Episode 9 -- Fantasy Dates -- airs TUESDAY February 25

pbmax wrote:

chloep wrote:^^ How does an moderated ABC message board with about only 30 regular commentators translate to "most viewers"?   :hidingchair 

Andi will be a fine lead. Obviously her guys are not gonna be like JP. She wants a strong, mature, well spoken and intellectual man.

You think she's gonna get it or guys dropping out on her.

Exactly. What she wants and what she gets are not necessarily congruent. If I were her, I'd be worried about what producers might be cooking up for next season in order to top her performance last night.

I thought the "default" vs. "barely" thing was really about her comment, that she wanted so badly to fall in love. To me it seemed that for JPG bringing her anyway, when he was concerned that she didn't really want him but just to fall in love showed that he really liked her.

She saw it as an insult and he saw it as a compliment that he brought her even though he was concerned. He also said she was in his final 3 from week two. She blew that off, but since most thing Sharleen was final 3 as well, that means that either Nikki or Clare wouldn't have been.

I think Andi was mad, she took it too far and nothing short of him saying he was totally wrong and sorry would make her feel better.

I like Andi, I will watch her season, but in this argument I was totally with JPG. If you aren't happy say something or leave. Don't pretend then come back and blame the other person.

[quote="chloep"]^^ How does an moderated ABC message board with about only 30 regular commentators translate to "most viewers"?   :hidingchair 

Andi will be a fine lead. Obviously her guys are not gonna be like JP. She wants a strong, mature, well spoken and intellectual man.[/quote]
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Andi may be a fine lead ON CAMERA. She obviously has a problem because as pretty and accomplished as she is, she doesn't have a man. I find that very odd. Atlanta is  full of quality men. Good women with great careers don't stay single long, unless it's their choosing.

Women like her need a pushover. No man in his right mind will put up with a woman who will eat him for breakfast, then mop the floor with him, and when done throw him in the trash. Any man who is worth anything will not last with a beotchy woman.

I don't care for JP, but Andi made me feel very uncomfortable, and gave women a bad name of being BEOTCHY. She harped on his EzzOK so much that I wanted to hurl. That made me feel sorry for him, no matter what kind of jerk he may be. She came across like the biggest douche, evah.
You may find some men who will see her actions as though she's a strong woman, but MOST will run.

marloon wrote:

pbmax wrote:

chloep wrote:^^ How does an moderated ABC message board with about only 30 regular commentators translate to "most viewers"?   :hidingchair 

Andi will be a fine lead. Obviously her guys are not gonna be like JP. She wants a strong, mature, well spoken and intellectual man.

You think she's gonna get it or guys dropping out on her.

Exactly. What she wants and what she gets are not necessarily congruent.  If I were her, I'd be worried about what producers might be cooking up for next season in order to top her performance last night.

I would be very concerned if I were Andi also.  She might want to use some of them lawyering skills to get out of her next contract.  Unless, of course, she was in it all along to become the lead.  At this point, that seems more likely than not.

Chacharo wrote:

marloon wrote:

pbmax wrote:

chloep wrote:^^ How does an moderated ABC message board with about only 30 regular commentators translate to "most viewers"?   :hidingchair 

Andi will be a fine lead. Obviously her guys are not gonna be like JP. She wants a strong, mature, well spoken and intellectual man.

You think she's gonna get it or guys dropping out on her.

Exactly. What she wants and what she gets are not necessarily congruent.  If I were her, I'd be worried about what producers might be cooking up for next season in order to top her performance last night.

I would be very concerned if I were Andi also.  She might want to use some of them lawyering skills to get out of her next contract.  Unless, of course, she was in it all along to become the lead.  At this point, that seems more likely than not.

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Word.
Now the producers know how controlling and bitchy Andi really is, so I wouldn't be surprised one bit if they up the ante during her season. Payback is a bitch.  

