*No Spoilers* The Bachelor Episode 9 FD Discussions

lexforlife wrote:Spoiled and unspoiled viewers all think Nikki won. I'm not getting this Clare not handling this and that and will explode perspective people have of her.Her behavior post show has been impressive, No digs on anyone including Nikki. She gained brownie points the way she handled herself on social media last week. Can't say the same for Nikki.

JBF wrote:Since we are on the topic, I'll bring this over here...

notarose wrote:

JBF wrote:You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

About quiet:  quote from JP bach blo "She decided to spend the night with me, but before that, she dropped the “I love you.” I wasn't really expecting that, and you could see it by my reaction. As my feelings for her are not there yet, I wanted to keep quiet rather than saying something that she may have taken the wrong way."
But he spoke in whisper which is saying something.

I'll have to re-watch that episode later to see the whispering.

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That paragraph bothers me. I guess it can go either way...

Favorable for her: his feelings may not be there with anybody yet... but may be later with HER.

Unfavorable for her: he may have fallen faster for somebody else. Usually the Bachelor/ette has fallen for one... or TWO... by this stage (if they do pick somebody) and the last week brings more clarity as to which contestant is the better choice.

His wording of each:

Clare: "After talking, she agreed to spend the night together and I was glad she did."

Andi: "After the waterfall, we went to the hotel and had dinner and decided that we were going to spend the night together." Also... "I liked my night with Andi even though she has a different opinion. I don't agree with some of the things that she said but I respect that. I don’t want to get into details – there’s a reason why cameras are not there – but to me it was exactly as my other eight weeks with Andi had been. We were talking back and forth, laughing for hours. If she didn't feel that way, she could have left at any time, but she didn’t. Listening to her talk about some of the things that she thought I said was very disappointing, but once again I respect other people's opinions and way of reacting to situations."

That line of her about "can't wait to get out of the fantasy suite" made little sense unless these contestants are genuinely locked in the room with patrolled guards preventing them to leave... like poor Victoria failing to get past Elan Gale.

Nikki: "She decided to spend the night with me..." Later though... "I was very pleased with my night with Nikki. I really got to know her really well."

lexforlife wrote:Spoiled and unspoiled viewers all think Nikki won. I'm not getting this Clare not handling this and that and will explode perspective people have of her.Her behavior post show has been impressive, No digs on anyone including Nikki. She gained brownie points the way she handled herself on social media last week. Can't say the same for Nikki.

Rolly wrote:

JBF wrote:Since we are on the topic, I'll bring this over here...

notarose wrote:

JBF wrote:You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

About quiet:  quote from JP bach blo "She decided to spend the night with me, but before that, she dropped the “I love you.” I wasn't really expecting that, and you could see it by my reaction. As my feelings for her are not there yet, I wanted to keep quiet rather than saying something that she may have taken the wrong way."
But he spoke in whisper which is saying something.

I'll have to re-watch that episode later to see the whispering.

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That paragraph bothers me. I guess it can go either way...

Favorable for her: his feelings may not be there with anybody yet... but may be later with HER.

Unfavorable for her: he may have fallen faster for somebody else. Usually the Bachelor/ette has fallen for one... or TWO... by this stage (if they do pick somebody) and the last week brings more clarity as to which contestant is the better choice.

His wording of each:

Clare: "After talking, she agreed to spend the night together and I was glad she did."

Andi: "After the waterfall, we went to the hotel and had dinner and decided that we were going to spend the night together." Also... "I liked my night with Andi even though she has a different opinion. I don't agree with some of the things that she said but I respect that. I don’t want to get into details – there’s a reason why cameras are not there – but to me it was exactly as my other eight weeks with Andi had been. We were talking back and forth, laughing for hours. If she didn't feel that way, she could have left at any time, but she didn’t. Listening to her talk about some of the things that she thought I said was very disappointing, but once again I respect other people's opinions and way of reacting to situations."

That line of her about "can't wait to get out of the fantasy suite" made little sense unless these contestants are genuinely locked in the room with patrolled guards preventing them to leave... like poor Victoria failing to get past Elan Gale.

Nikki: "She decided to spend the night with me..." Later though... "I was very pleased with my night with Nikki. I really got to know her really well."

Andi is so unbelievable because she says she "can't wait to get out of the fantasy suite" and so when she leaves him in the morning she says NOTHING about how she was feeling??? Doesn't sound like a strong assertive woman to me. So the first time she tells him there is anything wrong is when she already has her bags packed and blames him for everything. How could he have thought it went so well??? Because Andi didn't give him any indication that something was wrong....she should have said something!!!! This was a set up. She knew she was not F1 and had to find a way out of there. That was the only way for her to be the 'ette. I'd bet money on it.  :Nod: 

Aunties_Love wrote:

lexforlife wrote:Spoiled and unspoiled viewers all think Nikki won. I'm not getting this Clare not handling this and that and will explode perspective people have of her.Her behavior post show has been impressive, No digs on anyone including Nikki. She gained brownie points the way she handled herself on social media last week. Can't say the same for Nikki.

