Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #2

[Guest]

They often have ITMs for the contestants which are not in the same place and time (sometimes done after the date) as the lead.
Besides this date had 2 parts in 2 different locations. Contestants always film ITMs after the date is over. I know Ali had done so after her 1o1 on jakes season - different from where Jake did ITMs. Similarly other seasons.
So this PI could have been shot in a room at the location the girls stayed at and not where the date took place.

I don't see any proof that this particular PI is a time travel PI and done after the season = no evidence.

All I was asking for is actual proof that the ITMs that you guys are claiming as post-filming. For example - Emily had a bunch where her hair was completely different as during filming. Same with Ashley H. Tans etc.

Thanks 4 the input nd and litta
Regarding tan,I agree this season seem harder for sleuthers. It seems JuClare hasn't spend much time in the sun after finale. My guess is they were super busy feeding each other in honeymoon suiteto get Clare a real knock up

Maybe I'm the minority here who also pays attention on what was being said on those screen-ish PI.to me, a lot of those are so suspicious, to say the least. It seems purposely taken to fill the gaps of the Ice Queen and Latino King wuv story

[nd4reality]

The couples aren't filmed when they stay on or like Emily and jef do side trip after the finale.  Camera crew are released and fly home.  Only a few handlers remain behind and maybe some big wigs.  

Post finale LA taping is possibility but far from standard.  

I'm open minded but not persuaded.

They lay out at the mansion for weeks at the beginning and tan also.  Tans are over rated as a clue.  

Thanks jlc.

I figured the f2 or f3 would be pretty unwilling to re-hash their "journey" happily to a camera after they have been dumped (if).

[Litta123]

The couples aren't filmed when they stay on or like Emily and jef do side trip after the finale.  Camera crew are released and fly home.  Only a few handlers remain behind and maybe some big wigs.  

Post finale LA taping is possibility but far from standard.  

I'm open minded but not persuaded.

They lay out at the mansion for weeks at the beginning and tan also.  Tans are over rated as a clue.  

Thanks jlc.

I figured the f2 or f3 would be pretty unwilling to re-hash their "journey" happily to a camera after they have been dumped (if).

Haha! That might be true, but if you listen to the majority of what Nikki and Andi say in those PIs with the infamous screen -- it's A LOT of Clare bashing...so maybe they enjoyed it.    The essence of their statements really weren't about their own journey. Renee, OTOH, was the rehasher...but not necessarily of her time with Juan.

[JBF]

My only problem with those PI sessions discussed is her hair. It matches TOO perfectly with Juan scenes. Usually you see more variation.

Then again, earlier I was speculating that the whole evening portion of the date was shot in California. Heck, her entire NZ date could easily have been shot in the US. Did you see any landmarks?

[Guest]

My only problem with those PI sessions discussed is her hair. It matches TOO perfectly with Juan scenes. Usually you see more variation.

Then again, earlier I was speculating that the whole evening portion of the date was shot in California. Heck, her entire NZ date could easily have been shot in the US. Did you see any landmarks?

I noticed that too. I compared the 2 and they are exactly the same. No time travel here.

[Guest]

My only problem with those PI sessions discussed is her hair. It matches TOO perfectly with Juan scenes. Usually you see more variation.

Then again, earlier I was speculating that the whole evening portion of the date was shot in California. Heck, her entire NZ date could easily have been shot in the US. Did you see any landmarks?

i get your point, JBF. i still see possibility that the  PI session taken at NZ. BUT it doesnt matter.

for me personally, the one with Clare in red with the BRACELET is a solid evidence. let me just say i have completed my own puzzle`s piece. July`S finding on the bracelet makes me want to put it on a frame and hang it on the wall.

