*No Spoilers* The Bachelor Episode 9 FD Discussions

pbmax wrote:

4health wrote:

pbmax wrote:Well there's a big difference in his response to the ILY's. His response to Clare can't touch the one to Nikki's. He drew closer to Nikki while with Clare he just stood still. That scene was very telling in my opinion. It just shows all over Juan Pablo face how crazy he is about Nikki.

You are probably right, because it is what you see….none of us can say for sure until the 10th.  Correct?  I can read his reaction for both of them in different ways….I just see an ease with Clare and JP that Nikki doesn't have…I don't know JP and how he acts towards women he truly loves….if we had an opportunity to watch him fall in love with Des or how he acts with women he likes in real life then we can make a matter of fact statement but we don't.  We see what we see and feel what we feel.  I just view it differently. So which is it for JP - so pbmax if it is what you observe and it's right great, but then I think JP will have a lot to answer for if Nikki watches his time with Clare (hot tub, touchy feeling, can't keep his hands off of her, face touching etc.) But, I can say the same thing visa versa with Clare watching Nikki's times with JP because he is so different with her.  But which is the real JP.  We don't know do we?

I can see a ease with Nikki. He kisses, touches Nikki too. What I see differently with them is he give Clare mostly pecking kisses...with Nikki they are more passionate kisses. What I haven't seen with Clare is him whispering in her ears, sure he speaks to her in a low tone but not in the ear. If Clare is the one he's falling for then why the need to whisper to her. Treat her like he does the rest of them.

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:Andi's season HAS NOT yet started. M&G is scheduled for the 13th.  

Do we know for sure it is Andi as the next Ette?? or is that just rumours??

Yep. She already filmed parts of her intro in LA.

Are we going on what RS said?

Not only.   

I would never take anything that man says to the bank. Utterly unreliable....

Aunties_Love wrote:

pbmax wrote:

4health wrote:

pbmax wrote:Well there's a big difference in his response to the ILY's. His response to Clare can't touch the one to Nikki's. He drew closer to Nikki while with Clare he just stood still. That scene was very telling in my opinion. It just shows all over Juan Pablo face how crazy he is about Nikki.

You are probably right, because it is what you see….none of us can say for sure until the 10th.  Correct?  I can read his reaction for both of them in different ways….I just see an ease with Clare and JP that Nikki doesn't have…I don't know JP and how he acts towards women he truly loves….if we had an opportunity to watch him fall in love with Des or how he acts with women he likes in real life then we can make a matter of fact statement but we don't.  We see what we see and feel what we feel.  I just view it differently. So which is it for JP - so pbmax if it is what you observe and it's right great, but then I think JP will have a lot to answer for if Nikki watches his time with Clare (hot tub, touchy feeling, can't keep his hands off of her, face touching etc.) But, I can say the same thing visa versa with Clare watching Nikki's times with JP because he is so different with her.  But which is the real JP.  We don't know do we?

I can see a ease with Nikki. He kisses, touches Nikki too. What I see differently with them is he give Clare mostly pecking kisses...with Nikki they are more passionate kisses. What I haven't seen with Clare is him whispering in her ears, sure he speaks to her in a low tone but not in the ear. If Clare is the one he's falling for then why the need to whisper to her. Treat her like he does the rest of them.

Yes, we all see things differently for sure. I do see him whispering in Clare's ear, nuzzling her neck, hands on which they both seem to really love.

What's your thoughts on the body language in those sc's for the finale with Nikki/JP?

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:Andi's season HAS NOT yet started. M&G is scheduled for the 13th.  

Do we know for sure it is Andi as the next Ette?? or is that just rumours??

Yep. She already filmed parts of her intro in LA.

Are we going on what RS said?

Not only.   

I would never take anything that man says to the bank. Utterly unreliable....

Thanks for answering!!  Yea, didn't know if there was something reliable compared to RS.  LOL.

rosesrREd wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:Andi's season HAS NOT yet started. M&G is scheduled for the 13th.  

Do we know for sure it is Andi as the next Ette?? or is that just rumours??

Yep. She already filmed parts of her intro in LA.

Are we going on what RS said?

Not only.   

I would never take anything that man says to the bank. Utterly unreliable....

Thanks for answering!!  Yea, didn't know if there was something reliable compared to RS.  LOL.

I wonder if they can reconsider her?  It may be too late at this point.  I think they may have misjudged the public's reaction to her.

pbmax wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

pbmax wrote:

4health wrote:

pbmax wrote:Well there's a big difference in his response to the ILY's. His response to Clare can't touch the one to Nikki's. He drew closer to Nikki while with Clare he just stood still. That scene was very telling in my opinion. It just shows all over Juan Pablo face how crazy he is about Nikki.

You are probably right, because it is what you see….none of us can say for sure until the 10th.  Correct?  I can read his reaction for both of them in different ways….I just see an ease with Clare and JP that Nikki doesn't have…I don't know JP and how he acts towards women he truly loves….if we had an opportunity to watch him fall in love with Des or how he acts with women he likes in real life then we can make a matter of fact statement but we don't.  We see what we see and feel what we feel.  I just view it differently. So which is it for JP - so pbmax if it is what you observe and it's right great, but then I think JP will have a lot to answer for if Nikki watches his time with Clare (hot tub, touchy feeling, can't keep his hands off of her, face touching etc.) But, I can say the same thing visa versa with Clare watching Nikki's times with JP because he is so different with her.  But which is the real JP.  We don't know do we?

