Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #2

[Aunties_Love]

I am sorry, but I do see a bracelet on her arm.  That pic is so foggy, can't say for sure.

Well, I can clearly see it isn't the Venezuela bracelet. But if you feel you have to see it at all costs, go ahead, be my guest.

wow.

[Litta123]

Just a question, what was she saying in that PI where she's wearing the bracelet?  I honestly believe that was said after filming ended and if so, she's still wearing the bracelet.  That to me means that the bracelet is still valued, hense, she really could be the F1.

She was talking about the Seoul group date.

ETA: so was Renee with the same background.

Actually this cap was taken from an episode 3 PI...right after Juan and Sharleen were kissing at the pool. It's likely she wore it in several PIs.

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[Mirzam]

Just a question, what was she saying in that PI where she's wearing the bracelet?  I honestly believe that was said after filming ended and if so, she's still wearing the bracelet.  That to me means that the bracelet is still valued, hense, she really could be the F1.

She was talking about the Seoul group date.

ETA: so was Renee with the same background.

Actually this cap was taken from an episode 3 PI...right after Juan and Sharleen were kissing at the pool. It's likely she wore it in several PIs.

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There was a PI where she was talking about the Seoul date where she put her arm in the air and you could see the bracelet, so I guess they covered several topics in one sitting.

[Aunties_Love]

Just a question, what was she saying in that PI where she's wearing the bracelet?  I honestly believe that was said after filming ended and if so, she's still wearing the bracelet.  That to me means that the bracelet is still valued, hense, she really could be the F1.

She was talking about the Seoul group date.

ETA: so was Renee with the same background.

Actually this cap was taken from an episode 3 PI...right after Juan and Sharleen were kissing at the pool. It's likely she wore it in several PIs.

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So Litta, do you think this was done at the mansion for post season itm's/fillers? They would bring some of the women back for fillers and if that is the case, she was still wearing it and being extremely happy in those caps AFTER the season ended.

[JBF]

Litta123, is it possible to screencap Andi's PI here? She is "supposedly" talking about Victoria, but not mentioning her by name... making me think she is discussing somebody other than Victoria.

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[Mirzam]

Litta123, is it possible to screencap Andi's PI here? She is "supposedly" talking about Victoria, but not mentioning her by name... making me think she is discussing somebody other than Victoria.

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I really think she is talking about Victoria because she says, "in her current condition". I don't remember anyone else getting as wasted as Victoria did.

[clueless]

So Clare hasn't been seen wearing the bracelet prior to the HTD but wearing it in a PI prior to that? That would explain why she didn't have the bracelet on when she first met JP on the HTD but was wearing it later as it was really given to her on the HTD. (Have patience with me everyone I am clueless you know).

[Litta123]

So would it makes sense that Renee's PIs would have been filmed during the time Juan Pablo went on the HTD with Clare, Nikki, and Andi? Is that what you're suggesting for those "time" questionable PIs? Just trying to get clarity on your thinking.

Let me stated it a different way, when would Renee's PI (with the same background with as Clare's with the bracelet) be filmed? Before or after Renee's HTD...or before or after the F4 RC?

Hopefully, my question is making sense...

All I am saying is those PIs were likely filmed in Miami. I can't say whether it was before or after Renee's HTD.

Thanks, Mirzam. The reason for my question is that Renee is considerably tan in her PI shots compared to how she appears in the released HTD caps from ABC. I know there are varying opinions on the reliability for tans, etc. so I'm not going to argue it. It is, however, a reason why I tend to think those PIs were made post filming in LA. I respect the fact that you hold a different position...so as far as I'm concerned we don't need to debate it.

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Aunties_love, I saw your question upthread. Yes, that is my working theory...that these PIs were filmed in LA post finale. I respect that there are those who disagree...I'm simply offering up my thoughts. So, yes, if those are taken in LA post filming, I take it as a sign that Clare would be F1. I can't prove it so I don't consider it something I want to debate, but merely want to share with the board to consider it as an option.

[iamreal2u]

Clueless, Juan gave a bracelet to both Clare and Renee. Clare wore hers in a PI. The debate is whether PI was filmed after the show which would point to Clare being F!. Juan was also seen after the show wearing the same type of bracelet.

[JBF]

Litta123, is it possible to screencap Andi's PI here? She is "supposedly" talking about Victoria, but not mentioning her by name... making me think she is discussing somebody other than Victoria.

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I really think she is talking about Victoria because she says, "in her current condition". I don't remember anyone else getting as wasted as Victoria did.

Not yet... LOL! And "condition" might just be "crazy" like Clare and Nikki have BOTH been accused of. No telling WHAT screencaps are being withheld.

Yeah... it may just be a stock bedroom suite that all top 3-4 contestants use to discuss old stories in the season. It just seemed strange that she wasn't mentioning Victoria by name... but that is just silly me checking each stone is uncovered.

[Litta123]

Litta123, is it possible to screencap Andi's PI here? She is "supposedly" talking about Victoria, but not mentioning her by name... making me think she is discussing somebody other than Victoria.

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Here you go JBF...who do you propose Andi is taking about? Btw, there are several PIs being taken from this spot in all sorts of clothes. Do you think all of them are related to St. Lucia events...or could they be time travel PIs to fill out the story?

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[Aunties_Love]

So would it makes sense that Renee's PIs would have been filmed during the time Juan Pablo went on the HTD with Clare, Nikki, and Andi? Is that what you're suggesting for those "time" questionable PIs? Just trying to get clarity on your thinking.

Let me stated it a different way, when would Renee's PI (with the same background with as Clare's with the bracelet) be filmed? Before or after Renee's HTD...or before or after the F4 RC?

Hopefully, my question is making sense...

All I am saying is those PIs were likely filmed in Miami. I can't say whether it was before or after Renee's HTD.

Thanks, Mirzam. The reason for my question is that Renee is considerably tan in her PI shots compared to how she appears in the released HTD caps from ABC. I know there are varying opinions on the reliability for tans, etc. so I'm not going to argue it. It is, however, a reason why I tend to think those PIs were made post filming in LA. I respect the fact that you hold a different position...so as far as I'm concerned we don't need to debate it.

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Aunties_love, I saw your question upthread. Yes, that is my working theory...that these PIs were filmed in LA post finale. I respect that there are those who disagree...I'm simply offering up my thoughts. So, yes, if those are taken in LA post filming, I take it as a sign that Clare would be F1. I can't prove it so I don't consider it something I want to debate, but merely want to share with the board to consider it as an option.

Thanks for clarifying that. I hold the same opinion that Clare is F1 for a few reasons. I don't want to debate it either, but I also would like my opinion to be respected by all. Thanks again Litta for sharing what you are finding.   

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