If im not mistaken i have seen one of JP`s insta of the landmark of what supposed-to-be the day portion of JuClare`s NZ date (involving a `sky` activity..i cant recall). as you  probably know, due to bad weather they canceled the day portion and instead doing picnic on the supposed-to-be their night portion site. For the night portion, they replaced it with a cozy date on Juan`s place. In addition, the awesome sleuthers, Litta and others have sleuthed the place, Hoka Lodge, in NZ. Thought we have to appreciate that.  :Smiley:

ETA. here it is

Juan Pablo Galavis ‏@JuanPaGalavis  Feb 11
The wind SAVED me and Clare from the Flying Fox DATE... #TooDangerous (PHOTO & VIDEO) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  pic.twitter.com/5DgWKKYPhg

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[Guest]

The couples aren't filmed when they stay on or like Emily and jef do side trip after the finale.  Camera crew are released and fly home.  Only a few handlers remain behind and maybe some big wigs.  

Post finale LA taping is possibility but far from standard.  

I'm open minded but not persuaded.

They lay out at the mansion for weeks at the beginning and tan also.  Tans are over rated as a clue.  

Thanks jlc.

I figured the f2 or f3 would be pretty unwilling to re-hash their "journey" happily to a camera after they have been dumped (if).

Haha! That might be true, but if you listen to the majority of what Nikki and Andi say in those PIs with the infamous screen -- it's A LOT of Clare bashing...so maybe they enjoyed it.    The essence of their statements really weren't about their own journey. Renee, OTOH, was the rehasher...but not necessarily of her time with Juan.

yeah..one that intrigued me so much is Andi`s :
commenting on the `gravity`of JuClare (paraphrasing) : i dont like to say that..but its the truth!! (with her pissed face..LOL)..as if she already knew the final outcome..LOL...  

[Litta123]

My only problem with those PI sessions discussed is her hair. It matches TOO perfectly with Juan scenes. Usually you see more variation.

Then again, earlier I was speculating that the whole evening portion of the date was shot in California. Heck, her entire NZ date could easily have been shot in the US. Did you see any landmarks?

From the Hilton sight...

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Same as Juan's room...

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[Guest]

My only problem with those PI sessions discussed is her hair. It matches TOO perfectly with Juan scenes. Usually you see more variation.

Then again, earlier I was speculating that the whole evening portion of the date was shot in California. Heck, her entire NZ date could easily have been shot in the US. Did you see any landmarks?

i get your point, JBF. i still see possibility that the  PI session taken at NZ. BUT it doesnt matter.

for me personally, the one with Clare in red with the BRACELET is a solid evidence. let me just say i have completed my own puzzle`s piece. July`S finding on the bracelet makes me want to put it on a frame and hang it on the wall.

If im not mistaken i have seen one of JP`s insta of the landmark of what supposed-to-be the day portion of JuClare`s NZ date (involving a `sky` activity..i cant recall). as you  probably know, due to bad weather they canceled the day portion and instead doing picnic on the supposed-to-be their night portion site. For the night portion, they replaced it with a cozy date on Juan`s place. In addition, the awesome sleuthers, Litta and others have sleuthed the place, Hoka Lodge, in NZ. Thought we have to appreciate that.  :Smiley:

ETA. here it is

Juan Pablo Galavis ‏@JuanPaGalavis  Feb 11
The wind SAVED me and Clare from the Flying Fox DATE... #TooDangerous (PHOTO & VIDEO) [You must be registered and logged in to see this link.]  pic.twitter.com/5DgWKKYPhg

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it's evidence on if she wears it after the FRC.
Has it been proven that the SC with her wearing it has been shot AFTER the FRC ?

[Aunties_Love]

My only problem with those PI sessions discussed is her hair. It matches TOO perfectly with Juan scenes. Usually you see more variation.

Then again, earlier I was speculating that the whole evening portion of the date was shot in California. Heck, her entire NZ date could easily have been shot in the US. Did you see any landmarks?

From the Hilton sight...

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Same as Juan's room...

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But there is nothing in that room where the ITM had taken place that I can see. Could the ITM be from another time/place??

[Litta123]

^^^Auntie, go back two pages to page 28. The third post from the bottom has all my reasoning in it. I'd quote myself, but I think people are tired of hearing me make my case.  

[Aunties_Love]

^^^Auntie, go back two pages to page 28. The third post from the bottom has all my reasoning in it. I'd quote myself, but I think people are tired of hearing me make my case.  

OK, will do. Thanks so much!

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