I can see a ease with Nikki. He kisses, touches Nikki too. What I see differently with them is he give Clare mostly pecking kisses...with Nikki they are more passionate kisses. What I haven't seen with Clare is him whispering in her ears, sure he speaks to her in a low tone but not in the ear. If Clare is the one he's falling for then why the need to whisper to her. Treat her like he does the rest of them.

Yes, we all see things differently for sure.  I do see him whispering in Clare's ear, nuzzling her neck, hands on which they both seem to really love.

What's your thoughts on the body language in those sc's for the finale with Nikki/JP?

I have checked he has not whispered in Clare's ears. He has kissed her on the cheek. I haven't seen sc but from the preview he seem to still be very much into Nikki. It will be very clear on the MTP and LCD who is the F1, it's always is.

Aunties_Love wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:Andi's season HAS NOT yet started. M&G is scheduled for the 13th.  

Do we know for sure it is Andi as the next Ette?? or is that just rumours??

Yep. She already filmed parts of her intro in LA.

Are we going on what RS said?

Not only.   

I would never take anything that man says to the bank. Utterly unreliable....

Thanks for answering!!  Yea, didn't know if there was something reliable compared to RS.  LOL.

I wonder if they can reconsider her?  It may be too late at this point.  I think they may have misjudged the public's reaction to her.

Yea, I wonder that too.  The general public`s opinion of her really is bad on twitter and articles.  Most feel that she`s equally, if not more so, at fault for what happened and her attitude towards the process and Juan.  Let`s face it, IF she`s doing it, can`t see her family really supporting it.

Sprite wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:Andi's season HAS NOT yet started. M&G is scheduled for the 13th.  

Do we know for sure it is Andi as the next Ette?? or is that just rumours??

Yep. She already filmed parts of her intro in LA.

Are we going on what RS said?

Not only.   

I would never take anything that man says to the bank. Utterly unreliable....

Thanks for answering!!  Yea, didn't know if there was something reliable compared to RS.  LOL.

I wonder if they can reconsider her?  It may be too late at this point.  I think they may have misjudged the public's reaction to her.

Yea, I wonder that too.  The general public`s opinion of her really is bad on twitter and articles.  Most feel that she`s equally, if not more so, at fault for what happened and her attitude towards the process and Juan.  Let`s face it, IF she`s doing it, can`t see her family really supporting it.

Producers don't care if we love her or not. Controversy/drama sells. They know we will still be watching anyway. Those that support her to see her so called "romance" and those that don't to see her eat her words and be humiliated in her own right.   

Sprite wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

rosesrREd wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

chloep wrote:Andi's season HAS NOT yet started. M&G is scheduled for the 13th.  

Do we know for sure it is Andi as the next Ette?? or is that just rumours??

Yep. She already filmed parts of her intro in LA.

Are we going on what RS said?

Not only.   

I would never take anything that man says to the bank. Utterly unreliable....

Thanks for answering!!  Yea, didn't know if there was something reliable compared to RS.  LOL.

I wonder if they can reconsider her?  It may be too late at this point.  I think they may have misjudged the public's reaction to her.

Yea, I wonder that too.  The general public`s opinion of her really is bad on twitter and articles.  Most feel that she`s equally, if not more so, at fault for what happened and her attitude towards the process and Juan.  Let`s face it, IF she`s doing it, can`t see her family really supporting it.

Producers don't care if we love h
er or not. Controversy/drama sells. They know we will still be watching anyway. Those that support her to see her so called "romance" and those that don't to see her eat her words and be humiliated in her own right.   

4health wrote:

pbmax wrote:Well there's a big difference in his response to the ILY's. His response to Clare can't touch the one to Nikki's. He drew closer to Nikki while with Clare he just stood still. That scene was very telling in my opinion. It just shows all over Juan Pablo face how crazy he is about Nikki.

You are probably right, because it is what you see….none of us can say for sure until the 10th.  Correct?  I can read his reaction for both of them in different ways….I just see an ease with Clare and JP that Nikki doesn't have…I don't know JP and how he acts towards women he truly loves….if we had an opportunity to watch him fall in love with Des or how he acts with women he likes in real life then we can make a matter of fact statement but we don't.  We see what we see and feel what we feel.  I just view it differently. So which is it for JP - so pbmax if it is what you observe and it's right great, but then I think JP will have a lot to answer for if Nikki watches his time with Clare (hot tub, touchy feeling, can't keep his hands off of her, face touching etc.) But, I can say the same thing visa versa with Clare watching Nikki's times with JP because he is so different with her.  But which is the real JP.  We don't know do we?

2observe wrote:

4health wrote:

pbmax wrote:Well there's a big difference in his response to the ILY's. His response to Clare can't touch the one to Nikki's. He drew closer to Nikki while with Clare he just stood still. That scene was very telling in my opinion. It just shows all over Juan Pablo face how crazy he is about Nikki.

You are probably right, because it is what you see….none of us can say for sure until the 10th.  Correct?  I can read his reaction for both of them in different ways….I just see an ease with Clare and JP that Nikki doesn't have…I don't know JP and how he acts towards women he truly loves….if we had an opportunity to watch him fall in love with Des or how he acts with women he likes in real life then we can make a matter of fact statement but we don't.  We see what we see and feel what we feel.  I just view it differently. So which is it for JP - so pbmax if it is what you observe and it's right great, but then I think JP will have a lot to answer for if Nikki watches his time with Clare (hot tub, touchy feeling, can't keep his hands off of her, face touching etc.) But, I can say the same thing visa versa with Clare watching Nikki's times with JP because he is so different with her.  But which is the real JP.  We don't know do we?

I just don't think that  Clare will handle to well the fact that Nikki met Juan family before she did if she is F1 .  IMO, It won't matter to her that he doesn't see it as a big deal.