Ariela wrote:Andi made me feel very uncomfortable, and gave women a bad name of being BEOTCHY.

I don't see where wanting someone to be interested in your view on life, parenting, religion, and philosophy is bitchy??? I agree that she went too far in insisting that JP somehow admit that he was wrong, cuz that just wasn't going to happen. still, her base point that JP should be interested in what makes Andi tick is dead on.

Women like her need a pushover.

WOW!   I negotiate contracts and supervise construction for a living and I certainly don't walk away from confrontation. Strong women neither need or want pushover men. To suggest that they (we) do is just plain offensive.

The thing that has really turned me off Andi is the tweets making fun of JP's accent.  So classless rude and unneeded.  Sharleen found the only thing she liked about JP was the physical and that she wasn't interested otherwise, so she left.  But she left classy.  Sure maybe JP was insensitive to Andi's feelings, but take the high road.

Making fun of his accent as your parting shot on twitter is just low and in poor taste.  Many wonderful people aren't Americans with English as their first language!!  You knew he was from another country coming in.

relaxing wrote:The thing that has really turned me off Andi is the tweets making fun of JP's accent.  So classless rude and unneeded.  Sharleen found the only thing she liked about JP was the physical and that she wasn't interested otherwise, so she left.  But she left classy.  Sure maybe JP was insensitive to Andi's feelings, but take the high road.

Making fun of his accent as your parting shot on twitter is just low and in poor taste.  Many wonderful people aren't Americans with English as their first language!!  You knew he was from another country coming in.

Yes! I agree!

eirekay wrote:

Ariela wrote:Andi made me feel very uncomfortable, and gave women a bad name of being BEOTCHY.

I don't see where wanting someone to be interested in your view on life, parenting, religion, and philosophy is bitchy??? I agree that she went too far in insisting that JP somehow admit that he was wrong, cuz that just wasn't going to happen.  still, her base point that JP should be interested in what makes Andi tick is dead on.

Women like her need a pushover.

 

WOW!   I negotiate contracts and supervise construction for a living and I certainly don't walk away from confrontation.  Strong women neither need or want pushover men. To suggest that they (we) do is just plain offensive.

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1) So that's the part you saw as bitchy?....and you negotiate contracts? Evidently, you and I have a communication problem, just like Andi & JP.
The harping about "EEEZOK" being annoying and not ok is the part that made Andi look bad. We don't know what happened in the FS. We only have her story, but IF she's hammering at his lack of vocabulary, and ESL, that's makes her look petty and not very attractive. It makes me question whether the rest that happened in the FS has much validity. I don't even care for JP.

2) There are strong women (who know who they are and treat all with respect, without a chip on their shoulders), and there are bitchy women, who make everything all about them, and if they don't get it from the men, they emasculate them. If you are offended by my opinion EEZOK.

Ariela wrote:If you are offended by my opinion EEZOK.

So sorry - I misunderstood what you felt was bitchy, but, much like JP, I misspoke - I don't know you well enough to be offended by you.

Ariela wrote:
1) So that's the part you saw as bitchy?....and you negotiate contracts? Evidently, you and I have a communication problem, just like Andi & JP.
The harping about "EEEZOK" being annoying and not ok is the part that made Andi look bad. We don't know what happened in the FS. We only have her story, but IF she's hammering at his lack of vocabulary, and ESL, that's makes her look petty and not very attractive. It makes me question whether the rest that happened in the FS has much validity. I don't even care for JP.

2) There are strong women (who know who they are and treat all with respect, without a chip on their shoulders), and there are bitchy women, who make everything all about them, and if they don't get it from the men, they emasculate them.  If you are offended by my opinion EEZOK.

Ariela, your post EEZOK! 

eirekay wrote:

Ariela wrote:If you are offended by my opinion EEZOK.

So sorry - I misunderstood what you felt was bitchy, but, much like JP, I misspoke - I don't know you well enough to be offended by you.

Heh  :shocked!: