Episode 7 -- Miami -- airs Feb 17

eversotrue wrote:I understand that the girls are open for scrutiny...but again does that make it right? Make it right to call them names or think of their lives as depressing?

Either way, I honestly dont see it lasting for JP and whoever he chooses. He needs to just find a spanish speaking woman in Miami and be done with it.

In everyday life, we talk and comment about people. Everybody has an opinion and it's fair game to express it about these girls who go on a TV show... I don't see why it wouldn't be right to judge their behavior on screen.

As for Juan Pablo, it's not because he speaks Spanish that he has to find a wife who also speaks Spanish... That would be so limitative. Love doesn't work like that...

Like I said, I understand. But it's still silly to judge them (and people in general) on something we dont even truly know about/see. I am guilty of doing so but I try to put myself in said people's situations.

Well, it's better if he does find a spanish speaking woman who he can actually conversate with and vice versa..otherwise he should take some english classes or something. Although, I think this goes way farther then just grammar and actually has to do with his intellet in general.

eversotrue wrote:That's not what im talking about, roses. Im talking about judging these girls characters/personalities. The only people who have the right to judge them is them. Period. As well as people who know them very well. That is it. Although, unrealistic...it's true.

I have always thought when you choose to go on reality TV, you give people the right to make fun of you and judge you. If you don't want that then don't go on TV. Just my opinion.

stuckinsc wrote:

eversotrue wrote:That's not what im talking about, roses. Im talking about judging these girls characters/personalities. The only people who have the right to judge them is them. Period. As well as people who know them very well. That is it. Although, unrealistic...it's true.

I have always thought when you choose to go on reality TV, you give people the right to make fun of you and judge you.  If you don't want that then don't go on TV.  Just my opinion.

Exactly. It's the name of the game.

Mommyof1 wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

eversotrue wrote:That's not what im talking about, roses. Im talking about judging these girls characters/personalities. The only people who have the right to judge them is them. Period. As well as people who know them very well. That is it. Although, unrealistic...it's true.

I have always thought when you choose to go on reality TV, you give people the right to make fun of you and judge you.  If you don't want that then don't go on TV.  Just my opinion.

Exactly.  It's the name of the game.  

I look at it as a TV show with a cast of characters. If this was a scripted show, I would be making comments about what the characters were doing and how they were acting. This is no different...except they are real people who are being themselves...with some encouragement and editing by producers. They know...or should know by now, seeing that the show has been on for over 10 years and I can't keep up with how many seasons...what to expect. They choose to go on for their own reasons and producers pick them for certain reasons. Their own true selves usually come out since it's hard to fake who you are the longer you stay. No matter how they are edited, for the most part, most of them seem OK with the way things worked out and don't seem to suffer as a consequence. And as Kiptyn made clear...they can't make something, if you don't give them anything.

The season's preview had some of the fight with Clare and Nikki:

Nikki sitting on the bed and Clare at the door:

Clare: When it is something personal to you, you just get up and walk away
Nikki : that has nothing to do with it at all….
Clare: Would you please don't cut me off. I am not ok with being disrespected like that..
Nikki: Clare I have nothing to say to you. You're crazy

Me: you be the judge.. I think Nikki left because she did not want to argue but Clare followed. IMO

http://insidetv.ew.com/2014/01/03/bachelor-supertease-juan-pablo/

Read my last post, folks. That's all I have to say on the matter. LOL.

I do agree that once you allow yourself to be a public figure that comes with scrutiny and it's to be expected. The that that I dont agree with is how far that scrutiny can go and how tastless and tacky people get with it.

There seems to be a bit of a double standard about "judging" .. Uummm .. Don't judge the gals but ok to judge the Bach. Okaaaaay

That's NOT what im saying in regards to that. Ive seen people call these girls "whores" and which harm upon them (not necesarily here). THAT's taking it too far and what im trying to say when it comes to being tasteless and tacky. Scrutiny is to be expected, like I said but when it gets to that point....it's uncalled for.

Sprite wrote:

Mommyof1 wrote:

stuckinsc wrote:

eversotrue wrote:That's not what im talking about, roses. Im talking about judging these girls characters/personalities. The only people who have the right to judge them is them. Period. As well as people who know them very well. That is it. Although, unrealistic...it's true.

I have always thought when you choose to go on reality TV, you give people the right to make fun of you and judge you.  If you don't want that then don't go on TV.  Just my opinion.

Exactly.  It's the name of the game.  

I look at it as a TV show with a cast of characters. If this was a scripted show, I would be making comments about what the characters were doing and how they were acting. This is no different...except they are real people who are being themselves...with some encouragement and editing by producers. They know...or should know by now, seeing that the show has been on for over 10 years and I can't keep up with how many seasons...what to expect. They choose to go on for their own reasons and producers pick them for certain reasons. Their own true selves usually come out since it's hard to fake who you are the longer you stay. No matter how they are edited, for the most part, most of them seem OK with the way things worked out and don't seem to suffer as a consequence. And as Kiptyn made clear...they can't make something, if you don't give them anything.

Just as Victoria said, "Life is about straddling people and things."  :shocked!:  

tvgrapevine sneak peek is up…..this preview is back to showing/talking about Nikki's negativity. (Chelsie speaks) I just don't understand if spoilers are correct that JP will go with someone that is so openly hates to dance…..what is editing trying to show us? This preview really shows to me Nikki's personality with the girls and then it immediately shows her with JP saying I am so excited….is editing trying to show what the girls (Clare, Elise, Chelsie etc.) are saying about Nikki….and if so why?

4health wrote:tvgrapevine sneak peek is up…..this preview is back to showing/talking about Nikki's negativity. (Chelsie speaks)  I just don't understand if spoilers are correct that JP will go with someone that is so openly hates to dance…..what is editing trying to show us?  This preview really shows to me Nikki's personality with the girls and then it immediately shows her with JP saying I am so excited….is editing trying to show what the girls (Clare, Elise, Chelsie etc.) are saying about Nikki….and if so why?

Link, please?

NM.  I found it.