Episode 7 -- Miami -- airs Feb 17

4health, I try to be open-minded and not to judge because I can only imagine how taxing this all is and I try to put myself in others mindset and way of life through different scenarios. I just think it's silly and pathetic to try to decipher these girls on a TV SHOW. It's TV! I mean...c'mon! Enough said.

The photos of Nikki's date are of Juan and her outside and she's wearing that blue floral pancho looking thing.

eversotrue wrote:There ARE photos of that, actually Mommyof1.

I don't believe I have seen them yet.

eversotrue wrote:4health, I try to be open-minded and not to judge because I understand and I try to put myself in others mindset and way of life through different scenarios. I just think it's silly and pathetic to try to decipher these girls on a TV SHOW. It's TV! I mean...c'mon!

But that is the fun of it, trying to decipher what is happening in the screencaps, and sleuth them.

That's not what im talking about, roses. Im talking about judging these girls characters/personalities. The only people who have the right to judge them is them. Period. As well as people who know them very well. That is it. Although, unrealistic...it's true.

eversotrue wrote:That's not what im talking about, roses. Im talking about judging these girls characters/personalities. The only people who have the right to judge them is them. Period. As well as people who know them very well. That is it. Although, unrealistic...it's true.

I get that. I always try to say, in my opinion, or "I think" when I talk about Juan Pablo, or the contestants, because we truly don't know them. Our only knowledge of them is from a highly edited TV show. I don't dislike any of them, and I don't think either Nikki, or Clare are as bad as many have made them out to be, and it should be a fun next couple of weeks.

eversotrue wrote:That's not what im talking about, roses. Im talking about judging these girls characters/personalities. The only people who have the right to judge them is them. Period. As well as people who know them very well. That is it. Although, unrealistic...it's true.

They go on a reality tv show that leaves them open to people critiquing their actions. Everyone here knows that we're not seeing them in real life so comments are about their persona and I think that's perfectly fair. Me I don't like Clare. She's always rubbed me the wrong way. I also don't believe she's the type of person who does well in this environment and I think we'll see that in Miami.

albean99 wrote:

eversotrue wrote:That's not what im talking about, roses. Im talking about judging these girls characters/personalities. The only people who have the right to judge them is them. Period. As well as people who know them very well. That is it. Although, unrealistic...it's true.

They go on a reality tv show that leaves them open to people critiquing their actions. Everyone here knows that we're not seeing them in real life so comments are about their persona and I think that's perfectly fair. Me I don't like Clare. She's always rubbed me the wrong way. I also don't believe she's the type of person who does well in this environment and I think we'll see that in Miami.

I liked Clare on her and Juan's one on one date. Since then my opinion of her has steadily gone downhill. The moment for me that totally rubbed me the wrong way, is when she played the victim after Juan Pablo told her he regretted going into the ocean with her. She strikes me as the type that is used to getting her way, and clearly knows what to do to get her way too.

For you Mommyof1: Pics of Nikki and JP's Miami date. Still not much to them, but it's something.

https://2img.net/h/i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/BachJuan/eppy7/pics08388.jpg
https://2img.net/h/i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/BachJuan/eppy7/pics08396.jpg
https://2img.net/h/i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/BachJuan/eppy7/pics08410.jpg
https://2img.net/h/i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/BachJuan/eppy7/pics08418.jpg
https://2img.net/h/i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/BachJuan/eppy7/pics08424.jpg

rosesrREd wrote:For you Mommyof1: Pics of Nikki and JP's Miami date. Still not much to them, but it's something.

https://2img.net/h/i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/BachJuan/eppy7/pics08388.jpg
https://2img.net/h/i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/BachJuan/eppy7/pics08396.jpg
https://2img.net/h/i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/BachJuan/eppy7/pics08410.jpg
https://2img.net/h/i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/BachJuan/eppy7/pics08418.jpg
https://2img.net/h/i35.photobucket.com/albums/d198/Dreamer_caps/BachJuan/eppy7/pics08424.jpg

Thank you, roses!

According to clare, it was not okay for Nikki to cut in on her time with JP because she already had a rose. Just maybe it was on Nikki's bucket list to spend as much time with him since she put her life on hold to go on the bachelor. Clare seems to justify everything she does and sees no wrong in herself. She had spent all that time with him on the group date, got the special 1on 1 in his pool, got the gd rose but still felt justified sneeking to his hotel for some bucket list crap.

I honestly wouldn't sit an dlisten to someone call me fake, i'd walk away like nikki did. clare has this sense of self-importance and that is not attractive. Girls are known to be different around ghys they like as opposed to around girls especially yhose competing for the same guy. Obviously nikki isnt friends oy chummy with all the girls and thats okay. I am yet to see her say nasty things about any of the girls. Yet to see her complain to JP about what he does with other girls. She just talks about how uncomfortable it has been for her. What she said about Kat was true as Kat was OTT on the dance group date.
I honestly dont care who he chooses since he is the one making the best choice for him. Time will soon tell if he did good or wrong.

I understand that the girls are open for scrutiny...but again does that make it right? Make it right to call them names or think of their lives as depressing?

Either way, I honestly dont see it lasting for JP and whoever he chooses. He needs to just find a spanish speaking woman in Miami and be done with it.