Very true.  Clare has been classy on social media.  As far as the other hints to me that Nikki isn't the F1 though is that she seems to be completely in the dark with regards to Vietnam.  Don't you think that he would of told her already if she is his intended F1?

Mommyof1 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

lexforlife wrote:Spoiled and unspoiled viewers all think Nikki won. I'm not getting this Clare not handling this and that and will explode perspective people have of her.Her behavior post show has been impressive, No digs on anyone including Nikki. She gained brownie points the way she handled herself on social media last week. Can't say the same for Nikki.

Very true.  Clare has been classy on social media.  As far as the other hints to me that Nikki isn't the F1 though is that she seems to be completely in the dark with regards to Vietnam.  Don't you think that he would of told her already if she is his intended F1?

And what exactly happened in the ocean?  They made out?  I think Nikki knows the name of the game and that he isn't only kissing her.  

Idlemess wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

lexforlife wrote:Spoiled and unspoiled viewers all think Nikki won. I'm not getting this Clare not handling this and that and will explode perspective people have of her.Her behavior post show has been impressive, No digs on anyone including Nikki. She gained brownie points the way she handled herself on social media last week. Can't say the same for Nikki.

Very true.  Clare has been classy on social media.  As far as the other hints to me that Nikki isn't the F1 though is that she seems to be completely in the dark with regards to Vietnam.  Don't you think that he would of told her already if she is his intended F1?

And what exactly happened in the ocean?  They made out?  I think Nikki knows the name of the game and that he isn't only kissing her.  

Nikki if it is by choice has tweeted very little. She rarely comment on the show and has responded about her friendship with Sharleen, Andi, Kat, Kelly and a few more. She has no love for Clare and maybe to her for obvious reasons including said dipped in the ocean plus other stuff

Aunties_Love wrote:

Rolly wrote:

JBF wrote:Since we are on the topic, I'll bring this over here...

notarose wrote:

JBF wrote:You know... I thought there was something ODD about his promo. Yeah... Juan is practically silent!

About quiet:  quote from JP bach blo "She decided to spend the night with me, but before that, she dropped the “I love you.” I wasn't really expecting that, and you could see it by my reaction. As my feelings for her are not there yet, I wanted to keep quiet rather than saying something that she may have taken the wrong way."
But he spoke in whisper which is saying something.

I'll have to re-watch that episode later to see the whispering.

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That paragraph bothers me. I guess it can go either way...

Favorable for her: his feelings may not be there with anybody yet... but may be later with HER.

Unfavorable for her: he may have fallen faster for somebody else. Usually the Bachelor/ette has fallen for one... or TWO... by this stage (if they do pick somebody) and the last week brings more clarity as to which contestant is the better choice.

His wording of each:

Clare: "After talking, she agreed to spend the night together and I was glad she did."

Andi: "After the waterfall, we went to the hotel and had dinner and decided that we were going to spend the night together." Also... "I liked my night with Andi even though she has a different opinion. I don't agree with some of the things that she said but I respect that. I don’t want to get into details – there’s a reason why cameras are not there – but to me it was exactly as my other eight weeks with Andi had been. We were talking back and forth, laughing for hours. If she didn't feel that way, she could have left at any time, but she didn’t. Listening to her talk about some of the things that she thought I said was very disappointing, but once again I respect other people's opinions and way of reacting to situations."

That line of her about "can't wait to get out of the fantasy suite" made little sense unless these contestants are genuinely locked in the room with patrolled guards preventing them to leave... like poor Victoria failing to get past Elan Gale.

Nikki: "She decided to spend the night with me..." Later though... "I was very pleased with my night with Nikki. I really got to know her really well."

Andi is so unbelievable because she says she "can't wait to get out of the fantasy suite" and so when she leaves him in the morning she says NOTHING about how she was feeling??? Doesn't sound like a strong assertive woman to me. So the first time she tells him there is anything wrong is when she already has her bags packed and blames him for everything. How could he have thought it went so well??? Because Andi didn't give him any indication that something was wrong....she should have said something!!!! This was a set up. She knew she was not F1 and had to find a way out of there. That was the only way for her to be the 'ette. I'd bet money on it.  :Nod: 

DISCLAIMER: What I am saying in the following is all based on IF, IF, Nikki is F1.
Speaking of Andi and to involve Nikki and their group here, how could they still be friends knowing full well that Nikki is with JP and knowing full well how they feel about JP. Something is just off with that scenario and one of many clues I am thinking points against Nikki being F1.

Mommyof1 wrote:

Aunties_Love wrote:

lexforlife wrote:Spoiled and unspoiled viewers all think Nikki won. I'm not getting this Clare not handling this and that and will explode perspective people have of her.Her behavior post show has been impressive, No digs on anyone including Nikki. She gained brownie points the way she handled herself on social media last week. Can't say the same for Nikki.

Very true.  Clare has been classy on social media.  As far as the other hints to me that Nikki isn't the F1 though is that she seems to be completely in the dark with regards to Vietnam.  Don't you think that he would of told her already if she is his intended F1?

And what exactly happened in the ocean? They made out? I think Nikki knows the name of the game and that he isn't only kissing her.