Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #2

[Mirzam]

Thanks, Mirzam. The reason for my question is that Renee is considerably tan in her PI shots compared to how she appears in the released HTD caps from ABC. I know there are varying opinions on the reliability for tans, etc. so I'm not going to argue it. It is, however, a reason why I tend to think those PIs were made post filming in LA. I respect the fact that you hold a different position...so as far as I'm concerned we don't need to debate it.

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Aunties_love, I saw your question upthread. Yes, that is my working theory...that these PIs were filmed in LA post finale. I respect that there are those who disagree...I'm simply offering up my thoughts. So, yes, if those are taken in LA post filming, I take it as a sign that Clare would be F1. I can't prove it so I don't consider it something I want to debate, but merely want to share with the board to consider it as an option.

Litta, I understand your reasoning, but I don't think it is a coincidence that the F4 all have PIs with that same background. I just can't see TPTB flying all four girls in to LA post wrap for filler PIs, but do see them doing this in Miami, before the F4 RC, either before or after their HTDs.

[nd4reality]

I wonder if there would be some fun screen caps to get from this sneak peak?

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Thanks for the heads up. It helped me connect the dots. I think these three caps are all related. My theory is Andi calls Juan aside before the F3 RC (same yellow shirt). She chooses to leave before the roses are given out...hence Nikki's reaction due to her close friendship with Andi. Perhaps, I'm wrong, but that's what is making sense to me.

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Good sleuthing.

So that scene of Andi walking along the pathway in the black tank top seems to be irrelevant to the "drama" of her exit. Or are there other SCs linking that scene to something else in the new preview ?

[iamreal2u]

Renee at HT RC.

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[Litta123]

Gotcha, Mirzam!   

Thanks...

[nd4reality]

Thanks, Mirzam. The reason for my question is that Renee is considerably tan in her PI shots compared to how she appears in the released HTD caps from ABC. I know there are varying opinions on the reliability for tans, etc. so I'm not going to argue it. It is, however, a reason why I tend to think those PIs were made post filming in LA. I respect the fact that you hold a different position...so as far as I'm concerned we don't need to debate it.

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Aunties_love, I saw your question upthread. Yes, that is my working theory...that these PIs were filmed in LA post finale. I respect that there are those who disagree...I'm simply offering up my thoughts. So, yes, if those are taken in LA post filming, I take it as a sign that Clare would be F1. I can't prove it so I don't consider it something I want to debate, but merely want to share with the board to consider it as an option.

Litta, I understand your reasoning, but I don't think it is a coincidence that the F4 all have PIs with that same background. I just can't see TPTB flying all four girls in to LA post wrap for filler PIs, but do see them doing this in Miami, before the F4 RC, either before or after their HTDs.

The bolded is my thinking. After their HTDs and before the RC. I think Renee (and the other girls) looks normal there and she would not be if she was eliminated.

[Aunties_Love]

Thanks, Mirzam. The reason for my question is that Renee is considerably tan in her PI shots compared to how she appears in the released HTD caps from ABC. I know there are varying opinions on the reliability for tans, etc. so I'm not going to argue it. It is, however, a reason why I tend to think those PIs were made post filming in LA. I respect the fact that you hold a different position...so as far as I'm concerned we don't need to debate it.

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Aunties_love, I saw your question upthread. Yes, that is my working theory...that these PIs were filmed in LA post finale. I respect that there are those who disagree...I'm simply offering up my thoughts. So, yes, if those are taken in LA post filming, I take it as a sign that Clare would be F1. I can't prove it so I don't consider it something I want to debate, but merely want to share with the board to consider it as an option.

Litta, I understand your reasoning, but I don't think it is a coincidence that the F4 all have PIs with that same background. I just can't see TPTB flying all four girls in to LA post wrap for filler PIs, but do see them doing this in Miami, before the F4 RC, either before or after their HTDs.

If that is the case, how do you rational the difference in how tanned Renee is in the ITM compared to her tan in Miami for her HTD? Also with how tanned Clare is as well. To me, all of that says that the ITM's were done at a later date in LA.

