Re: *No Spoilers* The Bachelor 18 Screencap discussions- thread #2

[nd4reality]

So, I know this seems like I'm   , but I've looked at a the pics online for Juan's suite in NZ -- the Hilton Lake Taupo Hotel. (link --> Hilton LT) None of the pics online have anything that would match Clare's background. I looked at pics where the girls stayed -- the Huka Lodge (link --> Huka Lodge) None of the pics come close to matching the background in Clare's cap.

There is nothing like this in the mansion. If this is just an ordinary PI filmed on St. Lucia, why not have Clare give it in the same room that both Andi and Nikki have done traveling PI's in St. Lucia? More and more I'm thinking this is a post-FRC PI filmed in the days that Clare and Juan get to stay together. If it's just her "ordinary" FS room, why have her do a time travel shot there? In the cap she discusses the "apology" that Juan Pablo gave her regarding their Vietnam situation (see video below -- 2:04 mark). It doesn't make sense to me that she would do a time travel PI with such an exotic background.

This is my last word on this, but I think it's just more evidence that Clare is F1.

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I'm confused. Why do you think this is a time travel PI ? She is wearing the same top, same necklass and same earrings as she did on that date. There is nothing (to me at least) to indicate that this was a setup at another time.

It is entirely possible that the PI was filmed in another room of the same hotel at the same time which was staged with that golden crappy thing in the corner.

[Guest]

So, I know this seems like I'm   , but I've looked at a the pics online for Juan's suite in NZ -- the Hilton Lake Taupo Hotel. (link --> Hilton LT) None of the pics online have anything that would match Clare's background. I looked at pics where the girls stayed -- the Huka Lodge (link --> Huka Lodge) None of the pics come close to matching the background in Clare's cap.

There is nothing like this in the mansion. If this is just an ordinary PI filmed on St. Lucia, why not have Clare give it in the same room that both Andi and Nikki have done traveling PI's in St. Lucia? More and more I'm thinking this is a post-FRC PI filmed in the days that Clare and Juan get to stay together. If it's just her "ordinary" FS room, why have her do a time travel shot there? In the cap she discusses the "apology" that Juan Pablo gave her regarding their Vietnam situation (see video below -- 2:04 mark). It doesn't make sense to me that she would do a time travel PI with such an exotic background.

This is my last word on this, but I think it's just more evidence that Clare is F1.

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ditto with you, Litta.   . i also think this is their honeymoon suite (gee..she is beaming here!..LOL). i guess great minds look-alike  :giggle: 

[JBF]

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We are all going to see things differently here... depending on which one you are "rooting for".

With Nikki and Andi, he looks very relaxed. They look a trifle nervous, with Nikki playing with her hair. Chris Harrison finds the scene humorous.

Clare, of course, is beaming next to her man despite all of the "allergy" blubbering. Juan is doing that eye rub "thang", hoping the others don't notice how gobbily gook he is. He can't even look at her.

[Litta123]

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litta123 - another question to you and the others...

Do we have any ladies who are not in the F4 filmed in front of this screen ? If yes then perhaps the F4 and those ladies were called to LA post-filming.

There is no evidence that these PIs were filmed at the mansion in front of this screen like we had plenty of very tanned PIs from Chris and even Drew which were assumed to be done in LA.
If no then the probability of this screen being in Miami is very high. Therefore the PIs could have been filmed both times the ladies were in LA - but most likely prior to the F4 RC.
The screen did not travel with them anywhere - it stayed put in Miami.
JMO.

No, nd, only the F4. I've found no other ladies filmed with this screen (see below cap 1) in this particular arrangement with sofa, flowers, and pillow. Lucy was filmed at the mansion in front of this screen, but her cap looks nothing like this. I also have Clare like this...same screen, but different flower arrangement (see below cap 2). FYI, Clare is discussing NZ events here. I thought I saw Nikki with a similar background as this, but I cannot find her cap.

