*No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 FINALE (LCD/MTP/FRC) Discussions

Hello all. I'm not on the fence about who I think is F1 as I'm sure most who have been reading know...  But as I said weeks ago, how on earth does Juan say good-bye to Clare or Nikki (just to be fair) and turn around and be all smiles to create a typical FRC even if he is sure! He can barely make it through a non FRC. I'm not expecting it to be a Chris/Dez type of FRC. If he's still nervous and being real (that's who he is) he may not propose even though he's very into whoever comes up last. How long has it been since FRC? If he truly cared for his F1, I hope he's had plenty of time away from the drama of TB, that he's smiling ATFR. I just hope Chris Harrison doesn't push and push so that he'll get him to say something to Clare that gets America going again. I DO NOT TRUSH TPTB!

mprssdbyu wrote:Hello all. I'm not on the fence about who I think is F1 as I'm sure most who have been reading know...  But as I said weeks ago, how on earth does Juan say good-bye to Clare or Nikki (just to be fair) and turn around and be all smiles to create a typical FRC even if he is sure! He can barely make it through a non FRC. I'm not expecting it to be a Chris/Dez type of FRC. If he's still nervous and being real (that's who he is) he may not propose even though he's very into whoever comes up last. How long has it been since FRC? If he truly cared for his F1, I hope he's had plenty of time away from the drama of TB, that he's smiling ATFR. I just hope Chris Harrison doesn't push and push so that he'll get him to say something to Clare that gets America going again. I DO NOT TRUSH TPTB!

i clearly get your point, mp. Its been said that on Sean`s season the time difference between Lindsay`s break up and Cat arrival was about 1.5 hrs (thx to umngirl). For a man who obviously doesnt have any poker face talent   , i really2 wonder whether he can pull that off.

so....still, to be as Fair As Possible, i think i would do Clare a favor. (i simply think this thread can morph into a F1 thread)

i just found out that they put too much `Nikki`s personality` on the deleted scenes :
- Clare thought about Nikki
- Nikki`s personalities
- (anything else?)

i for one, cant view it due to Country restriction.

another thing, if you paid close attn to episode 1, you can see that while Clare getting the first rose, Camera panned on Nikki..me think, is this part of editing to suggest us the rivalry between the 2 throughout the season?

my Q, are those deleted scenes aiming to mold our opinion about Nikki? If that is such a negative thing, why would they do it for her if she is the F1? . I know Chris got a couple, but in the best light possible (playing in the sand, talk with Zak). In Nikki`s case, isnt it strange?
( I know nothing about Cat`s deleted scene. hopefully someone can fill in.)

soo..id love to hear y`all thoughts about this. TIA!

Just re-watch Vietnam and Miami and listen to all of the lovely things everybody has to say about the most lovable nurse on the planet. All of the criticisms about The Princess (Andi in Korea, everybody in Vietnam) simply concern her being territorial about her man... a territory, according to the most lovable nurse on the planet, that "might not be hers".

All joking aside, murasaki1393, it is very thoughtful and considerate that you are Being As Fair As Possible. Watching you analyze this is like watching a golf game... maybe the ball will go into the Clare hole based on This Itty Bitty Clue or maybe it will go into the Nikki hole based on This Itty Bitty Clue.

Meanwhile, the quirky TV show I am watching has Andi and Nikki "barely making it" with Juan and... Juan and Clare "barely" keeping their clothes on. There are moments I feel like I am watching soft core porn, punctuated by Juan's discussions of guilt that Camilla may be watching. He needs to make up his mind if Little Juan can't make it up for him.

I just want you all to know how much I have enjoyed all your comments! JMO This show would not be worth watching without the analysis from you guys. MF would not have near the ratings with this show without all the interactive viewing. JBF and Mura, you guys win the Oscars! Thanks!

Well... fasten your seat belt. It will be a bumpy week. Everybody will have, as nd4reality puts it, their heels firmly stuck to the ground during this last week of agonizing tit-for-tat. I just have to reel murasaki1393 in from all of the comets and broken spaceship debris colliding all over the place at this time of season.

mprssdbyu wrote:Hello all. I'm not on the fence about who I think is F1 as I'm sure most who have been reading know...  But as I said weeks ago, how on earth does Juan say good-bye to Clare or Nikki (just to be fair) and turn around and be all smiles to create a typical FRC even if he is sure! He can barely make it through a non FRC. I'm not expecting it to be a Chris/Dez type of FRC. If he's still nervous and being real (that's who he is) he may not propose even though he's very into whoever comes up last. How long has it been since FRC? If he truly cared for his F1, I hope he's had plenty of time away from the drama of TB, that he's smiling ATFR. I just hope Chris Harrison doesn't push and push so that he'll get him to say something to Clare that gets America going again. I DO NOT TRUSH TPTB!

I agree with your entire post except for the first line - I myself am not sure.

But particularly agree with the last one. JP has not watched any of the previous seasons and will not know what being in the hottest seat in the house will mean. Hopefully having been roasted on the WTA will tell him how to best prepare to talk to the F2 girl.

JBF wrote:Well... fasten your seat belt. It will be a bumpy week. Everybody will have, as nd4reality puts it, their heels firmly stuck to the ground during this last week of agonizing tit-for-tat. I just have to reel murasaki1393 in from all of the comets and broken spaceship debris colliding all over the place at this time of season.

At this point IDK who Juan Pablo picks, I just want him to be happy. I think the Andi trashing and shredding might have affected him more than what we see. JMO.
Wouldn't that be something if it turns out that he picks someone other than Nikki or Claire? Would that be a first? It seams MF likes to prove everyone wrong.

Anyone know if there is an ATFR scheduled and if so when ?

nd4reality wrote:Anyone know if there is an ATFR scheduled and if so when ?

Yes. Live on March 10th right after the Finale.

tks.

Were the previous seasons also similarly scheduled ? tia.

nd4reality wrote:tks.

Were the previous seasons also similarly scheduled ? tia.

They've done Live ATFR the last 3 seasons, dating back to Emily I believe. Someone please correct me if that's wrong. Generally it's always shown right after the finale. I know awhile ago it was the following day, but lately it's always been the same night as the finale and ten the finale couple do the media tour the following day in NYC.