as though she was the only one, not realistic at all. She need to grow up inside, too emotional for her age.

I agree.

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by quietpal Tue Mar 11, 2014 4:42 am

Maggenzm wrote:
chloep wrote:^^ selective memory there Maggenzm... :)

AshLee claimed that Sean told her that she was the one ans that he had no feelings for the other 2 girls... THAT's why people got worked up, not because Sean told her she'd get along well with his sister....

It really doesn't matter what was said or not, they lead is falling for many people at the same time. You have to keep your eyes open and really listen with your heart and not just your mind. and that 's a tuff job they all say. They are in a moment ans say what they are thinking then. And you never win when you( a lady) are chasing a guy, it s a guaranty broken heart. that was Clare mistake. Seen that before.

I agree with that line. I thought in many of the episodes she was doing the leading. Not to say that he wasn't doing it himself, but she was doing it a lot. I say this again, what was with the pouting lip thing she did and on their FD she asked in a come hither way if he liked her dress. I think he cares about Nikki just by the way he was treating her from the very beginning. I mean, he was picking her up on the first GD. I really wish them the best. If they can survive past all the scrutiny that's to come, they might have a chance. Only time will tell.

by snoosnoo Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:23 am

pretty icky end to the show.

seems like all 3 of them lost. 4 if you count chris. he kind of lost it on the after the rose.

then andi announced as the bachelorette.. pretty bad imo

by Relalou Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:35 am

snoosnoo wrote:pretty icky end to the show.

seems like all 3 of them lost. 4 if you count chris. he kind of lost it on the after the rose.

then andi announced as the bachelorette.. pretty bad imo

ITA! I watched both girls and cringed as they seemed to settle for so little in terms of care and concern from JP - I felt both compassion and annoyance for them. Then some major grudge bearing between JP and Chris/the production team created an awful atmosphere after a fairly awful final episode. We are all realistic enough (and have seen enough bach/ettes) to know that couples aren't always going to be matched via the show, but the aggression between CH and JP meant that JP wouldn't give an inch to CH and CH was determined to make him as uncomfortable in that stance as he could. Not good hosting and not good to watch IMO.

by Aunties_Love Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:46 am

What was it that JP was referring to about the women tell all and some of the production. The way he said it was almost like a stab towards the producers. Was that when he started posting the Nikki videos? Another stab at production??

by Guest Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:54 am

Aunties_Love wrote:What was it that JP was referring to about the women tell all and some of the production. The way he said it was almost like a stab towards the producers. Was that when he started posting the Nikki videos? Another stab at production??

i think at WTA he found out he didnt get the DWTS gig...so he and Nikki had to change their future plan

by Aunties_Love Tue Mar 11, 2014 5:59 am

murasaki1393 wrote:
Aunties_Love wrote:What was it that JP was referring to about the women tell all and some of the production. The way he said it was almost like a stab towards the producers. Was that when he started posting the Nikki videos? Another stab at production??

i think at WTA he found out he didnt get the DWTS gig...so he and Nikki had to change their future plan

Ok, thanks. It just sounded like a dig at producers the way he said it.

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