Cap 1
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Cap 2
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[Guest]

So, I know this seems like I'm   , but I've looked at a the pics online for Juan's suite in NZ -- the Hilton Lake Taupo Hotel. (link --> Hilton LT) None of the pics online have anything that would match Clare's background. I looked at pics where the girls stayed -- the Huka Lodge (link --> Huka Lodge) None of the pics come close to matching the background in Clare's cap.

There is nothing like this in the mansion. If this is just an ordinary PI filmed on St. Lucia, why not have Clare give it in the same room that both Andi and Nikki have done traveling PI's in St. Lucia? More and more I'm thinking this is a post-FRC PI filmed in the days that Clare and Juan get to stay together. If it's just her "ordinary" FS room, why have her do a time travel shot there? In the cap she discusses the "apology" that Juan Pablo gave her regarding their Vietnam situation (see video below -- 2:04 mark). It doesn't make sense to me that she would do a time travel PI with such an exotic background.

This is my last word on this, but I think it's just more evidence that Clare is F1.

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I'm confused. Why do you think this is a time travel PI ? She is wearing the same top, same necklass and same earrings as she did on that date. There is nothing (to me at least) to indicate that this was a setup at another time.

It is entirely possible that the PI was filmed in another room of the same hotel at the same time which was staged with that golden crappy thing in the corner.

im not Litta but if i could throw in my reasoning :

take note on 0:25 and 0 :57



They Clearly set the ITM-setting for Juan in this suite where he was staying--note the screen. Why bother to set another ITM-setting for Clare??.

[Litta123]

So, I know this seems like I'm   , but I've looked at a the pics online for Juan's suite in NZ -- the Hilton Lake Taupo Hotel. (link --> Hilton LT) None of the pics online have anything that would match Clare's background. I looked at pics where the girls stayed -- the Huka Lodge (link --> Huka Lodge) None of the pics come close to matching the background in Clare's cap.

There is nothing like this in the mansion. If this is just an ordinary PI filmed on St. Lucia, why not have Clare give it in the same room that both Andi and Nikki have done traveling PI's in St. Lucia? More and more I'm thinking this is a post-FRC PI filmed in the days that Clare and Juan get to stay together. If it's just her "ordinary" FS room, why have her do a time travel shot there? In the cap she discusses the "apology" that Juan Pablo gave her regarding their Vietnam situation (see video below -- 2:04 mark). It doesn't make sense to me that she would do a time travel PI with such an exotic background.

This is my last word on this, but I think it's just more evidence that Clare is F1.

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I'm confused. Why do you think this is a time travel PI ? She is wearing the same top, same necklass and same earrings as she did on that date. There is nothing (to me at least) to indicate that this was a setup at another time.

It is entirely possible that the PI was filmed in another room of the same hotel at the same time which was staged with that golden crappy thing in the corner.

Because, nd, if you look through all the photos at the Hilton Lake Taupo, nothing closely resembles the screen cap. There is nothing in their decor that fits it. The stonework is completely out of place with the stonework at the Hilton.

The stone/brick work shelf the pot sits on behind Clare looks curved...similar to the curves of the edge of a hot tub. There are many hot tubs like this at Jade Mountain in St. Lucia. I haven't been able to find the gold stonework on TripAdvisor so I'm not saying it is at Jade Mountain...but it fits the style of the island. People don't have to believe my position...that's okay...I was only sharing my belief based on not being able to reconcile this background to anything in NZ.

[nd4reality]

They often have ITMs for the contestants which are not in the same place and time (sometimes done after the date) as the lead.
Besides this date had 2 parts in 2 different locations. Contestants always film ITMs after the date is over. I know Ali had done so after her 1o1 on jakes season - different from where Jake did ITMs. Similarly other seasons.
So this PI could have been shot in a room at the location the girls stayed at and not where the date took place.

I don't see any proof that this particular PI is a time travel PI and done after the season = no evidence.