[Mirzam]

The bolded is my thinking. After their HTDs and before the RC. I think Renee (and the other girls) looks normal there and she would not be if she was eliminated.

Astute point nd.   

[Litta123]

The bolded is my thinking. After their HTDs and before the RC. I think Renee (and the other girls) looks normal there and she would not be if she was eliminated.

Astute point nd.   

Since Renee's HTD was the last one filmed, are you saying all her PIs with this background would have been made on the day of the F4 RC? Or do they schedule a day in between HTDs and the F4 RC? In other words, would Renee have enough time to do all her fillers in that time period? Just wondering...not debating.   You could be right. I'm thinking the schedule seems tight...and what a long day for Renee...unfortunately, followed up by a crushing disappointment with no rose. I'm unfamiliar with the typical filming schedule so perhaps my perspective is way off.

[JBF]

Litta123, is it possible to screencap Andi's PI here? She is "supposedly" talking about Victoria, but not mentioning her by name... making me think she is discussing somebody other than Victoria.

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Here you go JBF...who do you propose Andi is taking about? Btw, there are several PIs being taken from this spot in all sorts of clothes. Do you think all of them are related to St. Lucia events...or could they be time travel PIs to fill out the story?

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OK... first of all. SHE MAY JUST BE TALKING ABOUT VICTORIA FOR "FILLER" MATERIAL.

However... when NO NAMES are mentioned, I DO SOMETIMES get suspicious that they relate to a current event. Note how her "disaster all over it" line got recycled from episode #2 to our upcoming promos.

Basically Andi and Kelly jokingly called Clare "crazy" to Nikki and she, of course, had MUCH to add. Andi said Clare was "tick tock" to Sharleen, but Sharleen didn't exactly buy it... just commented that, since Clare had the first date, there was an underlying possessiveness. We generally assumed she was talking about Clare, but it could also be jealousy OF Clare as well. Everybody on the Vietnam group date, apart from MIA Nikki and Renee, had something to say about JUAN hovering around Clare at all times... and she wasn't even doing anything to get his attention.

Aside from that, Nikki hasn't exactly been called Miss Sunshine all season long. Just take a trip down Memory Lane to Korea.

At this point, I am thinking half of what these contestants are doing is all "method acting" for the cameras. Sometimes Nikki can't keep a straight face when she nitpicks in her PI sessions. All these folks wanted to be on Bachelor Pad and it got cancelled!

Sooo...

Clare was not on the doggie date with Victoria. Yet it is possible she could do a Victoria. So far she just cried about Juan not giving her attention behind a closed door with Renee... and making some acidic PIs about you-know-who.

Nikki had a TON of commentary about Victoria on the doggie date... and the cameras stayed focused on her at all times when she was talking. It could be foreshadowing to a moment that does not involve booze but just anger of some sort. What could Nikki POSSIBLY get angry about? Who knows? She is absolutely certain she is the frontrunner since she saw Camilla, feels she has the best connection with him and Clare must learn that some of her "territory" just might not be hers. Just like Ben Flajnik on Ashley's season, who had quite a few lovely F-bombs in Fiji that didn't make the cut since he had to be "steam-cleaned" for the next lead role. Something tells me neither Nikki nor Clare are being "steam cleaned" for 'ette status.

Now... don't get me wrong. I am not accusing Nikki of anything. After all, she may spend the rest of the season behaving like Shirley Temple. Clare may be the one spitting out spicy octopus tentacles. Anything is possible with this silly show!

Let us just hope Juan doesn't decide to Be As Fair As Possible and discuss Ocean Romp with anybody besides Little Camilla... or we will never hear the end of it.

[Jeepers]

Those could easily have been done on the day after her HTD .. Same day as the RC

[clueless]

Thank you iamreal2u for answering my question.

[Mirzam]

Those could easily have been done on the day after her HTD .. Same day as the RC

Exactly.

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