All I was asking for is actual proof that the ITMs that you guys are claiming as post-filming. For example - Emily had a bunch where her hair was completely different as during filming. Same with Ashley H. Tans etc.

[julychild]

So, I know this seems like I'm   , but I've looked at a the pics online for Juan's suite in NZ -- the Hilton Lake Taupo Hotel. (link --> Hilton LT) None of the pics online have anything that would match Clare's background. I looked at pics where the girls stayed -- the Huka Lodge (link --> Huka Lodge) None of the pics come close to matching the background in Clare's cap.

There is nothing like this in the mansion. If this is just an ordinary PI filmed on St. Lucia, why not have Clare give it in the same room that both Andi and Nikki have done traveling PI's in St. Lucia? More and more I'm thinking this is a post-FRC PI filmed in the days that Clare and Juan get to stay together. If it's just her "ordinary" FS room, why have her do a time travel shot there? In the cap she discusses the "apology" that Juan Pablo gave her regarding their Vietnam situation (see video below -- 2:04 mark). It doesn't make sense to me that she would do a time travel PI with such an exotic background.

This is my last word on this, but I think it's just more evidence that Clare is F1.

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I'm confused. Why do you think this is a time travel PI ? She is wearing the same top, same necklass and same earrings as she did on that date. There is nothing (to me at least) to indicate that this was a setup at another time.

It is entirely possible that the PI was filmed in another room of the same hotel at the same time which was staged with that golden crappy thing in the corner.

ND, the location of this PI is a mystery to me as well, but just to clarify that they sometimes make the casts put on the same clothes, jewelry and such as they wore on the date to film some filler PI's. An example is the SC of Clare below. She is talking about the date in NZ, presumably in real time, yet we can clearly see that her hair is different. Plus she has on earrings in the PI but wore none on the date. The white vest she is wearing underneath that purple jacket is also different from what she actually wore in NZ, if you watch the video. She also made another PI wearing the orange dress from Vietnam in that same room. In short, she recorded three PI's with that background, same hair, makeup, same clothes as Vietnam and NZ, and in all three she was talking about the swimming in the ocean issue.


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[jlccaz]

The couples aren't filmed when they stay on or like Emily and jef do side trip after the finale. Camera crew are released and fly home. Only a few handlers remain behind and maybe some big wigs.

Post finale LA taping is possibility but far from standard.

I'm open minded but not persuaded.

They lay out at the mansion for weeks at the beginning and tan also. Tans are over rated as a clue.

[Litta123]

They often have ITMs for the contestants which are not in the same place and time (sometimes done after the date) as the lead.
Besides this date had 2 parts in 2 different locations. Contestants always film ITMs after the date is over. I know Ali had done so after her 1o1 on jakes season - different from where Jake did ITMs. Similarly other seasons.
So this PI could have been shot in a room at the location the girls stayed at and not where the date took place.

I don't see any proof that this particular PI is a time travel PI and done after the season = no evidence.

All I was asking for is actual proof that the ITMs that you guys are claiming as post-filming. For example - Emily had a bunch where her hair was completely different as during filming. Same with Ashley H. Tans etc.

Check out the pics online for Huka Lodge (where the girls stayed). Nothing comes close to this background -- look all over the grounds. If you can find something that matches this or at least shows a similar style with brickwork, please point it out because I can't see it. To me a property of this quality has a style of decor that runs consistent throughout the property. Again, to my eye, Clare's background doesn't fit the decor. Like I said, I don't want to   , but that's how I'm seeing it. If you disagree, that's fine...no harm, no foul.

Link --> Huka Lodge

[nd4reality]

Thats ok - you guys go for analyzing all these time travel PIs. Constantly having to look at them and their subject has me checking out.

[Mirzam]

Bringing this over, sorry its poor quality I took it off my tv with my phone.

F4 lineup

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Clare, Nikki, Andi and Renee

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